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Hi, I am 60 years old Male and have Diabetes T2 for the last 10 year. I am taking Amryl and Gloucophage. Please guide me to what exercise, and durintion, should I take to control my BS. Regards. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Regards. I guess I am surprised that if you have had T2 for 10 years that you haven't been walking already. I do 30 minutes a day broken up in 3/10 minute sessions. Brought my A1c from 10.3 to 6.3. 10 minutes doesn't bore me and doesn't over tire me. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Regards. I'm a 68 years old male and have had Diabetes T2 for about as long as you. I am taking 4 mg of Amaryl twice a day and Insulin on a sliding scale as needed. I find a daily walk on my tread mill for 30 minutes at 2 MPH does the trick for me. Thanks all. > ">> I am 60 years old Male and have Diabetes T2 for the last 10 year. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I find a daily walk on my tread mill for 30 minutes at 2 MPH does the > trick for me. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Regards. ========== It all depends on your present weight, your present ability to walk distances, your goals, the amount of time available on your schedule. I was very much overweight. Using a sensible diet in which I ate a light breakfast and light lunch and a large supper (and still have some fun foods like chocolate), combined with several long walks every day as my only exercise, I have lost 44 pounds since last May. I am still diabetic, but the weight loss dramatically lessened the amount of diabetic medicine I must take. By the time I lose another 15 pounds I hope that I will no longer need insulin at all and can get my on just the pills. When Mike Huckabee, governor of Arkansas, lost 100 pounds, he was happy to discover that he was no longer diabetic at all. Here is a great site for geting started on walking for exercise and for weight loss: http://walking.about.com/cs/howtoloseweight/a/howcalburn.htm Even if you don't need to loose weight, walking for exercise is great for increasing circulation in the legs, important for diabetics who have poor curculation down there. And such walking prevents future weight gain if you are already at a good weight. A 30-minute stroll 3 times per day along with cutting 300 calories from her daily intake is part of my wife's plan to lose 50 pounds in the next 8 months. That is a very realistic plan and goal that won't require either extreme dieting or extreme exercise. - moshe | When Mike Huckabee, governor of Arkansas, lost 100 pounds, he was happy | to discover that he was no longer diabetic at all. | | - moshe So, you're claiming that Diabetes CAN be cured? ---- RK - Animas IR1250 pumper ... having fun with autoimmune diseases NOT! dx 5/00 - last a1c 6.3 > When Mike Huckabee, governor of Arkansas, lost 100 pounds, he was happy > to discover that he was no longer diabetic at all. Bollocks. In control, maybe - but once you've lost half your beta cells, you ain't gonna get them back. Nicky.  SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg > > When Mike Huckabee, governor of Arkansas, lost 100 pounds, he was happy > > to discover that he was no longer diabetic at all. > > Bollocks. In control, maybe - but once you've lost half your beta cells, you > ain't gonna get them back. ======= Huckabee said that he had type 2 diabetes. He said that after he lost the 100 pounds his blood sugars came down to normal range and he no longer needs to take any diabetes medicine at all. If you want to call that "control", then I have no problem with such semantics. Losing significant weight like that would not work to get all diabetics completely off their meds, but it would at least lower their needed dosages, as it has with me. By the way, I was under the impression that type 2 diabetes as Huckabee had / has does not necessarily involve the loss of Beta cells. Another by the way, if a person who has never been diagnosed with diabetes has normal blood sugars because he exercises and eats healthy, how do you know whether he is non-diabetic or a controlled-diabetic? - moshe >> > When Mike Huckabee, governor of Arkansas, lost 100 pounds, he was happy >> > to discover that he was no longer diabetic at all. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >If you want to call that "control", then I have no problem with such >semantics. it's not semantics, it's the truth. >Losing significant weight like that would not work to get all diabetics >completely off their meds, but it would at least lower their needed [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >- moshe if huckabee were no longer diabetic he could eat as he did before his diabetes diagnosis, gain whatever amount weight he wanted and he would still NOT be diabetic. if can't do that, he was never cured, only got himself into the well managed range. there are plenty of obese people on this planet, not just fat, but seriously obese, who are not diabetic. Weight, in and of itself is not the cause of type 2 diabetes. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. > >> > When Mike Huckabee, governor of Arkansas, lost 100 pounds, he was happy > >> > to discover that he was no longer diabetic at all. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > it's not semantics, it's the truth. =========== You want to lump all cases of diabetes together as "truth". I am speaking of a very small sub-group of people like Governor Mike Huckabee. =========== > >Losing significant weight like that would not work to get all diabetics > >completely off their meds, but it would at least lower their needed > >dosages, as it has with me. > > > >By the way, I was under the impression that type 2 diabetes as Huckabee > >had / has does not necessarily involve the loss of Beta cells. ========= Right? ========= > >Another by the way, if a person who has never been diagnosed with > >diabetes has normal blood sugars because he exercises and eats healthy, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > diabetes diagnosis, gain whatever amount weight he wanted and he would > still NOT be diabetic. ========= Wrong. It could worsen his insulin resistance again and cause diabetes again. According to your reasoning, no non-diabetic would ever become diabetic through eating all he wants and gaining all the weight he wants, which is patently absurd. =========== > if can't do that, he was never cured, only got himself into the well > managed range. > > there are plenty of obese people on this planet, not just fat, but > seriously obese, who are not diabetic. Weight, in and of itself is > not the cause of type 2 diabetes. =========== I never said it was. But all doctors acknowledge that losing weight usually reduces insulin resistance in type 2 diabetics, and insulin resistance tends to be a / the major cause of type 2 diabetes. If one individual loses enough weight to eliminate / reduce his insulin resistance so that he now has normal blood sugars without medication, then how do you differentiate between him and a non-diabetic who has identical degree of insulin resistance and identical blood sugars? I never said that loss of Beta cells was reversible. But some insulin resistance *is* reversible through significant weight loss. And in a few individuals a great weight loss can reverse the insulin resistance enough that the person no longer needs any diabetes medicine at all to maintain normal blood sugars. Huckabee says that he exercises and eats sensibly and keeps his weight down so that his diabetes is less likely to return. But that is the same advice that doctors give patients to lessen the likelihood of developing diabetes in the first place: exercise, eat sensibly, keep your weight down. So differentiating between "control" and "prevention" in cases like Governor Huckabee *is* "semantics", because Huckbee's present condition is *exactly* identical to that of people who are told that they are not diabetics. - moshe Ma¢k wrote: > On 22 Feb 2006 14:57:06 -0800, fact-checker@hotmail.com Huffed and > Puffed the following into the madness of usenet: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Huckabee says that he exercises and eats sensibly and keeps his weight >down so that his diabetes is less likely to return. >- moshe LMAO.. read what YOU wrote!!! That is a CONTROLLED diabetic.. BUT none the less STILL diabetic. Hey moshe.. I'd stuff a sock in it now. You're trying to argue with a man who's had T1 for close to 30yrs. There isn't much he doesn't know.. FAR more then YOU could ever dream of knowing.. So... on that note.. Just so other readers know you "don't know jack" I'll step aside.. ---- RK - Animas IR1250 pumper ... having fun with autoimmune diseases NOT! dx 5/00 - last a1c 6.3 > Ma¢k wrote: > > On 22 Feb 2006 14:57:06 -0800, fact-checker@hotmail.com Huffed and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > who's had T1 for close to 30yrs. There isn't much he doesn't know.. FAR > more then YOU could ever dream of knowing.. ========= Jane Fonda has been a woman for over 65 years, so that automatically makes her an expert in the field of gynecology? I have been diabetic for 11 years, and I used to work as a medical technician in hospitals. I don't claim to know everything, but I am not totally ignorant, either. If I am mistaken about something, then by all means present authoritative sources to correct me and educate me. But you can take your insulting arrogance and stick it in your ear, fella. - moshe >> Ma¢k wrote: >> > On 22 Feb 2006 14:57:06 -0800, fact-checker@hotmail.com Huffed and [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >- moshe after meeting chung online, you think that impresses anyone anywhere? SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. >If one individual loses enough weight to eliminate / reduce his insulin >resistance so that he now has normal blood sugars without medication, >then how do you differentiate between him and a non-diabetic who has >identical degree of insulin resistance and identical blood sugars? Time. Beta cell death will continue. If you're unlucky, you get to be diabetic again in a week; if your genes are with you, it might be after you're dead. You've just got no way of knowing. It's far safer to lose the weight, do the exercise, and keep behaving like a diabetic. Forever. Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:38:21 -0000, "Nicky" <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet: >>If one individual loses enough weight to eliminate / reduce his insulin >>resistance so that he now has normal blood sugars without medication, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Nicky. the non-diabetic can eat whatever they want. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. > On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:38:21 -0000, "Nicky" > <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > the non-diabetic can eat whatever they want. ====== Nonsense. A non-diabetic who eats tons of junk food and who also becomes grossly overweight is at much greater risk of developing Type 2 Diabetes. - moshe >A non-diabetic who eats tons of junk food and who also becomes grossly >overweight is at much greater risk of developing Type 2 Diabetes. Nope - not unless they have the genetic predisposition. Most people have pancreases that can massively overproduce for years. T2 diabetes is a cluster of genetic issues, including insulin resistance, insufficiency of insulin, and a whole raft of inflammation issues including the same risk of heart attack as someone who's already had one. By losing weight, you make the insulin resistance position better, which hopefully resolves the insulin insufficiency as well. Fitness also goes a long way towards the cardio issues. What it doesn't touch is the beta cell death that's still occurring, because a diabetic's pancreas has the same kind of plaque that collects in the arteries. Therefore, you will show diabetic symptoms again at some point in the future - the definition of diabetes is when you have less than half the beta cells you need to supply your insulin requirements. By that point, you don't have enough beta cells to store up a Phase 1 insulin response, so you can't cope with a carb challenge. The idea with weight loss and exercise is to push that future beyond your personal one - but you're still a diabetic, and should always eat and exercise like one, because age brings its own insulin resistance that will itself challenge your pancreas. Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg >> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:38:21 -0000, "Nicky" >> <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >- moshe only if they have a genetic predisposition to it. a genetic link. otherwise, EVERY fat person on the planet WOULD BE diabetic. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins Jesus never hated anyone. >>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:38:21 -0000, "Nicky" >>> <ukc802466929@btconnect.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >only if they have a genetic predisposition to it. a genetic link. >otherwise, EVERY fat person on the planet WOULD BE diabetic. I was watching The Biggest Loser on TV last night. I do not need to ask the producers of this show if the contestants had full medical exams before being let in and are being constantly monitored as the show goes on. The reason I do not need to ask is that doing it any other way would be suicidal for the organisers. Again, without asking I would bet money that not one of the contestants has diabetes (of any kind), just as I am sure that their heart, kidneys and other organs were given a very good look at before the first sweat was raised. Put another way, these people are very fat but otherwise in good health. SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com > >If one individual loses enough weight to eliminate / reduce his insulin > >resistance so that he now has normal blood sugars without medication, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > you're dead. You've just got no way of knowing. It's far safer to lose the > weight, do the exercise, and keep behaving like a diabetic. Forever. ======== I'll repeat what I already said: Show me where any medical authority says that Type 2 Diabetes always involves Beta Cell death. I have always read that some Type 2 Diabetes is the result of insulin resistance without Beta Cell death, although in other people with Type 2 Diabetes it can be either cause or both causes simultaneously. Is that incorrect? If so, give me a Web link to the medical experts who say so. - moshe > I have always read that some Type 2 Diabetes is the result of insulin > resistance without Beta Cell death, although in other people with Type > 2 Diabetes it can be either cause or both causes simultaneously. Are you thinking about some of the MODY variants? They're as rare as hens' teeth. What makes you think they apply to you? Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg >> >By the way, I was under the impression that type 2 diabetes as >> >Huckabee had / has does not necessarily involve the loss of Beta >> >cells. > > ========= > > Right? Wrong. >> if huckabee were no longer diabetic he could eat as he did before his >> diabetes diagnosis, gain whatever amount weight he wanted and he [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > It could worsen his insulin resistance again and cause diabetes again. Then he is only controlled not cured. If he were cured he could go back to eating big, gaining weight and NOT becoming diabetic. By being diabetic in the first place he has shown he has the genetic disposition. He would also have some beta cell loss. > According to your reasoning, no non-diabetic would ever become > diabetic > through eating all he wants and gaining all the weight he wants, which > is patently absurd. You are misunderstanding what was said. Huckabee is supposedly cured. He has already been diabetic, the observation was about Huckabee, not non diabetics with no genetic disposition who may never become diabetic no matter how obese or inactive they are. > But all doctors acknowledge that losing weight usually reduces insulin > resistance in type 2 diabetics, and insulin resistance tends to be a / [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > then how do you differentiate between him and a non-diabetic who has > identical degree of insulin resistance and identical blood sugars? He will have some beta cell death. He can't ever be the same person as a non diabetic, not ever. > I never said that loss of Beta cells was reversible. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Huckabee says that he exercises and eats sensibly and keeps his weight > down so that his diabetes is less likely to return. That is pretty well a fact. > But that is the same advice that doctors give patients to lessen the > likelihood of developing diabetes in the first place: exercise, eat [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > not > diabetics. Nope. Back to the beta cell issue. > >> >By the way, I was under the impression that type 2 > diabetes as [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Wrong. =========== I have been going on information such as this: "They feel this description more closely follows the American Diabetes Association revised system, as published in Diabetes Care, January 1998, in which Type 1's are insulin deficient and Type 2s are basically insulin resistant." - quoted from http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_types/whatype.php If that info is incorrect or deficient, fine. But why do certain people here have to act like condemning bastards rather than simply point to Web sites that inform a poster? - moshe >> > Right? >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > 1998, in which Type 1's are insulin deficient and Type 2s are > basically insulin resistant." It's not wrong, it's just not complete. It also uses the word "basically" when describing type 2. That site was a very dumbed-down page. If only everything known about diabetes could be written in one sentence. > - quoted from > http://www.diabetesnet.com/diabetes_types/whatype.php > > If that info is incorrect or deficient, fine. > But why do certain people here have to act like condemning bastards > rather than simply point to Web sites that inform a poster? Ok, perhaps some people think that most long timers have more than a basic knowledge of both diabetes and web searching so don't want to insult someone's intelligence, I don't know. Anyway.. Without beta cell you death you can't progress to diabetes. Not all insulin resistant people progress to diabetes but all diabetics have some degree of beta cell loss. http://www.diabetesincontrol.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1994 "In the spectrum of beta-cell dysfunction, however, even early diabetes represents a very advanced stage of beta-cell failure. At the time of diagnosis, a substantial percentage of beta-cell mass has been lost, and the remaining beta cells are dysfunctional, depleted of insulin-containing granules, and responding relatively poorly to glucose stimulation. First-phase insulin secretion, which is responsible for blunting the postprandial glycemic excursion, is virtually absent, and normal pulsatile insulin secretion is severely disordered." "Significance of an Abnormal First-Phase Insulin Response It is well recognized that diminished first-phase insulin secretion is an early marker of beta-cell dysfunction, appearing long before significant changes in absolute glucose concentrations are apparent. Studies of human subjects with impaired glucose tolerance (IGT) demonstrate multiple abnormalities in both qualitative and quantitative measures of insulin secretion. Among them, first-phase insulin secretion is already markedly reduced.[1] Prandial insulin release after an oral glucose load or mixed meal is delayed as well, permitting the elevated postprandial glucose concentrations that are characteristic of these individuals, despite relatively normal fasting glucose levels." I vote for walking. Start with whatever minutes you can do comfortably and then gradually add to the time and speed of your walks. You may not become addicted to it, like me, but any little bit you do will be far better than nothing. I am 53 years old and lost 26 pounds since May 22, 2005 by walking 60 minutes a day--all in one stretch--at a brisk pace, and by cutting out high calorie desserts (I still eat lots of fruits, which are every bit as good tasting, at least in my opinion) and not having second helpings. my wake up call came when a doctor check up showed I had very high blood pressure, fairly high cholesterol and slightly high blood sugar. I am down to the recommended weight for my height (smack in the middle of the charts) and my blood pressure, cholesterol and blood sugar are now in the normal range so I don't have to go on the medications my doctor was pushing for. I feel great physically and mentally and have only missed one day of walking so far in 9 months. I highly recommend walking for weight control and general health. Dieting alone won't work, at least for me. This is the first time in years that I have been able to lose more than a couple of pounds. I am trying to add resistance training but have been pretty hot and cold with that, but walking every day is now second nature and I can't imagine not doing it. I use an mp3 player and listen to music, audio books or podcasts of an exercise or nutrition theme (there are lots to download free on the internet). So I never get bored. I have a gym membership but dislike the noise and sweaty people and stuffiness so go there only when there is ice on the sidewalks. I live in the midwest. I wear layers of clothes and a ski mask in the freezing cold and am pretty toasty once I get moving. In the blistering heat last summer I just made sure to hit the streets before 7am. I like the challenge of the elements and walk in the rain with an umbrella if I have to. There are no excuses good enough to miss my walk (well, the one time I did it was because it was the 5th day straight of having some heavy-duty nausea that I think was menopause related. I toughed it out the first 4 days but gave myself a rest for the 5th. Happily, I felt well enough to get on track the next day.) Everyone asks me how I "did it" and I sing the praises of walking to all who will listen. Its nice to know that some things about weight loss and health you CAN believe. Yes, it takes a chunk of time out of my day, but I think my physical and mental health is worth 1 hour less of TV. And accomplishing this feat every morning starts my day knowing I can do whatever I set my mind out to do. Its really the "miracle pill" for health and well-being that everyone is looking for. I thank God every day for the ability to use my legs and show my appreciation by simply doing so. Diane >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > - moshe >I vote for walking. Start with whatever minutes you can do comfortably and >then gradually add to the time and speed of your walks. i didnt read your whole post so cant say i agree or disagree but as soon as i read up to here i felt compelled to add to it. I dont know who this post is to but i just wanted to add a bit. when i was first diagnosed January 29th? 3 years ago. I had to stop walking after only 1 or 2 blocks. I started walking and around last winter built up to doing 30 minutes on a stepper and basically being able to walk anyplace i wanted to go. just yesterday i walked 11 blocks then had to walk up 6 flights of stairs and walk back. i know it doesnt sound like much but when thinking back that 3 years ago i couldnt walk 2 blocks it sure does feel good. on another good note. today while getting dressed i couldnt find the hole on my belt - i looked down and it seems it is time to put another whole in the belt bringing my total inches lost in 3 years to around 12 :). and back then my belt wasnt around my belly button like it is not. is good feels good :). You may not become > addicted to it, like me, but any little bit you do will be far better than > nothing. ok i read up to here.. but yes ones you get passed the OOO shoot not this again it is very adictive. i really godda go work.. keep up the great work. SignatureTom Exercise Today = Life Tomorrow Information you can trust from the diabetes experts... Your American Diabetes Association http://www.diabetes.org/home.jsp the American Diabetes Association's Message Boards http://community.diabetes.org/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=amdiabetesz&nav=index ADA's Diabetes Learning Center http://diabetes.org/about-diabetes.jsp Joslin Center Beginner's Guide. http://www.joslin.org/Beginners_guide.asp Pictures of My motorcycle and I think 2 of my doggies. http://www.adventurseofvtx1300c.com.50megs.com/photo.html > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Please guide me to what exercise, and durintion, should I take to control > my BS. Given the groups you've cross-posted to, it looks like you've picked on walking as a form of exercise. Good idea, IMO - it's free, good for fitness, and specifically good for controlling blood glucose levels. Weightlifting is something else to consider; more muscles make more effective use of glucose. As with anything, you need to start off low and go slow. I'd recommend buying a pedometer and wearing it for a week just to see what your current levels of activity are; then you could crank it up a small amount a week until you reach your goal. Personally, I use the 10,000 steps a day goal for ongoing weight loss and diabetes control; it took me several months to get there. Similarly, weightlifting can be started off at a very low level. You need to decide, if you start, whether you'd prefer to go to the gym, or build up a small kit at home; either way, a few gym sessions will teach you how to do it safely. I hate the gym, personally, so have a small set of free weights to use when I'm watching the TV. As to when - weightlifting can be done any time; it's not likely to raise your bg, and has a beneficial effect over several hours after you've finished. (The gym will talk to you about how to rest muscles between workouts, which is very important to allow them to repair and grow.) Walking is best done after a meal to drive glucose down - but use your meter to make sure it's not doing the opposite and sending you high! I can only walk after lunch and supper - activity at breakfast time are impossible for me. As you get fitter, you may need to talk to your GP about reducing your Amaryl dosage - beware of going too low. You should carry a juice box and a carby snack with you, just in case. Remember - whatever you decide - start low and go slow! Don't risk injury. And have fun : ) Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/74/72Kg > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Regards. I walk at a modest pace of 2.5 MPH. I started out walking 10 minutes a day(because I was so out of shape, huff'n & Puff'n) and slowly built myself up to the current 30 minutes a day(after 3 months). At first my BG's would drop 30, 40, 50 mg/dl, now they only drop 10-20, so I've been adding some load to my workout(increasing the incline on my treadmill). It doesn't take alot of walking either(in my case), if I'm short on time, 15 minutes will drop my sugars if I've had a bad meal(high carbs). I'll walk another 15 minutes later that day then. When I started, I was "winded" just walking to the mailbox & back. Now(3-4 months later) I can walk for 30 minutes at a 3% grade and not even get into my target zone(65-70% of max. heart rate). I started out taking baby steps and built myself up. Give yourself small goals at first, then increase them as you get in better shape. My goal(which my wife laughs at) is to walk up Black Mountain where I live, so I need to be able to walk for 50 minutes at 6% grade. I'm about half way there. BTW, the only time I tend to get winded now is when I replying to posts in this NG. lol Good luck with the exercise SignatureJoe W T2 Nov '05 30mg Actos, 3gr(1/2 tsp or 500mg pill) Cinnamon, Diet(>100 carbs) & 30 minute walk(everyday) & BowFlex 3x/week *****Diabetes, be proactive, not reactive.***** Start easy. Do less than you feel like doing so you'll want to do more tomorrow. Have fun. This should not be a chore. Take music along if you like. I lost 45 pounds with daily walking and never had to pump hard with huffing and puffing like many people I see out there. I make it a point of taking my time. I found it motivating to carry a pedometer, especially one with a 7 day memory. I use the Omron HJ-112. Beware of drivers making right or left turns! > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Regards. Mush, are you sure you are not me. Except for the gender, we take the same meds . Oops I am a year older. Walking is the best exercise you can do. I dont know what durination is Is that urination or duration you mean :-) Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. > Mush, are you sure you are not me. Except for the gender, we take the > same meds . Oops I am a year older. ======== You're 61? You're still much younger than Jane Fonda, and she's still cute enough to get my engine roaring as long as I don't remind myself about her politics. Maybe I saw the movie "Summer of '42" too many times. - moshe, almost 50 and still gorgeous Start with walking; it helps if you are retired and have more control of your time. I don't so I walk on my lunch hour. I started slow but steady, and now move at a brisk pace and cover at least 2 miles, probably more. Don't try to go too fast too soon. As you gain strength your pace and distance will increase. After you build strength you could look into some of the home devices - steppers, stationary bicycle, whatever fits your budget and your space. But walking will do the job. Susan Adair Good afternoon, My name is Sarah, I am 35 years old french Canadian, my work consist to offer therapeutic massage and suggest my client health wise since 1990. I ha ve been training physically since 20 years and I have come to believe that the best invigorating exercise we can enjoy at any age, is walking and Technique Nadeau. It is also imprtant to rectify our eating habits, to learn how to combined different food. If you wish to communicate with me, I will be pleased. By the way, it is my first time on the internet, I am a novice regarding the chat tools. I'm sorry about my spelling and conjugaition. By now Sarah >Good afternoon, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >regarding the chat tools. I'm sorry about my spelling and conjugaition. >By now Sarah Hi Sarah x-posts cut I'll be kind, and take it as honest that you're a novice. If you are also a diabetic looking for advice and support - welcome. Ask your questions, tell us your story, and we will help as best we can. If you cross-posted this looking for massage customers - go away please, you will not be welcome here. If you wish to offer advice on special exercise and diet techniques and you aren't a diabetic - the warmth of your welcome will depend on how you approach that. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 2x500mg SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. |
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