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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / January 2006did I miss something? theres a cure for T2 now?
Just thought I'd share my weekly trip to wallyworld with you all was quite funny today. Danni and I were about to head to the checkout and there was a woman there from those Diabetic vitamins -- well Danni stopped to get me a sample and the woman started in her little "speech" -- She said, and with much conviction too, that Type 2 Diabetes CAN be CURED. I'm like uh huh, how? She's like a simple change in diet and you can be cured. I'm like thats NOT cured thats just "in control" -- OH NO! not according to her, it totally cures you.. Then I go on to tell her, and the minute the person goes back to eating their old habits, it will come right back. She's like that's why YOU can never go back to eating like you did. Then Danni tells her I'm a diabetic and she asks how long, I said almost 6yrs, she's like wow you must have lost a LOT of weight! I'm like, um no, I did right before and I didn't need to lose any then either. She goes on to ask if I'm just diet and exercise... Danni pops out with no she pumps. The womans like, OH NO! you must have really bad diabetes! I'm so sorry. Well I couldn't help roll my eyes.. I'm like, no i'm in very good control thank you and I'm a type 1.. She goes, "A type 1? That's impossible, only children get that!" -- well at that point I'd seen just about enough of her garbage and told her to go pound sand.. We were in the checkout and Danni goes... Man she was stupid! even I know theres NO cure -- I feel sorry for anyone who listens and believes her. I just nodded.. I'm almost tempted to call that company and give um a piece of my mind.. LOL but I'll be damned if I waste the last bit on a CO that would hire someone so stupid. Well, just thought you could use a laugh --- RK, t1 Bet you just about ruined her day with the facts, and you know what, she needed her day ruined. The sad thing is, I wonder how many diabetics fell for her spiel and wasted money on the products. :-) -- Cheri RK wrote in message <6nwCf.28138$H71.26116@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>... >Just thought I'd share my weekly trip to wallyworld with you all was quite >funny today. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > >RK, t1 > Bet you just about ruined her day with the facts, and you know what, she > needed her day ruined. The sad thing is, I wonder how many diabetics > fell for her spiel and wasted money on the products. :-) > > -- > Cheri what was that famous saying? A fool and his money... However, I don't think all diabetics are fools. Dave Certainly not all of them are, but I would venture a guess that most of the diabetics who are buying her products probably are. When I was first diagnosed I fell for some really stupid scams, expensive too. That's why I've always been so thankful that I found these newsgroups. If I hadn't, I'd probably still be buying them and wondering why I'm not cured. :-) -- Cheri David wrote in message ... >> Bet you just about ruined her day with the facts, and you know what, she >> needed her day ruined. The sad thing is, I wonder how many diabetics [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Dave > Certainly not all of them are, but I would venture a guess that most of > the diabetics who are buying her products probably are. When I was first [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >> >>Dave so what you are saying is that you are either trusting naive a sucker or a fool? :) Just kidding!! dave WAS is the key word, to all of them. :-) -- Cheri David wrote in message ... >so what you are saying is that you are either > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >dave > WAS is the key word, to all of them. :-) > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >>dave there IS something to that adage,"older and wiser" after all, huh? Dave well thats what i thought too.. but just in general the piss a.s advice overall, thats just downright lying to someone. lol yeah, she wasn't happy with me.. oh well.. | Bet you just about ruined her day with the facts, and you know what, she | needed her day ruined. The sad thing is, I wonder how many diabetics [quoted text clipped - 66 lines] | > | >RK, t1 > lol yeah, she wasn't happy with me.. oh well.. You MUST be used to that by now. I can't imagine anyone in RL not wanting to cross the street when they see you coming. dave > pumps. The womans like, OH NO! you must have really bad diabetes! I'm so > sorry. Well I [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > RK, t1 The woman might have been ignorant of the facts, but as usual, RK is rude in RL, just as she is in cyberspace. Why am I not suprised? Dave >> pumps. The womans like, OH NO! you must have really bad diabetes! I'm >> so sorry. Well I [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Dave Hey, Dave - f.ck off. Vicki | >> pumps. The womans like, OH NO! you must have really bad diabetes! I'm | >> so sorry. Well I [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] | | Vicki LMAO.. you tell um!! RK -- and for the record, LOL Davetwit wasn't even there, how would he know if I was "rude" or not.. just more assumptions and lies on the well known cyberstalking BayAreaDave -- but then again, I am not surprised. Google doesn't lie. >>> pumps. The womans like, OH NO! you must have really bad diabetes! >>> I'm so sorry. Well I [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Vicki Are you her understudy? You've got the language down pat. When you are done for the night, why not print out all your foul messages and show them to all your family members, if they'll all fit in your double wide. dave >The woman might have been ignorant of the facts, but as usual, RK is >rude in RL, just as she is in cyberspace. Why am I not suprised? > >Dave Pot calling the kettle black. David, I'm a newbie here, but the impression that I've gotten is that you're the rudest person on this newsgroup. I hope I'm wrong. | >The woman might have been ignorant of the facts, but as usual, RK is | >rude in RL, just as she is in cyberspace. Why am I not suprised? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | impression that I've gotten is that you're the rudest person on this | newsgroup. I hope I'm wrong. nope Alexander, you're very correct he is the rudest person here. he's also well known in Google for being a "cyberstalker" he's had death treats from being such a jerk to others online.. but feel free to check it out for yourself.. BayAreaDave a.k.a. Dave -- Google doesn't lie. :P RK - Animas IR1250 pumper ... having fun with autoimmune diseases NOT! dx 5/00 - last a1c 6.3 > nope Alexander, you're very correct he is the rudest person here. > he's also well known in Google for being a "cyberstalker" he's had > death treats from being such a jerk to others online.. but feel free to > check it out for yourself.. BayAreaDave a.k.a. Dave -- > > Google doesn't lie. :P Wow! You are a riot! Death threats now, huh? LOL! The more you post the more others will see how deranged you are, you foul mouthed liar. Dave RK, you are delusional. You make up things to diminish those you hate in others' eyes. "Nuff said." Mary > | >The woman might have been ignorant of the facts, but as usual, RK is > | >rude in RL, just as she is in cyberspace. Why am I not suprised? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > ... having fun with autoimmune diseases NOT! > dx 5/00 - last a1c 6.3 >RK, you are delusional. You make up things to diminish those you hate >in others' eyes. > >"Nuff said." > >Mary Mary if you aren't really David writing under another pen name you should not post things like this that so obviously came directly from his sick mind. "Nuff said?"  SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 25, 2006 is 2,239. United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000 according to President Bush - probably many more. >>The woman might have been ignorant of the facts, but as usual, RK is >>rude in RL, just as she is in cyberspace. Why am I not suprised? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > impression that I've gotten is that you're the rudest person on this > newsgroup. I hope I'm wrong. Yup. Maybe you haven't seen the foul mouthed one in action. She's been notably and thankfully absent recently. All good things come to an end, unfortunately. Welcome to the R rated version of ASD, compliments of she who is nameless. Dave >>The woman might have been ignorant of the facts, but as usual, RK is >>rude in RL, just as she is in cyberspace. Why am I not suprised? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >impression that I've gotten is that you're the rudest person on this >newsgroup. I hope I'm wrong. Actually you are very perceptive Alexander. Dave has a record of attacking women here. Apparently he has the mistaken idea they are easier targets. He killfiled Mack and me right off because he didn't like us challenging him when he attacked long time friends. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 25, 2006 is 2,239. United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000 according to President Bush - probably many more. Oh, give me a break, Gramps. Why do you, RK, Mack and a few others have to give newbies the impression that those who may oppose your otherwise unopposed authority on this ng as being evil? Please, Alexander, don't be taken in by this clique of DMs who think that they are the only authority. As time goes on, you will discover that there are many perspectives, and many "facts" concerning DM that are debatable, and all perspectives should be considered. Dave may debate given "facts," and he may come across as blunt, but he is truthful and doesn't mess around trying to appease those around him. He is not bound by peer pressure, but tries to present the facts. Yet he is not profane as those in the clique may be. If you watch, you will see that no matter what he says, RK, Mack & Grandpa will argue with him even if he's right. Oh, and also they will call us names because I am Dave's wife. Sorry, if he was a jerk and steering people wrong concerning DM, I would tell him. If he is right, I will stick up for him. And I'm not also part of this NG clique. Thankfully. Mary >>>The woman might have been ignorant of the facts, but as usual, RK is >>>rude in RL, just as she is in cyberspace. Why am I not suprised? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > off because he didn't like us challenging him when he attacked long > time friends. > Oh, give me a break, Gramps. Why do you, RK, Mack and a few others have > to give newbies the impression that those who may oppose your otherwise [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> off because he didn't like us challenging him when he attacked long >> time friends. You know as well as I do you are wasting your time, honey! Have you ever seen anyone with a posting history such as Grumpy or Mack realize they are delusional. or that weirdo a few months back, David J. something or other. All mentally unbalanced. They remain in my KF, but RK is good entertainment because her comments are so outlandish I just hate to miss them. Not that I'd be opposed to her disappearing from Usenet for good...but if she's gonna post, I like a few extra laughs. dave >> Oh, give me a break, Gramps. Why do you, RK, Mack and a few others have >> to give newbies the impression that those who may oppose your otherwise [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >dave Gee whiz, it took Dave only six minutes to shift personalities, compose and post this after he/she posted under his/her alter ego, aka Mary. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 25, 2006 is 2,239. United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000 according to President Bush - probably many more. >Oh, give me a break, Gramps. Why do you, RK, Mack and a few others have >to give newbies the impression that those who may oppose your otherwise >unopposed authority on this ng as being evil? We don't. You and your alter ego Dave are just showing how paranoid your are. >Please, Alexander, don't be taken in by this clique of DMs who think >that they are the only authority. Calling us a clique is just one more way of showing your narrow minded unjustified hatred of anyone who stands up to your Dave half. How many personalities do you really have? I remember the movie "The Three Faces of Eve" very well and you are headed in that direction. > As time goes on, you will discover >that there are many perspectives, and many "facts" concerning DM that >are debatable, and all perspectives should be considered. I agree completely. They should also be considered openly without crucifying the messenger. >Dave may debate given "facts," and he may come across as blunt, but he >is truthful and doesn't mess around trying to appease those around him. What you call "truthful" is in fact flaming rudeness and intolerance. > He is not bound by peer pressure, but tries to present the facts. What a bald faced lie that is. > Yet >he is not profane as those in the clique may be. Not using everyday street language is no proof of being honorable or honest. >If you watch, you will see that no matter what he says, RK, Mack & >Grandpa will argue with him even if he's right. Another lie. > Oh, and also they will >call us names because I am Dave's wife. What names have I ever called you other than saying I am not sure if you exist other than in Dave's mind? > Sorry, if he was a jerk and >steering people wrong concerning DM, I would tell him. Sure. > If he is right, >I will stick up for him. Much better than arguing with someone you can't get away from. > And I'm not also part of this NG clique. I don't believe there is a clique in the classic meaning of the word. Don't friends normally stand up for each other? How is that being part of a clique? Any clique I have ever seen has shut others out and snubbed them. We that have been here for a number of years have not done that. If we had we would be pariahs by now. >Thankfully. > >Mary - or is it another one of BayAreaDave's personalities? If you are genuine why are so afraid to give us an even break? You just might find out how caring those of us that have been here for a long time really are. >>>>The woman might have been ignorant of the facts, but as usual, RK is >>>>rude in RL, just as she is in cyberspace. Why am I not suprised? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> off because he didn't like us challenging him when he attacked long >> time friends. SignatureGrandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ The following information is given with the utmost respect for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/ The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 25, 2006 is 2,239. United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103 Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000 according to President Bush - probably many more. >Oh, give me a break, Gramps. Why do you, RK, Mack and a few others have >to give newbies the impression that those who may oppose your otherwise >unopposed authority on this ng as being evil? >Mary other than this post when was the last time I said anything about your fruitloop husband? SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. Mack, I'd sooner have that lobster you had, than fruit loops. I'm still thinking about that dinner you were having the other day. Did you have a great time? I hope so. See, you didn't even need the rottweiller. :-) -- Cheri Ma¢k wrote in message ... >other than this post when was the last time I said anything about your >fruitloop husband? >Mack, I'd sooner have that lobster you had, than fruit loops. I'm still >thinking about that dinner you were having the other day. Did you have a >great time? I hope so. See, you didn't even need the rottweiller. :-) Yep, we had a great time. I took my sweets out for prime rib at Logan's Road House tonight. Excellent prime rib. Tomorrow I am making shrimp in red wine sauce over spaghetti. Sunday I am baking a ham. Monday or Tuesday will make home made split pea with ham from the bone and plenty of scraps. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. Damn...sounds good Mack. Never meant to impy that you were less than helpful to me, forgive me? Best that I should stay out of some of the threads, but I don't want to take sides. That was my new years resolution, to not be awful to any diabetic. Never going to happen, but I would like to think if you are ever in Lodi, Ca., you'll stop by. -- Cheri >>Mack, I'd sooner have that lobster you had, than fruit loops. I'm still >>thinking about that dinner you were having the other day. Did you have a [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Jesus never hated anyone. >Damn...sounds good Mack. Never meant to impy that you were less than >helpful to me, forgive me? Best that I should stay out of some of the >threads, but I don't want to take sides. That was my new years >resolution, to not be awful to any diabetic. Never going to happen, but >I would like to think if you are ever in Lodi, Ca., you'll stop by. nothing to forgive, I wasn't offended. did I come across that way? I haven't been in Ca since just before I turned 8. I was born in Orange County. After all this time I still have good memories from back then. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. >>The woman might have been ignorant of the facts, but as usual, RK is >>rude in RL, just as she is in cyberspace. Why am I not suprised? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >impression that I've gotten is that you're the rudest person on this >newsgroup. I hope I'm wrong. You mean you're hoping there is someone ruder? :-))) Unfortunately, your wishes may come true. I hope I'm wrong too. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >> pumps. The womans like, OH NO! you must have really bad diabetes! I'm so >> sorry. Well I [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Dave Actually, RK was remarkably restrained in my opinion. I've had similar conversations - not with herb pushers, just ignorant twits - and I commend her on her control of her temper. My most recent one was at a friend's home; I was very polite but that friend is now very aware of carbs, T1, T2 etc :-) That woman, and the company she represented (whoever they are) are dangerous and should be stopped. Unfortunately, that is something we can't really control - but stating quite clearly and publicly to their sales people's face that they are wrong is the least that we should do. Bravo RK. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. | >> pumps. The womans like, OH NO! you must have really bad diabetes! I'm so | >> sorry. Well I | >> couldn't help roll my eyes.. I'm like, no i'm in very good control thank you | >> and I'm a type 1.. | >> She goes, "A type 1? That's impossible, only children get that!" -- well at | >> that point I'd seen | >> just about enough of her garbage and told her to go pound sand.. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] | | Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. TY Alan.. I had no reason to be rude, I was too flabbergasted. I found the sample of the vitamins.. it was for those alpha-betic vitamins. http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp?CATID=100137&navAction=jump&navCount= 1&skuid=sku304962&id=prod4962 I have never thought that speaking the truth was rude. I've told this story many times here, but I'm going to tell it again. I was at Walgreens, the checker asked some old fart if he wanted to buy a walk for juvenile diabetes foot for a dollar. He said "no, let them use the money that they're spending on candy, which causes it, to pay for it. I challenged him, telling him he doesn't know what he's talking about, he never made eye contact with me, so I told him..."you should at least know what the Hell you're talking about before you make stupid statements like that." He left, still not making eye contact. I bought two feet. LOL -- Cheri RK wrote in message ... >I had no reason to be rude, I was too flabbergasted. I found the >sample of the vitamins.. it was for those alpha-betic vitamins. It is very funny and yet it is most pathetic Reisa. With people like that giving the uneducated adfcie like that, we will see many more amputees, blind people and people on dialysis. There oughtta be a law and maybe there is Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. > It is very funny and yet it is most pathetic Reisa. With people like > that giving the uneducated adfcie like that, we will see many more [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. There's no law against being ignorant nor selling non prescription, legal items. Dave don't know about a law.. and I agree abt the complications why I said something -- but did I found the vitamins. it's those alpha-betic in the purple box. ---- RK - Animas IR1250 pumper ... having fun with autoimmune diseases NOT! dx 5/00 - last a1c 6.3 | It is very funny and yet it is most pathetic Reisa. With people like | that giving the uneducated adfcie like that, we will see many more [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] | of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and | terrorism. >don't know about a law.. and I agree abt the complications >why I said something -- but did I found the vitamins. >it's those alpha-betic in the purple box. There *is* a law -- but it has its limitations. See http://www.quackwatch.org/02ConsumerProtection/dshea.html http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/suppsherbs.html The people who are hired to do in-store promotions sometimes are hired by the company that produceds the product and sometimes by the store. It is a rather low-paying job, and a lot of times the people are pushing hot dogs one day, chips the next, followed by diabetic vitamins the next. Quite common that they do not know a whole lot about what they are pushing. In this case more unfortunate than usual. Morris Yes, sadly it is quite common of the trash they push on diabetics. And I know most times those ppl working in the stores don't know sheet from shinola, which is sad, if they're going to promote a health aide, they really shld know something about it, to stop misinformation like I saw today. Signature---- RK - Animas IR1250 pumper ... having fun with autoimmune diseases NOT! dx 5/00 - last a1c 6.3 | The people who are hired to do in-store promotions sometimes are hired | by the company that produceds the product and sometimes by the store. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] | | Morris > in her little "speech" -- She said, and with much conviction too, that > Type > 2 Diabetes CAN > be CURED. I'm like uh huh, how? She's like a simple change in diet and > you > can be cured. Yeah, like there is a cure for congenital stupidity..... Will, T2 >Yeah, like there is a cure for congenital stupidity..... > >Will, T2 There is. The same cure as there is for all ills. Unfortunately the cure is a bit drastic and they can do a lot of damage before it occurs.. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > Just thought I'd share my weekly trip to wallyworld with you all was quite > funny today. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > RK, t1 There are some real idiots out there. The ignorance about diabetes is unbelievable. The worst is the ones that blame us for our illness, like we are doing something on purpose. Hope you told her off good :-) SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') > There are some real idiots out there. The ignorance about diabetes is > unbelievable. The worst is the ones that blame us for our illness, like we > are doing something on purpose. What about the ignorance of certain unnamed posters right here on ASD that are full of misinformation about DM? I don't see you complaining about them! >Hope you told her off good :-) ah, I see you are another loose cannon like she-who-will-remain-nameless. Dave | > Just thought I'd share my weekly trip to wallyworld with you all was quite | > funny today. [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] | unbelievable. The worst is the ones that blame us for our illness, like we | are doing something on purpose. Hope you told her off good :-) LOL Evelyn, I definately got my point across. Signature---- RK - Animas IR1250 pumper ... having fun with autoimmune diseases NOT! dx 5/00 - last a1c 6.3 >Just thought I'd share my weekly trip to wallyworld with you all was quite >funny today. <snip excellent story> Thanks, RK, and thanks for arguing with her. I have a strong personal dislike for those who attempt the fleece the desperate, or worse, sell them things that are harmful. When I was first Dx'd, and doing my web searches for info on metformin, insulin R, etc, I kept getting hits (usually #1) saying that the metformin (or insulin) was dangerous, and their product was better. It was a total scam, and surely a huge health risk. This also reminds me of a similar encounter I had a few months ago. I was in the health foods store, where a woman was demoing a "health drink". It was a fruit and protein smoothie, and one of the claims was "it's good for diabetes". I took one look at the label, and saw 47 grams of sugar! I asked the woman how, exactly, it was good for diabetics with that much sugar? She said "Oh, Diabetics can drink this". I told her that pitching a drink with that much sugar as good for diabetes was a sham, and that I, as a diabetic, was really offended by it (I did this VERY loudly). She looked at me, and said "well, you are a type 1 (I hadn't mentioned my type, and I'm T2), so maybe you can't have it, but other types can. I have a friend who is type 3 and she drinks it all the time". A type 3?!??!?!?! GAH!!! By that time the manager had arrived, but he didn't care either. So, I just left my basket and walked out. I won't go back there again. Sounds like this was about the same level of information as you being told that only children get type 1 (and then are cured when they become adults, apparently!) Ugh.. Thanks for chewing out that charlatan, RK! | >Just thought I'd share my weekly trip to wallyworld with you all was quite | >funny today. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] | become adults, apparently!) Ugh.. Thanks for chewing out that | charlatan, RK! LOL, Hubby asked me about that once.. said someone at work refered to someone as a Type 3.. he came home and asked me if a Type 3 was anything like "queer as a 3 dollar bill," (no offense intended.) -- I've also had some clerks push those carb heavy health bars on me, simply because I inject.. "oh you can eat those just take more insulin." -- lol once I was having a low and a clerk told me to inject insulin to prevent insulin shock! Now that one really amazed me. And YVW Chris.. but didn't really chew her out.. just showed her for the fool she was already. LOL trust me, wasn't hard at all and no rudeness involved. ---- RK - Animas IR1250 pumper ... having fun with autoimmune diseases NOT! dx 5/00 - last a1c 6.3 >| A type 3?!??!?!?! GAH!!! >| By that time the manager had arrived, but he didn't care either. So, I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >to someone as a Type 3.. he came home and asked me if a Type 3 was >anything like "queer as a 3 dollar bill," (no offense intended.) ???? I've got no reason to take offence at that saying... And I don't think a gay person would either? >-- I've >also had some clerks push those carb heavy health bars on me, simply >because I inject.. "oh you can eat those just take more insulin." -- lol Reisa, I've had a hospital try and feed me loads of white flour and sugar, and they said the same darn thing: "It's ok, you are on insulin". GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >once I was having a low and a clerk told me to inject insulin to prevent >insulin shock! Now that one really amazed me. I recall reading a novel a few years ago, where one of the characters was diabetic. The scene (even as uninformed as I was, then) set me to giggling: The character passed out, and two others checked his blood sugar (the book didn't say how..) finding he was "way too low". So, off they went in a frantic hunt for his insulin, to inject him with "before it's too late.." >And YVW Chris.. but didn't really chew her out.. just showed her for >the fool she was already. LOL trust me, wasn't hard at all and no rudeness >involved. ROFL!!!! You have more patience than I, my friend. :-) >>| A type 3?!??!?!?! GAH!!! >>| By that time the manager had arrived, but he didn't care either. So, I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >???? I've got no reason to take offence at that saying... And I don't >think a gay person would either? you'd be right. gays under the original meaning of the word queer had nothing to do with sexual orientation and is actually used correctly in "queer as a 3 dollar bill". >I recall reading a novel a few years ago, where one of the characters >was diabetic. The scene (even as uninformed as I was, then) set me to >giggling: The character passed out, and two others checked his blood >sugar (the book didn't say how..) finding he was "way too low". So, >off they went in a frantic hunt for his insulin, to inject him with >"before it's too late.." Remember the movie Panic Room? ugh. I once rented a room to a guy who dated a habitual pathological liar. I was in the dining room testing my BG and getting ready to fix lunch when this guy asked me what I was doing. I explained. He then told me how he once found a guy passed out in his car, checked for and found his medic alert bracelet like mine and then looked for and found and gave the guy an injection of his insulin. Brought him around saving his life. My reaction was literally, you are so full of sh.t. how in the hell would know that he would need insulin without testing his BG or what type and how much of that type of insulin he would need if he were high enough to go unconscious, without killing him from injecting an unknown amount of insulin? You never give an unconscious diabetic insulin. The guy tried to argue with me for a few minutes until I told him to shut the F&*k up about something I've lived with all my life. Whenever he came over to pick up his boy friend, he would never come in the house after that day. >>And YVW Chris.. but didn't really chew her out.. just showed her for >>the fool she was already. LOL trust me, wasn't hard at all and no rudeness >>involved. > >ROFL!!!! You have more patience than I, my friend. :-) You should have seen me the day I had a hypo at work and the company nurse gave me a diet sprite. I swear I was NOT praying for patience when that happened. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. >>>LOL, Hubby asked me about that once.. said someone at work refered >>>to someone as a Type 3.. he came home and asked me if a Type 3 was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >nothing to do with sexual orientation and is actually used correctly >in "queer as a 3 dollar bill". Hmmmm. One of my friends is gay, and I argue with him frequently regarding the words "gay" and "queer". The disagreement is over semantics: He says that in adopting the terms "gay" and "queer", homosexuals are "reclaiming" the words and making them their own. My position is that it cannot be reclaimed if it was not theirs prior to that, and thus should be described as claiming, not reclaiming. I don't object to the claiming at all, just to the inaccurate usage of "reclaiming". He also thinks I'm slightly homophobic because I point out that I'm not gay if someone asks if I am. I am over 30 and single, so I get asked the question often enough to find it a little irksome. I also find that people assume that I'm british due to having a british accent (everyone in my family is British) but I consider that equally irksome, so I don't think I'm homophobic. >>I recall reading a novel a few years ago, where one of the characters >>was diabetic. The scene (even as uninformed as I was, then) set me to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Remember the movie Panic Room? ugh. Sorry, I didn't see it. I have heard though that the diabetic part was badly done. >I once rented a room to a guy who >dated a habitual pathological liar. I was in the dining room testing [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >mine and then looked for and found and gave the guy an injection of >his insulin. Brought him around saving his life. So, he was trying to BS a Diabetic about Diabetes.. He wasn't just a pathological liar, but a dumb one. :-) >My reaction was literally, you are so full of sh.t. how in the hell >would know that he would need insulin without testing his BG or what >type and how much of that type of insulin he would need if he were >high enough to go unconscious, without killing him from injecting an >unknown amount of insulin? You never give an unconscious diabetic >insulin. >The guy tried to argue with me for a few minutes until I told him to >shut the F&*k up about something I've lived with all my life. >Whenever he came over to pick up his boy friend, he would never come >in the house after that day. Good for you, Mack. I hope your renter dumped him eventually, as pathological liars are very bad news IMHO. I've had a run-in recently, though with someone who I feel was just mistaken, not a liar. She was telling me about a diabetic that she worked with, who controlled his diabetes with just diet and exercise. I thought that was great, right up until she said "He's one of the few type 1's who has done this". Now, that pegged my BS meter, bigtime, so i told her that if he was a full type 1, he was not controlling by D&E alone. She insisted he was, so I pointed out that insulin has to come from somewhere, and a full T1 isn't making any of their own. She couldn't answer that, but was adamant that he's a T1 on D&E only. Now for the interesting bit: She's a nurse, and the diabetic is a Doc she works with! I'm hoping to meet the Doc soon and get to the bottom of this puzzle. (I'm betting he's a T2 and she misunderstood). >You should have seen me the day I had a hypo at work and the company >nurse gave me a diet sprite. I swear I was NOT praying for patience >when that happened. A *NURSE* tried to give you *DIET* sprite for a hypo!?!!?!? GAH! I certainly wouldn't have been wanting patience in those circumstances, either!!! I also hope she was sent back to school, pronto! >>>>LOL, Hubby asked me about that once.. said someone at work refered >>>>to someone as a Type 3.. he came home and asked me if a Type 3 was [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >don't object to the claiming at all, just to the inaccurate usage of >"reclaiming". oy, there's always a "revisionist" in every group. >He also thinks I'm slightly homophobic because I point out that I'm >not gay if someone asks if I am. I am over 30 and single, so I get >asked the question often enough to find it a little irksome. I also >find that people assume that I'm british due to having a british >accent (everyone in my family is British) but I consider that equally >irksome, so I don't think I'm homophobic. so, if someone asks you if you are gay, and you are not, what the hell does he think your answer should be? an honest no does not make you homophobic. >>>I recall reading a novel a few years ago, where one of the characters >>>was diabetic. The scene (even as uninformed as I was, then) set me to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Sorry, I didn't see it. I have heard though that the diabetic part was >badly done. It needed a lot of work. there is a lengthy discussion of it in the google archive in this group though. >>I once rented a room to a guy who >>dated a habitual pathological liar. I was in the dining room testing [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >So, he was trying to BS a Diabetic about Diabetes.. He wasn't just a >pathological liar, but a dumb one. :-) dumb doesn't even begin to describe it. >Good for you, Mack. I hope your renter dumped him eventually, as >pathological liars are very bad news IMHO. he dumped the guy after he found his deceased father's watch missing and 3 months later found it on the guy's brother's wrist. Like I said "dumb" doesn't even begin to describe him. >I've had a run-in recently, though with someone who I feel was just >mistaken, not a liar. She was telling me about a diabetic that she [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >works with! I'm hoping to meet the Doc soon and get to the bottom of >this puzzle. (I'm betting he's a T2 and she misunderstood). doesn't surprise me. There are still a lot of nurses and doctors who are used to the old terms juvenile and adult onset and get confused with type 1 and type 2. >>You should have seen me the day I had a hypo at work and the company >>nurse gave me a diet sprite. I swear I was NOT praying for patience [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >certainly wouldn't have been wanting patience in those circumstances, >either!!! I also hope she was sent back to school, pronto! I think that's why she's a company nurse now and not working for a hospital or in a private doctor's practice. Lack of competence. as far as the patience thing, ever hear the phrase, "Never pray for patience"? It's the one prayer God will always answer yes to. Unfortunately, the only way to attain patience is to be given an opportunity to practice it. SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. >so, if someone asks you if you are gay, and you are not, what the hell >does he think your answer should be? Hi Mack I'm one of those old-fashioned types. If asked "are you gay?" - it depends on my mood. Sometimes I am, sometimes I'm sad, and sometimes I'm in between - and I'd answer appropriately. If asked "are you queer?" - sometimes I feel very strange indeed:-) But no-one's ever asked me either question. Should I feel neglected? Now, if asked my sexual preference - I'd tell them it's none of their business. Of course, if they've already met my wife and family the question may be moot. Does that mean I'm homophobic? No. But I don't want to marry one:-) I don't agree with small groups in the community - whatever their particular interest - hijacking words I grew up with and changing the meanings to suit themselves. Yeah - I said I'm old-fashioned. A dude is a city-slicker on an American Ranch and gross is "very large" or 12 dozen of something. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>so, if someone asks you if you are gay, and you are not, what the hell >>does he think your answer should be? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >very strange indeed:-) But no-one's ever asked me either >question. Should I feel neglected? Count yourself lucky... Being over 35 and single seems to make some people feel as if they need to ask questions to find out what is "wrong" with you. It's actually that which ticks me off, as it's usually done from a very sanctimonious point of view that, basically, everyone should be like them (married, with kids). It's usually not long until I'm in their face at full volume if they follow that track, as it really sets me off. BTW, bear in mind that I live in an area populated largely by rednecks, fundamentalists, and Mormons, so this attitude is a bit more prevalent here than elsewhere. >Now, if asked my sexual preference - Given your nationality, you can always answer "upside down". >I don't agree with small groups in the community - whatever >their particular interest - hijacking words I grew up with >and changing the meanings to suit themselves. >Yeah - I said I'm old-fashioned. A dude is a city-slicker on >an American Ranch ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Around here, we call anyone from the city a "dude", or "tenderfoot", or "flatlander", and all are considered derogatory terms (city folk aren't real popular around these parts...). >>He also thinks I'm slightly homophobic because I point out that I'm >>not gay if someone asks if I am. I am over 30 and single, so I get [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >does he think your answer should be? an honest no does not make you >homophobic. That's my opinion too. He's an ok guy, but some of his opinions are Waaaaaay out there... For example, I've learned to never, ever mention Waco around him, not even as a place name in Texas unrelated to the famous events. >>Sorry, I didn't see it. I have heard though that the diabetic part was >>badly done. > >It needed a lot of work. > there is a lengthy discussion of it in the google archive in this >group though. Thanks, I'll go have a look... OK, interesting, and some incongruities, indeed. >>Good for you, Mack. I hope your renter dumped him eventually, as >>pathological liars are very bad news IMHO. > >he dumped the guy after he found his deceased father's watch missing >and 3 months later found it on the guy's brother's wrist. Like I said >"dumb" doesn't even begin to describe him. Yeah, that's not exactly rocket scientist material!!! Sometimes, I wonder if people like that are responding to a subconscious desire to be caught? >>I've had a run-in recently, though with someone who I feel was just >>mistaken, not a liar. She was telling me about a diabetic that she [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >are used to the old terms juvenile and adult onset and get confused >with type 1 and type 2. Yeah, that's true, come to think of it... Sad, though, that professionals can make those kind of errors. >>>You should have seen me the day I had a hypo at work and the company >>>nurse gave me a diet sprite. I swear I was NOT praying for patience [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >I think that's why she's a company nurse now and not working for a >hospital or in a private doctor's practice. Lack of competence. I wouldn't consider her competent to be a nurse in the coroner's office, but it's about the only place I'd consider her safe. >as far as the patience thing, ever hear the phrase, "Never pray for >patience"? It's the one prayer God will always answer yes to. >Unfortunately, the only way to attain patience is to be given an >opportunity to practice it. I've never heard the phrase, but I like it! >>as far as the patience thing, ever hear the phrase, "Never pray for >>patience"? It's the one prayer God will always answer yes to. >>Unfortunately, the only way to attain patience is to be given an >>opportunity to practice it. > > I've never heard the phrase, but I like it! Do you think the same thing applies to wisdom? Do humans always need to take another lap around Mt. Sinai? Frank > Do you think the same thing applies to wisdom? Do humans always need to > take another lap around Mt. Sinai? It is all very easy to be a holy man on a mountain top. Will, T2 My favorite: It's hell being perfect. c >> Do you think the same thing applies to wisdom? Do humans always need to >> take another lap around Mt. Sinai? > > It is all very easy to be a holy man on a mountain top. > > Will, T2 > My favorite: > > It's hell being perfect. > c I knew there was something in you that I recognized, Colleen.... Will >> Do you think the same thing applies to wisdom? Do humans always need to >> take another lap around Mt. Sinai? > >It is all very easy to be a holy man on a mountain top. > >Will, T2 says the man not starving on the mountain top. <grin> SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. > says the man not starving on the mountain top. > > <grin> Yes, Mack, all too easy.... and even for him, if he takes plenty of provisions when it is his time to go to the mountain top, it can be a quite an experience. Curiously, the one who plans, takes provisions, etc. does not seem to get what he/she is after always. Yet, somehow, I submit the experience is available right here, right now, all the time, if the circumstances are right. Will, T2 >> Do you think the same thing applies to wisdom? Do humans always need to >> take another lap around Mt. Sinai? > >It is all very easy to be a holy man on a mountain top. Hmmmm... do I count? I've got plenty of clothes that are worn out and thus holey... And I do live on a mountaintop, and I do have a beard... :-) > Hmmmm... do I count? I've got plenty of clothes that are worn out and > thus holey... And I do live on a mountaintop, and I do have a beard... > :-) Well, Chris, having read some of your posts, I would say, you probably qualify for the job. Just don't let it go to your head, though... Somebody may want to kill you. Ha! Being an avatar, or the like, could be a tough job. Too much wear and tear on the old bod, what with all the immolations, crucifixions, and stuff.... Nobody I know would be up to that. :-) Will, T2 These people pushing vitamins and dietary supplements as "cures" for diabetes are lower than pond scum. It saddens me to say that, because I have a cousin who does exactly that. There's no use in talking to her to get her to desist, because she's just making too much money doing it. However, I'm surprised that Walmart would give such people a forum. Maybe a letter to Walmart corporate headquarters might do some good. > These people pushing vitamins and dietary supplements as "cures" for > diabetes are lower than pond scum. It saddens me to say that, because > I have a cousin who does exactly that. There's no use in talking to > her to get her to desist, because she's just making too much money > doing it. The girl in the Walmart probably wasn't making a lot of money, just a brain washed robot. Like Amway and Tupperware sellers, the ones I know really get right into the propoganda, it's like they can't live without their products. >The girl in the Walmart probably wasn't making a lot of >money, just a brain washed robot. Like Amway and Tupperware >sellers, the ones I know really get right into the >propoganda, it's like they can't live without their >products. My cousin is somewhere toward the top of one of those distribution pyramids, so she's not only getting a large commission on all the products she sells directly, but also a cut of the sales of those to whom she's sold franchises. These products are touted as curing not only diabetes, but also just about every other ailment known to man. Before they begin to brainwash their customers, these distributors manage to brainwash themselves. They're true believers, approaching their "business" with a missionary zeal. But they never put the health claims in writing; all they cite is anecdotal evidence, and the opinions of self-styled "experts." I've concluded that trying to get my cousin to stop is fruitless. Not only has she convinced herself of the rightness of what she's doing, but she's bringing in (by her own account) more than $100,000 a year doing it. There should be a special circle in Hell reserved for such people. >>The girl in the Walmart probably wasn't making a lot of >>money, just a brain washed robot. Like Amway and Tupperware [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > account) more than $100,000 a year doing it. There should be a special > circle in Hell reserved for such people. I agree with you. They are quite often involved in religious organizations that are nearly cult like to begin with. Amway... Shaklee....both come to mind. these people are usually fundamentalist Christians who are intense "believers" anyway. They support each others indoctrination heavily, which reinforces all of it. Anecdotal evidence and emotion fuel the whole scenario.... and money, of course. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') >I agree with you. They are quite often involved in religious organizations >that are nearly cult like to begin with. Amway... Shaklee....both come to >mind. these people are usually fundamentalist Christians who are intense >"believers" anyway. They support each others indoctrination heavily, which >reinforces all of it. Anecdotal evidence and emotion fuel the whole >scenario.... and money, of course. Exactly -- It all seems to be of a piece: home schooling, Creationism, distrust of government and of science, medical quackery, pyramid schemes, "end of the world" scenarios. What all these things have in common is that they're part of a "magical" outlook on life, rather than a realistic, empirical outlook. I'll tell you this: a diabetic involved in such a mindset isn't going to do too well healthwise. Hi Alexander, your comments remind me of when I was a kid...I kinda grew up in the country. When I was in High School, we had to make an insect collection one year in the Fall for Biology... After the first frost, the only reliable place I could find bugs, like roaches, and other crawly and maggoty creatures for my collection was under the cow pies and dog sh.t. It seems like some of the vermin you are talking about would fall into the same category. Not meaning to sound intolerant, just a little annoyed with the world around me, at times.... Will, T2 >Hi Alexander, your comments remind me of when I was a kid...I kinda grew up >in the country. When I was in High School, we had to make an insect [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Not meaning to sound intolerant, just a little annoyed with the world around >me, at times.... I hear you. I too find a lot of things in the world to get angry about, particularly from the perspective of someone with diabetes. The latest outrage, IMO, is the order from the New York City health department ordering labs to report A1c test results, so that letters can be sent to patients and doctors who are not achieving "satisfactory" BG levels. Does the health department employ morons? People getting A1c tests already know they are diabetics, are under doctors' care, and are probably doing the best they can to keep the disease under control. I sure wouldn't want some government nanny looking over my shoulder to check my diabetes management. At the same time, the people that the health department *should* be helping, namely the undiagnosed diabetics and those without insurance or who are too poor to afford doctors' care, are precisely the ones *not* getting A1c tests. The "magical" outlook on life (exemplified by those who fall for quack cures, etc.) may have some psychological placebo effect, and thus may be a benefit under certain conditions. But diabetes is such a physical, cut-and-dried disease. All the vitamins in the world -- and all the psychological boosting that goes with them -- won't do you a bit of good if you don't follow the accepted medical regimen. If I didn't get my insulin, I would die. Simple as that. Then again, something like 87% of the diabetics in New York do not know what their A1c is. An awful lot of people do not go back for a second appointment to visit their doctor due to financial issues or other life issues, and a shocking number of these people never do hear what their results are, even if their doctor does. How many doctors are there who fail to followup on their patients because they are too busy? There is no denying the civil libeties issues involved here, althought they have been exaggerated somewhat as well, but a notification program like this does have the potential to keep some people from falling through the cracks. Granted routine screening for far more people than currently are screened, a thorough education program for everyone who needs it, low cost testing supplies and diabetes medications for the uninusred are perhaps really needed to confront the problem head on. But although such a program would pay huge dividends and save huge bucks long run, there are not the short term bucks to do something like that. The program they have adopted is low cost and could have some payback for the money and therefore may not be as idiotic as it may sound at first. >Then again, something like 87% of the diabetics in New York do not know >what their A1c is. An awful lot of people do not go back for a second [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >for the money and therefore may not be as idiotic as it may sound at >first. I hear you. But to address the problem, why not simply require the labs to send the A1c results *directly* to the patients, rather than having them filtered through the Health Department? The labs can include a standard cover letter interpreting the range of results. What bothers me is the "nanny issue" where the Health Department bureaucrats try to second-guess patients and doctors. I suspect that just about every diabetic, at one time or other, has had to deal with well-meaning friends and relatives who think they know better than we do what we should eat, etc. Too many such experiences early on in my disease led me to adopt a policy of clamming up about my condition. I didn't need people's sympathy, and I *certainly* didn't need their ill-informed opinions on how I should be managing my condition. I've done fairly well for 40 years without input from the "peanut gallery." This post not CC'd by email >just about enough of her garbage and told her to go pound sand.. G'day G'day RK, Horrifying. You tell it so well. It makes me more determined to get this book published. One little dent in the darkness. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > This post not CC'd by email > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Best wishes, Quentin! you are writing a book? Wonderful. Please put me on your list to notify if you do get it published! I have found your posts such an inspiration. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') This post not CC'd by email On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:29:29 GMT, "Evelyn Ruut" <mama-lionsox@hvc.rr.com> wrote: >Quentin! you are writing a book? Wonderful. Please put me on your list to >notify if you do get it published! I have found your posts such an >inspiration. G'day G'day Evelyn, This time it appears to be happening. I do need to point out though that my first book is being written with New Zealand males in mind. Some chapters virtually write themselves. One thing that I need to say is that it does strive to get across the message of taking personal control of food preparation. There are two recipes, if you can call them that, per chapter. They are very basic and they are not written with an international audience in mind. Just as I don't feel qualified to give suggestions let alone advice to T1s I also don't feel qualified to give suggestion or advice to people living in other countries. The reality of life just isn't the same. Put simply it is more a personal journey. Diabetes doesn't get a mention till about chapter 3. Some of the things I could write since I have often talked about here have been written about with much more authority than I could ever muster. By way of example think of glycemic index. The Glucose Revolution does a magnificent job. While it might seem unusual I have taken to saying it as I see it. If you want to know about this topic or that, read the book written by the people who know it best. To me that is all part of an attitude of mind. Thank you for your encouragement. It is one of the things that make asd truly supportive. Best wishes, SignatureQuentin Grady ^ ^ / New Zealand, >#,#< [ / \ /\ "... and the blind dog was leading." http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin > Just thought I'd share my weekly trip to wallyworld with you all was quite > funny today. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > be CURED. I'm like uh huh, how? She's like a simple change in diet and you > can be cured. <rest of excellent story snipped> I know how you felt, RK and applaud you for holding your cool. The woman obviously had no clue about diabetes and was probably told that she had a sales quota to meet. Companies that sell those kinds of things don't care about the people that they hawk their useless junk to, all they care about is their bottom line. Utilizing people like that saleslady works for them because the kind of people that these companies hire usually have kids to feed and need the money. Your story reminds me of my health class last term. The instructor pretty much said that she knows everything about diabetes because she is an RN (not a practicing RN though) and that T2 diabetes is NEVER treated with insulin. Arguing with her using myself as an example of a T2 diabetic that has progressed to the point that I have to use insulin and that pills are no longer an option for me did no good, it was like arguing with a stop sign. Frustrating for sure, but I didn't let it get the best of me since she was obviously clueless and I silently laughed at her for the rest of the term. She went to Africa this term, perhaps she will learn something about T2 diabetes treatment before she returns. Some people just don't get it. Patti Stuff about a real life snake oil merchant. I'm surprised RK was so, uh, MILD in his encounter. If it were me, I very well might have been 86'ed from Walmart forever. I''m able to constructively use my difficulties with anger management in diabetes care and bg management MOST of the time, but real-life potion-pushers not only drive me round the bend, but alll the muscles I've built up in my legs (between the walking, cycling and workouts) say "JUMP JUMP JUMP" and the tendons in the upper body are going "THROTTLE THROTTLE THROTTLE" and the jaw muscles, after years of increased broccoli, cabbage, lettuce and carrot consumption, are going "SNAKES are ON your food plan (one meat exchange) SNAKES are ON your food plan (one meat exchange)." Glad I wasn't there -- I'm buying a nice new bicycle and really don't have the time or funds for a brand new set of legal issues in my life. But it's reactions like that which lead to greater empathy to the late, lamented "Speaker to Minerals." Robert Leone rleone@hotmail.com >Stuff about a real life snake oil merchant. > >I'm surprised RK was so, uh, MILD in his encounter. If it were me, I psst, that would be "her" encounter. >very well might have been 86'ed from Walmart forever. I''m able to >constructively use my difficulties with anger management in diabetes [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Robert Leone rleone@hotmail.com SignatureMâck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. LOL! Which makes me wonder what I have missed as a relative newbie here with the story on the" late, lamented "Speaker to Minerals." " Morris Hi Morris there is a reference to "Speaker to Minerals" on Rick Mendoza's website. http://www.mendosa.com/mhd.htm You could follow that up. cheers Sharah |
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