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Laura@notmy.com - 25 Feb 2006 20:22 GMT Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than they ought to be. Or is that what I'm looking for?
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Andrea2 - 25 Feb 2006 21:08 GMT >Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to >choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than >they ought to be. Or is that what I'm looking for? > >Thanks I don't know where you live but all almost all the avocados in the stores where I live, are hard as rocks. The ones that feel soft to me are rotten and have black streaks inside. I've tried getting the hard ones and ripening them at home, in paper bags, in plastic bags, in no bags; they always have black streaks in them when they get just a little soft.
I know there are a few, good, ripe ones, that are ready to eat, mixed in but I can't find them. I always buy them at one store where I know a worker, she picks them out for me. I've watched her and I'm convened it is a talent she was born with. If she isn't there, I don't buy avocados that day.
My advice is buy them from a vendor that is "avocado wise" and will pick out good ones for you.
Andrea2
Laura@notmy.com - 25 Feb 2006 21:20 GMT >>Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to >>choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Andrea2 Thanks, Andrea, for confirming my suspicion that the mushy ones weren't what I want. I live in Maryland. I guess this is a bad time of year to try and find avocados. Most of the ones in my local store are those little deep green ones. Summer time brings out the bigger lighter green ones. Which type do you prefer?
Andrea2 - 25 Feb 2006 22:13 GMT >>>Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to >>>choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >are those little deep green ones. Summer time brings out the bigger >lighter green ones. Which type do you prefer? Where I live they are available year round. They sell 2 types; the almost black rough-skinned Hass avocado and the smooth thin-skinned green Fuerte avocado. I only like the Hass avocado and will not buy the Fuerte.
Andrea2
Quentin Grady - 26 Feb 2006 02:27 GMT This post not CC'd by email On Sat, 25 Feb 2006 13:08:25 -0800, Andrea2 <andrea6192001nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>My advice is buy them from a vendor that is "avocado wise" and will >pick out good ones for you. > >Andrea2 G'day G'day Andrea2,
That is such good advice. At the Farmers' Markets here there are two avocado sellers. One sells on Saturday and the other on Sunday. We buy from 114 Avocados on a Sunday and the fruit is excellent and ripens without the brown patches. They love their avocados. The other crowd are nice people, truly nice people but they are thinking of selling their orchard.
Most of the avocados here are Hass. It is common world wide. To tell visually if it is ripe look for a mahogany skin. If it is black it is too late. The 114 avocados have there's classified. Eat now, 2-3 days, 4-5 days, 6-7 days. They are that good because they are highly experienced.
If you buy them from a roadside stall, NEVER squeeze them. No one ever handles the 114 avocados like that. If you buy them off a stall expect bruised brown splotches because people have squeezed.
The least offensive way to test is to touch the stem. If it gives slightly it is ripe. It just about falls out it is rotten. If it is firm it isn't ready. With practice you tell whether it suitable for salads or guacamole.
Sometimes the skill is simple ... if you are in the know.
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Ozgirl - 26 Feb 2006 03:37 GMT > The least offensive way to test is to touch the stem. If it gives > slightly it is ripe. It just about falls out it is rotten. If it is > firm it isn't ready. With practice you tell whether it suitable for > salads or guacamole. > > Sometimes the skill is simple ... if you are in the know. Strangely the same advice came from the other down underers. Must be something we are taught on our part of the globe that others aren't ;)
Laura@notmy.com - 26 Feb 2006 04:21 GMT >> The least offensive way to test is to touch the stem. If >it gives [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Must be something we are taught on our part of the globe >that others aren't ;) LOL...in these here parts a lot of people don't seem to know that guacamole is squashed avocado.(it's just something that comes magically from the kitchen at the local mexican place) And it seems that quite a few more don't know that the fruit is wonderful eaten without all the mashing and added spices. I love guacamole, but personally, if the fruit has that right blend of firm and creamy all at once, I'm in heaven slicing it up to eat with tomatoes and other nummy salad fare. I really just never knew how to select one because it is certainly something that never came to my mother's table.
Ozgirl - 26 Feb 2006 04:40 GMT > >> The least offensive way to test is to touch the stem. If > >it gives [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > nummy salad fare. I really just never knew how to select one because > it is certainly something that never came to my mother's table. Ditto. I didn't even know what an avocado was until I was well nto adulthood. One of my kids thought fries came off a tree ;)
Kurt - 26 Feb 2006 05:09 GMT > Ditto. I didn't even know what an avocado was until I was > well nto adulthood. One of my kids thought fries came off a > tree ;) You mean fries don't come off a tree? Damn that French nanny of mine!
As far as avocados, living in California I think it's a misdemeanor if you don't eat them. :) I buy them at the store a bit on the hard side and then give them a squeeze everyday until I feel they "give" a bit. That's when I know they're ready to eat. Now bananas are another story...they ripen so fast that they can be fine in the morning and all mushy by night. What's up with that?!
Best, Kurt
Ozgirl - 26 Feb 2006 05:37 GMT > > Ditto. I didn't even know what an avocado was until I was > > well nto adulthood. One of my kids thought fries came off a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > story...they ripen so fast that they can be fine in the morning and all > mushy by night. What's up with that?! They have been refrigerated before being sold. Many years ago you could look at a banana in it's skin and know exactly what you were going to get when it was peeled, not anymore. I am like some here with avocados. Eat them straight out of the skin with a spoon. Kiwi fruit I cut in half and squeeze the fruit out of the skin straight into my mouth ;) Mangos need to be eaten in the bath if you eat them correctly, lol.
Vicki Beausoleil - 27 Feb 2006 00:21 GMT >>>>The least offensive way to test is to touch the stem. > [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > well nto adulthood. One of my kids thought fries came off a > tree ;) About 30 years ago, they came out with an avocado chip dip. My dad bought it to try. My mother thought it was revolting, so my dad added milk and made soup out of it. I never knew what an avocado looked like until I was in my late teens and exotic fruits and veggies were speed shipped up here to the Great White North.
We ate well when I was growing up, but it was all local fare. Even blueberries were a luxury.
Anybody ever hear of a dragon fruit? Called a "pitahaya" in French. I tried a piece the other day. White flesh and full of tiny black seeds. Not much in the flavour department, and certainly not worth the price the store was charging.
I'm still waiting for a durian to show up in the store I work in (somehow I doubt it). ;-)
Vicki
Robert Miles - 27 Feb 2006 01:11 GMT [snip]
> I'm still waiting for a durian to show up in the store I work in > (somehow I doubt it). ;-) > > Vicki Watch the frozen food section in case it shows up frozen to control the smell.
Alan S - 27 Feb 2006 01:44 GMT >About 30 years ago, they came out with an avocado chip dip. My dad >bought it to try. My mother thought it was revolting, so my dad added [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Anybody ever hear of a dragon fruit? Called a "pitahaya" in French. I
>tried a piece the other day. White flesh and full of tiny black seeds. >Not much in the flavour department, and certainly not worth the price >the store was charging. > >I'm still waiting for a durian to show up in the store I work in >(somehow I doubt it). ;-) Your nose will let you know if they get some stocks in - probably from several blocks away:-)
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Janet Wilder - 26 Feb 2006 20:50 GMT > LOL...in these here parts a lot of people don't seem to know that > guacamole is squashed avocado.(it's just something that comes [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > nummy salad fare. I really just never knew how to select one because > it is certainly something that never came to my mother's table. In interior Mexico they serve guacamole as mashed avocado with chopped tomato, chopped sweet onion and some lime on the side. When I make it I use tomato, sweet onion, lime juice and salt and pepper. The flavor of a good avocado is to wonderful to spoil with hot spices. The guacamole should help cool the palate.
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Peter Bowditch - 26 Feb 2006 04:59 GMT Just had one for lunch.
Tiny amount of give when gently, that's GENTLY I say, pressed near the stalk. Could have done with a few more hours ripening but it would have been too late by dinnertime tomorrow.
Yum.
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John38 - 26 Feb 2006 08:38 GMT [testing for ripeness]
> The least offensive way to test is to touch the stem. If it gives > slightly it is ripe. It just about falls out it is rotten. If it is > firm it isn't ready. With practice you tell whether it suitable for > salads or guacamole. I've never seen avacados in the UK with a stem, but that I'd guess is the way they're shipped here.. so the only way is to *gently* squeeze the apex. Don't know if they're shipped to other northern latitudes in the same way, can anyone confirm?
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Ozgirl - 26 Feb 2006 10:31 GMT > [testing for ripeness] > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I've never seen avacados in the UK with a stem, Same here, but you can see where the stem was. That's the bit I have always been told to gently push into. If it doesn't give easily it is not ripe enough, if it gives a little it is ripe, if your finger goes inside the avocado it may be too ripe :) pretty foolproof method, lol.
Grandpa Chuck - 26 Feb 2006 03:32 GMT >My advice is buy them from a vendor that is "avocado wise" and will >pick out good ones for you. > >Andrea2 Pretty difficult to do in a supermarket where the people stocking the shelves don't know what half of the produce is if it isn't labeled for them.
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Alan S - 25 Feb 2006 22:10 GMT >Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to >choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than >they ought to be. Or is that what I'm looking for? > >Thanks Depends on the type. I always forget which is which - I'm not good on food names. One type stays green, the other with the dimpled skin (my local), turns purplish-black as it ripens.
Both should be bought a day or two before you need them, if possible, so that you can eat it as soon as it ripens. The best timing is the day it changes from a firm feel to the first sign of softness, and the little "plug" on the end where the stalk was will come out almost by itself.
If you need a ripe one bought today, mushier is bad - it will be over-ripe and probably have dark patches through the flesh. Definitely not firm, but just starting to be soft is best.
Like the test for steak - touch your forefinger with your thumb on the same hand and press on the ball of your thumb. That's too soft (extra rare for steak). Now put your thumb on your pinky and press on the ball - that's about right (overdone for steak).
I still get caught occasionally and have to throw one out - but I buy them cheap from local markets (the ones that didn't make the grade for the supermarket buyers) and accept the odd bad or lumpy one.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg
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Alan S - 26 Feb 2006 05:07 GMT <snip>
>Both should be bought a day or two before you need them, if >possible, so that you can eat it as soon as it ripens. I'll add this because no-one else mentioned it.
If you want to encourage ripening - leave them out of the fridge in a paper bag. Adding another fruit, like banana, to the bag seems to speed up the process for both.
If you want to delay ripening - leave them in the fridge. I sometimes buy five or six at a time at the weekend market and can set them up to ripen one a day by those techniques.
Avoid avocados with little knots or similar blemishes on the outer skin - we call them "bee-stings". Usually there will be small hard lumps under those spots when you peel them.
If you need to use a peeled ripe avocado, run a knife right around it down to the seed on the long axis, then twist the avocado halves slightly to halve it. Take the half without the seed and gently slide a large spoon between the skin and the flesh and it should seperate easily into a peeled half. Hit the seed with the blade of a knife just hard enough to stick in it without damaging the flesh, twist and remove the seed stuck to the knife. Then repeat the spoon process with the other half.
I often eat a half straight from the skin with a teaspoon, as a snack.
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Nicky - 26 Feb 2006 10:49 GMT > If you want to delay ripening - leave them in the fridge. I > sometimes buy five or six at a time at the weekend market > and can set them up to ripen one a day by those techniques. I do the opposite : ) I buy a pack of 4, and leave them in the fruit bowl until they're ripe. Then I hold them there for a day or two by putting them in the fridge. Assuming they make the journey across the kitchen : )
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Grandpa Chuck - 26 Feb 2006 16:37 GMT ><snip> >>Both should be bought a day or two before you need them, if >>possible, so that you can eat it as soon as it ripens. > >I'll add this because no-one else mentioned it. Oh yes I did, early on in the thread. But it is well worth repeating.
>If you want to encourage ripening - leave them out of the >fridge in a paper bag. > >Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. >d&e, metformin 2x500mg My only experience with avocados as a child were at my aunt's house. She would buy them when she could, which was pretty rare here in Iowa in the 40s and 50s. She would let them become almost mushy because the only way she served them was by spreading ripe avocado on bread and butter much as you would peanut butter. I don't remember being particularly fond of them, but it was pretty neat to eat something that color spread all over a piece of white Wonder bread. (Today we never have white bread in the house, not even before I became diabetic.)
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Today, February 26, 2006 It has been 1032 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."
Grandpa Chuck - 25 Feb 2006 22:22 GMT >Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to >choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than >they ought to be. Or is that what I'm looking for? > >Thanks Recently on television show a lady asked how to pick good avocados at the store. The person she was interviewing said to go for the black one since they have a better flavor than the green skin ones. He said if you squeeze them gently they should give just a little bit. He went on to say to not be afraid to buy the firm ones if you don't need to use it the same day. Put it in a paper bag and allow it to ripen to till they give only a little when squeezed. He went on to show how to cut them and get all of the avocado out of the skin without having to fight it. It was so simple that it was one of those, 'Why haven't I tried that before' things.
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The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Feb. 22, 2006 is 2,288. Americans wounded = 16,653 United Kingdom = 101 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000 - probably many more.
Today, February 25, 2006 It has been 1031 days since Bush declared, "Mission Accomplished in Iraq."
Peter Bowditch - 26 Feb 2006 00:00 GMT >Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to >choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than >they ought to be. Or is that what I'm looking for? > >Thanks Press gently with your thumb near the place where the stalk was. A good avocado should have just a little bit of movement. If it feels really soft it's past its time.
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Priscilla Ballou - 26 Feb 2006 00:13 GMT > >Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to > >choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > have just a little bit of movement. If it feels really soft it's past its > time. I've found it best to buy them green and let them ripen in my fruitbowl. I often buy a small green banana just for the ripening gas it gives off as it gets yellow. That helps the rest of my fruit to ripen, too.
Priscilla
John38 - 26 Feb 2006 08:33 GMT > Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to > choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than > they ought to be. Or is that what I'm looking for? It depends on when you want to eat them.
If they are for immediate eating, I press near the apex of the fruit, there should be a *little* 'give', but not soft.
If they are for eating later on in the week, I buy them rock hard. If they were bought rock hard and I want to ripen them a little quicker, they are placed in a fruit bowl with a couple of bananas. The bananas naturally emit a gas which is also a plant hormone (called ethylene) which accelerates ripening. This works for other fruit as well.
If you want to avoid black streaks or off colours in otherwise perfect avacado, add some lemon juice to the mashed avacado.
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Janet Wilder - 26 Feb 2006 20:47 GMT > Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to > choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than > they ought to be. Or is that what I'm looking for? The best way to buy avocados is to find tree-ripened ones. I'm lucky enough to live 6 miles from Mexico where I get them for $1.50 a kilo (3 large ones) In order to transport them back to the US, the seed must be removed. The Mexican vendors put a piece of jalapeno pepper inside the avocado to fill the void and prevent browning.
When not able to go across the border, I look for ones with a little "give" . If I can press them with my fingers and leave a dent, they are too soft. On the stem-end (where the scar is) you should be able to press and feel a bit of give, too.
In the long run, the ability to choose avocados is a gift, not unlike the ability to choose a good mellon. JMTCW
Janet, care giver to T2
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Ricavito - 26 Feb 2006 21:00 GMT > Will one of you avocado officianados please instruct me on how to > choose a good avocado? All the ones in my stores seem mushier than > they ought to be. Or is that what I'm looking for? > > Thanks Hey Laura,
Others already described how to choose a ripe Hass avocado, and that is the only kind I buy. However, I have on occasion tried the bigger green ones (forgot the name). The way to tell if that kind are ripe is to shake them. When the stone is loose and rattles around, the fruit is ripe. I don't care for them particularly though as they seem a bit watery and less flavorful than the Hass variety. Kind of like a pummelo vs. a grapefruit.
And of course, after you finish a particularly good avocado, you can stick toothpicks in the stone and suspend it half way in a cup of water and in a few weeks you may have an avocado shoot ready to be planted.
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