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Alan S - 24 Feb 2006 00:41 GMT
Hi All

I just received my "American Diabetes Association E-News
Now!" and it was advertising their new cook-book. I wandered
over to the sales page, hoping to glean some info, but only
got the gushing blurb:

"Mr. Food and the American Diabetes Association are proud to
present an all new cookbook, Diabetic Dinners in a Dash."
Hopefully Tom can publish some of the recipes and
nutritional counts for the rest of us.

However, it wasn't a wasted exercise. In the side-bar was an
ad for the ADA Gear Pedometer, "Multi-function pedometer.
Product includes step counter, calories, clock, and alarm
clock. It can be set for miles or Km and can be adjusted for
stride length and weight to deliver very accurate distance
and energy expediture data. color: translucent black"

And it's only US$3.95. I paid nearly AU$20 for mine - for a
quality pedometer, US$3.95 is a brilliant price.
Unfortunately, s&h adds $6.75 - so it becomes $10.70.
But it's still a good price for a quality pedometer - and
it's probably much more useful in helping to control your
diabetes than the cook-book is ever likely to be:-)

http://store.diabetes.org/products/product_details.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552
4441763526&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474395181126&bmUID=1140740938304


Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Kurt - 24 Feb 2006 02:37 GMT
> Hi All
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Hopefully Tom can publish some of the recipes and
> nutritional counts for the rest of us.

Not sure of your point, Alan.  Is it the price that threw you off?  Do
you expect them to give these books away?  If you want some free
recipes there are plenty on the ADA site, just do a simple search.  As
far as the book itself, not sure how much, but a portion of everything
sold on the site goes to the ADA mission.  Doubt if Tom will be able to
publish some of the recipes since the book is copyrighted and that
would be illegal.

> However, it wasn't a wasted exercise. In the side-bar was an
> ad for the ADA Gear Pedometer, "Multi-function pedometer.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> http://store.diabetes.org/products/product_details.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552
4441763526&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474395181126&bmUID=1140740938304

That is a good deal and the P&H is pretty reasonable considering what I
had to pay to send my Mother flowers from an online site today!!
Thanks for posting the link.

Best,
Kurt
Alan S - 24 Feb 2006 03:45 GMT
>> Hi All
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>publish some of the recipes since the book is copyrighted and that
>would be illegal.

Kurt, I don't buy "diabetic" cook-books, by any author at
any price.  I was interested to see if they posted a few
examples to give some idea of the style and emphasis - as
any book sold on places like Amazon does.

I mentioned Tom simply because I presumed that he would be
that one most likely to purchase from that source. Not meant
as a dig, but I can see in hindsight it could be taken that
way; I forgot that you might buy it - let me know the if the
emphasis has changed.

>> However, it wasn't a wasted exercise. In the side-bar was an
>> ad for the ADA Gear Pedometer, "Multi-function pedometer.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>Best,
>Kurt
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Ma¢k - 24 Feb 2006 11:50 GMT
>> Hi All
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>publish some of the recipes since the book is copyrighted and that
>would be illegal.

a sample recipe showing break down of typical foods suggested, portion
sizes with nutrition label including total carbs per portion.  without
this info the book is useless.

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Julie Bove - 24 Feb 2006 21:08 GMT
> That is a good deal and the P&H is pretty reasonable considering what I
> had to pay to send my Mother flowers from an online site today!!
> Thanks for posting the link.

Flowers always cost a fortune to send.  Your best bet (if you can do this)
is a to call a florist directly that is in the area where you want the
flowers to be delivered.  That saves you the overinflated "long distance"
charge they would give you to call from your florist to theirs.  A few years
ago there used to be a no fee florist listed online.  I no longer can find
their website so perhaps they are no longer.  I used them twice.  The
flowers were less expensive than anywhere else I was told they were very
nice.  They had a very limited selection to choose from though.  Only maybe
12 different arrangements and an assortment of add-ons such as candy,
stuffed animals and balloons.

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Elizabeth  Blake - 24 Feb 2006 03:05 GMT
> And it's only US$3.95. I paid nearly AU$20 for mine - for a
> quality pedometer, US$3.95 is a brilliant price.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> http://store.diabetes.org/products/product_details.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552
4441763526&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474395181126&bmUID=1140740938304

Alan,

Do you have the same pedometer as the one on the ADA site?  I've bought some
cheap pedometers and none of them were any good.  I'm thinking that for
$3.95, you get what you pay for.  Last year, after losing or breaking yet
another cheap one, I bought an Omron pedometer that counts steps taken,
aerobic steps taken + time (aerobic steps are counted after you've walked
for at least 10 minutes non-stop), calories burned (calories take into
account all steps taken, not just aerboic) and miles walked (again, all
steps).  When I set it up I'm not sure if it asked for my weight.  If it
did, I'd better go and change it because I've walked off a LOT of those
pounds.  My Omron also saves the data for the previous 7 days.  It was
cheap, too, I paid under $25 for it and have seen it on sale from Amazon for
less than $20 (US currency).

I love my pedometer.  If I'm in a hurry in the morning and leave home
without it I feel lost.

Today my pedometer shows I walked 15,189 steps.  7,237 were aerobic steps, a
total of 68 minutes (in two big chunks).  I try to get at least 10,000 steps
a day.

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Alan S - 24 Feb 2006 03:50 GMT
>> And it's only US$3.95. I paid nearly AU$20 for mine - for a
>> quality pedometer, US$3.95 is a brilliant price.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>cheap pedometers and none of them were any good.  I'm thinking that for
>$3.95, you get what you pay for.

I agree, and I went through a few "cheap and nasty" ones
before buying my present one from the local chemist. Even it
doesn't have a brand name - but it's been good for a year
now.

I mentioned the ADA one because one would hope that they
have done a little QA testing before promoting it via their
web-site. If they back it, then the price is very good. I
don't know if s&h gets better if you add other products.

> Last year, after losing or breaking yet
>another cheap one, I bought an Omron pedometer that counts steps taken,
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>total of 68 minutes (in two big chunks).  I try to get at least 10,000 steps
>a day.

I'm not as fit as you - 10,435 yesterday:-)

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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JC - 24 Feb 2006 06:23 GMT
>>Today my pedometer shows I walked 15,189 steps.  7,237 were aerobic steps, a
>>total of 68 minutes (in two big chunks).  I try to get at least 10,000 steps
>>a day.
>
>I'm not as fit as you - 10,435 yesterday:-)

Hi Alan,

You don't have to be fit to do that.

I was given one of these pedometers a few years ago as part of a company health
program.   If I remember correctly the line was we needed to do 10,000 steps per
day as the minimum.

I traveled for an hour each way by bus to get to the office and found it easy to
rack up the 10,000 steps - just traveling seated in the bus racked up 2-3,000
steps each way.

It was just too easy.   <grin>
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Alan S - 24 Feb 2006 08:40 GMT
>I traveled for an hour each way by bus to get to the office and found it easy to
>rack up the 10,000 steps - just traveling seated in the bus racked up 2-3,000
>steps each way.
>
>It was just too easy.   <grin>

Er, yeah, you're absolutely right...

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Elizabeth Blake - 24 Feb 2006 16:39 GMT
> >>Today my pedometer shows I walked 15,189 steps.  7,237 were aerobic steps, a
> >>total of 68 minutes (in two big chunks).  I try to get at least 10,000 steps
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> It was just too easy.   <grin>

One morning I forgot to put mine on and was doing a lot of walking around my
apartment.  I decided that I walked a few hundred steps even before leaving
work, so I was going to shake my pedometer up & down to get it to count.  It
wouldn't!  It knew that I was trying to trick it.  Bumpy bus rides also
don't make it budge.

I actually do rack up about 3,000 steps just walking to/from the bus to
work.  I always go for a walk after lunch, and try to get up and walk around
at work every half hour or so.  If I go to make tea, I pace around while
waiting for the water to boil.  I know the mail doesn't come until
mid-afternoon, but I go upstairs to look for it 5 times before it arrives.

Last year, or for a long time before that, I had trouble walking even two
blocks most days.  The endo said it was intermiitent claudication, which I
looked up online.  One page recommended walking slower, which I did.  I
found I could walk for awhile without pain so I kept it up.  Eventually I
was able to speed up a little and now can walk comfortably at around 3-3.5
mph for a long time.  It also helped me lose weight, so walking is even
easier.

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Julie Bove - 24 Feb 2006 21:15 GMT
> Hi Alan,
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> It was just too easy.   <grin>

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one this happened to!  I took my daughter to
Pre-K and racked up over 2,000 steps.  I knew it was something like 300
steps to where my van was parked.  I parked across the street from the Pre-K
and walked her over there.  Then back to my van.  Then back to my apartment.
I knew there was no way I had walked that many steps!

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Peter Bowditch - 25 Feb 2006 05:45 GMT
>> Hi Alan,
>>
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>and walked her over there.  Then back to my van.  Then back to my apartment.
>I knew there was no way I had walked that many steps!

I keep mine in the little bag with my meter and strips when I am not using it. I did 2,500
steps visiting a client during the week - lift to the station in the car, walk across the
street to the station then up one flight of stairs to the train, train into Sydney, one
block there and back to the office (the meter had a rest in my briefcase while I was
working), train back to Parramatta, bus to near my place, 200 metres to home.

All of that with recumbent genes. Imagine whet I could do if I actually walked somewhere
with the thing on! <g> (I've just started using it while exercising and it looks like I do
about 100 paces per minute while walking. I am going to a soccer field tomorrow to
calibrate it for distance - 500 metres on the flat should give me a good average pace
length.)
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Elizabeth Blake - 24 Feb 2006 16:41 GMT
"Alan S" <loralweightandcarbs@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message >
> I'm not as fit as you - 10,435 yesterday:-)
>
> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Some days, usually on Sunday, I don't make it anywhere near 10,000.  Sundays
are my lazy day and while I do go for a walk, usually to the supermarket, I
don't do much other walking around.  I now feel guilty when I see my Sunday
count is only 5,000 steps or so.

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Nicky - 24 Feb 2006 12:45 GMT
>  I'm thinking that for $3.95, you get what you pay for.  Last year, after
> losing or breaking yet another cheap one, I bought an Omron pedometer

Yup, that's the one I use. Not a step lost, nor gained through unorthodox
means : )  in the last 6-7 months.

Nicky.

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Julie Bove - 24 Feb 2006 21:13 GMT
> Alan,
>
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> total of 68 minutes (in two big chunks).  I try to get at least 10,000 steps
> a day.

I'm glad yours works for you.  Mine didn't.  I bought that one because it
got such good ratings from others.  The $10 model I got elsewhere was
useless so I decided it would be worth it to get a better one that cost
more.  Mine was wildly innaccurate, either not measuring my steps at all or
giving me way more than I actually took.  I tried for days with all of the
pedometers.  I knew that it was 50 of  my steps from one end of my apartment
to the other.  Never did any of them give me anything close to this.  So I
gave up.

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TigerLily - 24 Feb 2006 18:42 GMT
i got 6.75 shipping AND A $15.00 Handling fee
making it  25.98 with taxes included :-(

they calculated the taxes incorrectly too..... i
won't tell them that

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> Hi All
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> it's probably much more useful in helping to control your
> diabetes than the cook-book is ever likely to be:-)

http://store.diabetes.org/products/product_details.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552
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> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Julie Bove - 24 Feb 2006 21:17 GMT
> i got 6.75 shipping AND A $15.00 Handling fee
> making it  25.98 with taxes included :-(
>
> they calculated the taxes incorrectly too..... i
> won't tell them that

Yikes!  Not much of a bargain then!

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Alan S - 24 Feb 2006 23:12 GMT
>i got 6.75 shipping AND A $15.00 Handling fee
>making it  25.98 with taxes included :-(
>
>they calculated the taxes incorrectly too..... i
>won't tell them that

Wow. Way too much.

There was a company in England which gave pedometers away
free as a promotion back in 2004 - you may remember it.

At $3.95, maybe the Americans here could suggest to the ADA
that a free pedometer could be used as a promotion for
renewals of membership.

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Julie Bove - 24 Feb 2006 21:04 GMT
<snip>

> However, it wasn't a wasted exercise. In the side-bar was an
> ad for the ADA Gear Pedometer, "Multi-function pedometer.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> it's probably much more useful in helping to control your
> diabetes than the cook-book is ever likely to be:-)

<snip>

I wonder if they work for women though.  I've bought several pedometers,
paying as much as $30 each, and none of them have been accurate for me.  All
have worked just fine for my husband.  One of them never registered a thing.
Another would registered 2 steps for each 50.  Still another gave me too
many or too few steps (never knew which it would be) and racked up about
2,000 steps for a short ride in the car.  Two of these had adjustments for
stride length and even light, medium or heavy steps.  One poster (haven't
seen him around in a while) here told me that at the medical facility where
he worked, they discovered that these didn't work very well for women if
used as directed.  He said they found they got better results if they
clipped it to the middle of their bra.  I haven't tried this because I
really don't know how accurate this would be and it would make me look
deformed.

I couldn't figure out why these would work better for a man than a woman.
My husband tends to step very heavily.  I do not.  My steps are very light,
unless I make a real effort to pound my feet and this is something I
couldn't (or wouldn't want) to keep up for very long.  Another theory is
that women tend to have a more rounded shape and that the pedometers only
worked on very lean women without curves.  Still another theory was that
they didn't work on overweight people because the excess weight caused them
not to sit in the right place.  However my husband is overweight with the
excess weight around the belly.

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Nicky - 24 Feb 2006 23:02 GMT
> they discovered that these didn't work very well for women if
> used as directed.  He said they found they got better results if they
> clipped it to the middle of their bra.  I haven't tried this because I
> really don't know how accurate this would be and it would make me look
> deformed.

ROFL! I wear mine either in my trouser pockets, or clipped to a skirt
waistband and dangling free. It works fine, and is as accurate as I can
measure, either by driving the route in the car or using one of those
map-measuring thingys. I guess you could wear it in a bra if you wanted to -
the brochure says you can have it as a necklace too : ) I think this only
applies to peds like the Omron though - the mechanism is not the same as the
cheapy ones with a mechanical device that can be shaken.

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Alan S - 24 Feb 2006 23:14 GMT
>I couldn't figure out why these would work better for a man than a woman.

I think it's more why they work for other people of both
genders and not for you personally.

I presume you fit it at your side, and not the front of your
waistband.

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Chris Hogg - 25 Feb 2006 12:01 GMT
<snip>
>However, it wasn't a wasted exercise. In the side-bar was an
>ad for the ADA Gear Pedometer, "Multi-function pedometer.
>Product includes step counter, calories, clock, and alarm
>clock. It can be set for miles or Km and can be adjusted for
>stride length and weight to deliver very accurate distance
>and energy expediture data. color: translucent black"
<snip>

>Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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I'm intrigued by the fact that it (and others that I've seen
advertised in the UK) calculates the energy expended. Much of my
walking is done on a beach, and walking on soft sand is hard work. On
top of that, there's a long steep hill up from the beach that really
gets my heart thumping. I assume that these pedometers wouldn't be
able to take into account soft sand and hills. Or are they cleverer
than I imagine? Have they got some sort of three-dimensional satellite
positioning system built in? (I very much doubt it!).

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