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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / January 2006Question on a work/social situation
Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. At work, we have monthly "eating meetings". We all get together in our department to share in some lunch and chit chat. This month the lunch is pizza. Now, I love pizza, boy do I LOVE pizza, but I know I shouldn't eat it. I also don't want to stick out like sore thumb--not everyone that I work with are in the know about my diabetes. The way I see it, I have three choices: 1. Go ahead, eat the pizza, and mess up the progress I've had so far (NOT likely) 2. Go to the lunch and bring my own food, and answer all the questions, the main one being "Why?" (We have a curious bunch in our department. They're not nosy, just smart.) 3. Don't go to the lunch and look like a social snob. Has anyone else had to deal with such a delicate situation before? How did you handle it? Is there a graceful way to handle this without having to share my medical info with everyone? Sorry if this sounds stupid (and it probably does), but this another of those new situations that have come up recently. Thanks for any help you can think of! Wendy in Loiusiana > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Wendy in Loiusiana Order a salad and eat ONE piece of pizza OR eat ONLY a salad. do you think one piece is going to affect you adversely? Dave > Order a salad and eat ONE piece of pizza OR eat ONLY a salad. do you > think one piece is going to affect you adversely? Hi Wendy, I am with Dave on this one.... That is exactly what I do all the time in that kind of situation. One piece of pizza, balanced with salad, is not likely to hurt you, and heck, you may enjoy it. It is not forbidden to enjoy things! Be kind to yourself, just remember your limits. Will, T2 >> Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Dave Hi Wendy The others all gave good advice - including openness about your diabetes. However, I completely agree with Dave on this one. One modest slice won't hurt, particularly if you leave some of the crust, and the salad will stay any hunger pangs. Is it possible to order a side salad from the pizza delivery service involved? If not, take a simple home-prepared one in a suitable container and if anyone asks tell them you are trying to eat "healthy" (whatever that means:-) Provided that the knowledge of your Diabetes isn't going to meet with prejudice in your job, it's better to treat it as just part of being you. If you make it a secret then you are heading for lots of future problems with social and work dinners. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.  SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. I've got a tax office with 600 clients. If I have to test, eat a snack, politely refuse a gift (got one client who brings Sees Candy every darn year!), I DO IT. Nothing shameful about being diabetic! You are among at least 20 % of Americans. I exchange stories with a couple of new people every year.........and we do each other a good turn. You don't have to go into details - just "I'm diabetic and I prefer to stick to my approved diet." AND LEARN TO SHRUG OFF STUPID SUGGESTIONS Some of your friends ARE nosy and a few ARE stupid. But some will be wonderfully supporting and may even be diabetic too. But its YOUR life. The co-worker who says "just one won't hurt you", or "just try it, you'll love it", or "my grandmother says this is good for you" has to be ignored.. Nan, Type 2 since 1990 > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Wendy in Loiusiana I would do number 2. Tell them you don't eat pizza. If they keep asking, tell them its none of their D@mm business(tactfully, of course). Your health is nobody else's business if you don't want it to be, its up to you. Just because you work with someone, doesn't mean you owe them explanations about what you eat or don't eat. SignatureJoe T2 Nov '05 30mg Actos,3gr Cinnamon, Diet(100 carbs) & 3 mile walk(everyday) & BowFlex(3x a week) *****Diabetes, be proactive, not reactive.***** It's not good enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required Winston Churchill > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Wendy in Loiusiana I choose option 2, with the answer being "I no longer eat pizza" If further questioned, "I find I feel much better if I don't eat Pizza" Or something along those lines. Karl > If further questioned, "I find I feel much better if I don't eat Pizza" That's like how I generally deal with diabetes/eating stuff around my mother. She's in her 80s and a worry wart, so I haven't shared with her the fact that I have diabetes. The drastic change in my eating habits couldn't stay in the closet, though, so I've just said that I feel better when I eat that way. It's the truth -- not the whole unnecessary truth -- but the truth nonetheless. Priscilla Signature"Inside every older person is a younger person -- wondering what the hell happened." -- Cora Harvey Armstrong Just don't eat the crust. That's what has all the carbs. The rest of a pizza is pretty carb friendly. I find that most people really don't notice what a person eats. Eat a few bites with the crust and then pick the topping off of the rest. It's the best part anyway. c > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Wendy in Loiusiana > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > > At work, we have monthly "eating meetings". We all get together in > our department to share in some lunch and chit chat. This month the > lunch is pizza. Now, I love pizza, boy do I LOVE pizza, but I know I > shouldn't eat it. I also don't want to stick out like sore thumb--not > everyone that I work with are in the know about my diabetes. The way [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Is there a graceful way to handle this without having to share my > medical info with everyone? I never hide my diabetes, ever. If I choose to eat my diabetic way, it's no one's business but my own. I am perfectly capable of saying I won't or can't eat something because it messes with my bg's. If you want the company take your own stuff, if you don't give a damn what other people think then don't go at all. Don't let other people's potential reactions bother you one way or the other, just do what you need to do. In the end it is you who suffers the consequences, they still go merrily about their business. Sometimes it is a good way of educating those who know nothing about diabetes. If it is a pizza restaurant, then perhaps there is also salad, you could eat the tops of some of the pizzas, have some salad and maybe a narrow slice of thin base pizza. >>Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. >> [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] > salad, you could eat the tops of some of the pizzas, have > some salad and maybe a narrow slice of thin base pizza. I just tell them that I'm a gimp with diabetes and that I'm going to eat whatever I! damned well please. Usually something like: Walnuts Olives Smoked Salmon Some good cheese A few raw vegetables Fresh berries (blue if avail) with cream for dessert. Perhaps some wine (medicinal, of course) Then I'll gloat while they fatten themselves on pizza and Coca-Cola. Wendy, I would go to the lunch and for me I would have one slice of thin crusted pizza with chicken and veggies. I wouldnt eat the back crust. I would also have a salad with it. test, test, test Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. >Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 1. Go ahead, eat the pizza, and mess up the progress I've had so far >(NOT likely) Have you ever tried testing one slice of Pizza? Maybe you can eat one slice, and leave the outer crust? > 2. Go to the lunch and bring my own food, and answer all the >questions, the main one being "Why?" (We have a curious bunch in our >department. They're not nosy, just smart.) > 3. Don't go to the lunch and look like a social snob. Perhaps you have other options... Unless you are absolutely rail thin, you could say you can't eat it due to needing to lose weight, (doctor's orders). Or, just say you can't eat it, per Doctor's orders, and leave it at that. >Has anyone else had to deal with such a delicate situation before? How >did you handle it? Yes. I am a Realtor and have monthly breakfast meetings, where breakfast is provided. It's the usual buffet breakfast; toast, french toast, waffles, pancakes, english muffins, bagles, scrambled eggs, bacon, and sausage. The first one I went to, I had some bacon and sausage along with my eggs, due to not wanting to raise awkward questions and also due to being way too hungry. The next one, I just had scrambled eggs, with loads of salsa. And nobody batted an eye. >Is there a graceful way to handle this without having to share my >medical info with everyone? >Sorry if this sounds stupid (and it probably does), but this another of >those new situations that have come up recently. I know exactly how you feel, and know it is indeed awkward. I'm secretive about my diabetes in some circumstances, basically where it might adversely impact me, so I do understand. : Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. : At work, we have monthly "eating meetings". We all get together in our : department to share in some lunch and chit chat. This month the lunch : is pizza. Now, I love pizza, boy do I LOVE pizza, but I know I : shouldn't eat it. I also don't want to stick out like sore thumb--not : everyone that I work with are in the know about my diabetes. The way I : see it, I have three choices: : 1. Go ahead, eat the pizza, and mess up the progress I've had so far : (NOT likely) : 2. Go to the lunch and bring my own food, and answer all the : questions, the main one being "Why?" (We have a curious bunch in our : department. They're not nosy, just smart.) : 3. Don't go to the lunch and look like a social snob. : Has anyone else had to deal with such a delicate situation before? How : did you handle it? : Is there a graceful way to handle this without having to share my : medical info with everyone? : Sorry if this sounds stupid (and it probably does), but this another of : those new situations that have come up recently. : Thanks for any help you can think of! : Wendy in Loiusiana Wendy, I don't remember if you are someone who needs to loose some weight. If so, you can bring a lunch and tell peole you ae triying to loose weiht and pizza just doesn't help. You are not lieing, just not teling the whole story. It's no one's business, but people are nosy so it is good to have a prepared answer. Wendy > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Wendy in Loiusiana Eat the pizza. Just use the napkin to hide the crust you will toss in the trash can. I love pizza with lots of cheese and meat on them. I do allow myself a slice of thin crust once in awhile but you don't have to eat it if you don't want to, besides, everyone is on a special diet these days. If you want to claim "allergy" to certain foods, go for it. It's the truth is it makes you break out in fat or "rash out" on high blood glucose numbers:) > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Wendy in Loiusiana Have you thought about: 4) Bring something to share as an alternative. It doesn't have to be just for diabetics, only diabetic friendly. I've done this at some office events to "go with" the main dish and it has been well appreciated. While there might not be another diabetic in the group there are peobably others who would appreciate a "healthy" alternative. SignaturePete Romfh, Telecom Geek & Amateur Gourmet. http://www.bigoven.com/~promfh promfh (at) hal-pc (dot) org What amazes me is seeing the junk food that pharmaceutical reps bring into Drs. offices. I've seen trays and trays of donuts and huge sub sandwiches and stuff like that. Not once did I see a veggie and dip tray. <Light bulb goes on above Colleen's head> Duh! Junk food is good for their business! ;>)\ c >> Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > might not be another diabetic in the group there are peobably others who > would appreciate a "healthy" alternative. > What amazes me is seeing the junk food that pharmaceutical reps bring into > Drs. offices. I've seen trays and trays of donuts and huge sub sandwiches [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Duh! Junk food is good for their business! ;>)\ Yep! The last time I went to my Endo. when I lived in NY, they were running really slow. There was over a 2 hour wait. The reason? The Drs. were all picnicking with some reps who had brought so much food that they had brought some into the reception area. We could hear the chatter and laughter through the walls. We patients were getting more and more annoyed because our appointments had been scheduled before lunch time and we were getting very hungry because the time had gone past lunch. One woman started getting very sick. I don't know if she was having a hypo or what. There was another woman with her who appeared to be a caretaker with her. The caretaker went to the desk and announced that the woman was diabetic and had missed her lunch and was getting sick. Asked if they could get her something to eat. The person behind the reception desk informed her that they had no food. This was not true since we could clearly see large platters of cookies and pastries back there. The caretaker then asked if the woman could have one of the cookies. The person behind the reception desk told her "no" because diabetics couldn't eat cookies. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm I would have hauled a.s outta there if that had happened to me and then registered a formal complaint with someone, somewhere. There is just no excuse for such behavior! (The doctors and receptionist...not the sick lady.) c I have to say that my doctors office is run like clockwork. The longest I have waited for the doc was 10 min. I called today to get the appointment with my new doc and she'll be seeing me Thurs. It's a 30 min. get aquainted appt. Then they'll schedule the labs and follow-up. The greatest thing is they accept Medicare assignment so there's no copays. I've had some really great docs and some really bad ones. The bad ones always seemed to be the shrinks. Could be because they are only paid 50% of the Medicare approved amt. No, Medicare still does not have parity for mental health coverage. Probably never will until a change in administration. c >> What amazes me is seeing the junk food that pharmaceutical reps bring >> into [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > The person behind the reception desk told her "no" because diabetics > couldn't eat cookies. > I would have hauled a.s outta there if that had happened to me and then > registered a formal complaint with someone, somewhere. There is just no > excuse for such behavior! (The doctors and receptionist...not the sick > lady.) > c Well, I knew it was my last visit there so I was just thankful of that. This particular office was known for hour hour + waits. The only time I got right in and right out was when I was about a 1/2 an hour late for my appointment. I got hung up in some horrible traffic jam and due to the location of the office, there was no other route to take. I did call while hung up in traffic, afraid that they'd tell me not to come in, but they said they were running late anyway. Gee, what a surprise! > I have to say that my doctors office is run like clockwork. The longest I > have waited for the doc was 10 min. I called today to get the appointment [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Probably never will until a change in administration. > c I'm used to waiting. I once waited 1/2 a day at a clinic in PA. In their defense, they do not take appointments and it's first come, first serve. And they didn't charge a lot. When I went to the GP this last week, my regular Dr. was out sick and I had to wait an hour once I was in the examining room. I kind of expected this though because I knew they had to call another Dr. in from elsewhere. My Dr. has been sick for a while. I had to take Angela to a clinic in another city the week before because our normal Dr. wasn't in. The Dr. very apologetic about the wait. And she was kind enough to follow up on the liver thing for me. The Drs. I saw in CA were horrible! They were so booked up that it could take weeks to months to get seen in the first place. And often I'd get the NP instead of the Dr. I understand that there might be a wait at times because someone might come in who needs immediate care. But when it happens every time, it's not good! And it's horrible for any medical professional to tell a diabetic that there is no food in there or that they can't have sweets. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm >> What amazes me is seeing the junk food that pharmaceutical reps bring into >> Drs. offices. I've seen trays and trays of donuts and huge sub sandwiches [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >The person behind the reception desk told her "no" because diabetics >couldn't eat cookies. And then? You've left out the best bit, when you whacked her in the chops with the sick woman's used vomit bag and stole the cookies... Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > You've left out the best bit, when you whacked her in the > chops with the sick woman's used vomit bag and stole the > cookies... No the woman tossed her own cookies. <groan> if I must say so myself, lol. > And then? > > You've left out the best bit, when you whacked her in the > chops with the sick woman's used vomit bag and stole the > cookies... No, that part didn't happen. I just remember how horrible I felt that day. It was a very hot day and the AC didn't seem to be working in the waiting room. Plus there were so many people in there, there wasn't enough seats. I was sweating to death and feeling very hyper. I suspected that my thyroid was running hyper and indeed it was, as I learned once I got moved. However that Dr. insisted that he couldn't lower my meds any more. I am very glad not to be going to that Dr. any more. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm >> And then? >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >that Dr. insisted that he couldn't lower my meds any more. I am very glad >not to be going to that Dr. any more. As a side issue, there are few places more dangerous to catch infection than a doctor's waiting room. I refuse point blank to wait in waiting rooms. I report in to the receptionist and point out that I have immunity problems (hypogammaglobulinemia) and that they should look for me outside when my turn comes, or ring me on my phone. I never ask if they will, just politely let them know and walk out. I'm always courteous, but firm, and I've never had a problem with their compliance. For the haemotologist in the city I stay in a motel next to the medical centre - the receptionist gives me a call when she guesses there is ten minutes to go. You never know what is possible until you try it. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >As a side issue, there are few places more dangerous to >catch infection than a doctor's waiting room. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >problems (hypogammaglobulinemia) and that they should look >for me outside when my turn comes, or ring me on my phone. I'd like to add one item here: All diabetics are thought to be at increased risks for infections diseases. >I never ask if they will, just politely let them know and >walk out. I'm always courteous, but firm, and I've never had [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >You never know what is possible until you try it. Thanks for posting this, Alan. It's great advice. Colleen, a new dental practice opened in my neighborhood. They had a welcome party. On the table were trays of cookies and candy, Just right to keep up the dental business with plenty of patients. lol Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. ;>) I wonder what the psychiatrists would supply? LSD? c > Colleen, a new dental practice opened in my neighborhood. They had a > welcome party. On the table were trays of cookies and candy, Just [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. >What amazes me is seeing the junk food that pharmaceutical reps bring into >Drs. offices. I've seen trays and trays of donuts and huge sub sandwiches [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> might not be another diabetic in the group there are peobably others who >> would appreciate a "healthy" alternative. How are you this evening, Colleen? I am starting to be very concerned for you. I find myself thinking of you a lot. Please keep us posted. We all care, very much. Will, T2 I'm doing quite well, really. We've been having slightly warmer and sunny days the last few weeks so I've been able to get out walking and that's helped my mood a lot. Jan. and Feb. are just notoriously bad months for me. Laying low right now and keeping things on an even keel. c Thanks for the concern. That's what support groups are all about. c >>What amazes me is seeing the junk food that pharmaceutical reps bring into >>Drs. offices. I've seen trays and trays of donuts and huge sub sandwiches [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > Will, T2 > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 1. Go ahead, eat the pizza, and mess up the progress I've had so far > (NOT likely) > 2. Go to the lunch and bring my own food, and answer all the > questions, the main one being "Why?" (We have a curious bunch in our > department. They're not nosy, just smart.) Possible responses: 1. "I've discovered I'm allergic to something in the crust." If they ask what happens when you eat it, roll your eyes and say, "You don't want to know!" 2. "It's not on my current diet plan and I'm doing too well with it to blow it now." 3. "My new lover wants me thinner." This response will, if nothing else, change the direction of the conversation. <g> > 3. Don't go to the lunch and look like a social snob. My solution varies with where I am in my diet cycle, since I oscillate between very tight and sloppier control, but I have been doing this since 1998 and have gotten the hang of it. When I'm going for tight control, I will either eat a salad and several slices with crust alone (ordering one with lots of meat) or I will bring along some rotisserie chicken from a supermarket takeout and eat that if it is a situation where one can bring one's own food. If you are in a restaurant, you can order chicken wings and salad instead of pizza. Just make sure they aren't breaded. But over time I've learned that 99% of people have no interest at all in what I'm eating as long as they get to eat what THEY want to eat without being made to feel guilty. --Jenny http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >> Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. >> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood > Sugar Under Control Your solution is to LIE?? sigh! dave >> Possible responses: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Your solution is to LIE?? sigh! What lie? I have a VERY bad reaction to something in the crust. It raises my blood sugar far too much. And since no one wants to hear the boring details about my blood sugar, yes, they "don't want to know." And it's also true that my lover does like me thin though, of course, he also likes me fat and in between. Perhaps you're quibbling about the adjective "New?" Even after a decade, this lovely man still feels "new" to me. <g> Or was it something else that got your knickers in a twist? --Jenny http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >>> Possible responses: >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood > Sugar Under Control Your response deserves no reply. Dave >Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Is there a graceful way to handle this without having to share my >medical info with everyone? This sort of situation came up a lot over my 30+ years of working (I'm retired now). The social dynamic was such that I would usually pick your choice #1 (above), and then the rest of the afternoon was pretty much a total loss. (I could barely stay awake.) If I had it to do over again, I would just *pretend* to eat the pizza, or go to the event but just politely decline to eat anything (pleading an upset stomach or something). Then I might get a healthier bite to eat on my own, later. Anyway, I think it's a mistake to announce to your co-workers -- those that don't have a definite "need to know" -- that you're diabetic. You might get some initial sympathy, but in the long run it's going to count against you. There's still a lot of prejudice in the workplace against those who are perceived -- rightly or wrongly -- to be "handicapped." > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > 1. Go ahead, eat the pizza, and mess up the progress I've had so far > (NOT likely) I don't know what kind of diet you are on. Is it possible for you to eat one slice? Eat just the cheese and toppings? Will there be salad? Where I used to work, the catering was usually done by a pizza place for large meetings. They usually had assorted pizzas, sometimes those huge sub type sandwiches cut into small pieces and green salad. I've never cared much for pizza, so I might take one piece and pick at that and then eat salad. > 2. Go to the lunch and bring my own food, and answer all the > questions, the main one being "Why?" (We have a curious bunch in our > department. They're not nosy, just smart.) I wouldn't go around advertising my diabetes. Nor would I keep it a secret. And perhaps if the people ordering the food knew that you needed a special diet, they could have accomodated you. Another thing I'd do when I knew we were having a catered meal was to pack some of my own food. This was prior to diabetes. But I did not care for the sandwiches, pizza, donuts and muffins that were usally at such events. I'd usually bring some raw veggies, nuts or maybe even some cheese. This was prior to learning of my dairy allergy. Nobody thought it was unusual for me to be bringing my own food. First, I was a vegetarian in those days, and second, I generally only ate healthy food. If anyone did ask why I brought my own food, I'd simply state that I didn't care for pizza. And this wasn't a lie since I truly don't care for it. I could manage to eat it every once in a while. But there was no way I could eat it as often as it was served to us at work. > 3. Don't go to the lunch and look like a social snob. I wouldn't do that. > Has anyone else had to deal with such a delicate situation before? How > did you handle it? > Is there a graceful way to handle this without having to share my > medical info with everyone? You could merely tell them that you're on a diet. If you don't want to tell them why you are on a diet. > Sorry if this sounds stupid (and it probably does), but this another of > those new situations that have come up recently. > > Thanks for any help you can think of! To me this is no biggie. I've always been a picky eater. Been a vegetarian most of my life. So even prior to diabetes, I would assume that there would be nothing suitable for me to eat. I often bring my own food. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm If you want to eat the pizza then go ahead and eat it - ya got to live life. However if it really affects your progress than don't do it. If asked, just say that it gives you bad heartburn as you have acid reflux, or that it affects your chemotherapy, or that your psychiatric medication doesn't mix well with tomato sauce......... (kidding, but you get the point .....) > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Wendy in Loiusiana Thanks all for the great replys. I believe I know how to handle this now. I am so glad I found this group. Y'all are just wonderful! Wendy in Louisiana > Thanks all for the great replys. I believe I know how to handle this > now. I am so glad I found this group. Y'all are just wonderful! Here's another idea. When ever I go to a food gathering ;) I take a large platter of raw vegetables - carrot, celery, peppers, raw mushrooms, broccoli and cauliflower if you like, thick sliced cucumbers - you get the drift. I also take a few things to dip them in - salsa, hummus, guacamole, cottage cheese, cucumber/yoghurt dips etc. Ham rolled around asparagus spears is nice (I use canned - they are very low in carbs) and bits of cheese and hard boiled egg can go on a platter like that as well. If there is nothing I can eat at the do, I am covered. You would be surprised how many people go for the raw platter. It's almost like they are secretly wishing the types of food brought to gatherings could change! > Here's another idea. When ever I go to a food gathering ;) I > take a large platter of raw vegetables - carrot, celery, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > wishing the types of food brought to gatherings could > change! I do the same. People do love the veggies so long as they don't have to prepare them! SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm > If you want to eat the pizza then go ahead and eat it - ya got to live life. > However if it really affects your progress than don't do it. If asked, just [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> >>Wendy in Loiusiana you are at least the 2nd person on this thread who's advocated LYING. What's wrong with you people that you are so intimidated, and so WEAK, that you feel the compulsion to lie. Why not tell the truth? That way you don't have to keep track of all your lies, so as not to be caught, at some point. I hate liars, BTW. Liars tend to cheat and steal, as well as play loose with the truth. Dave > you are at least the 2nd person on this thread who's advocated LYING. > What's wrong with you people that you are so intimidated, and so WEAK, > that you feel the compulsion to lie. Why not tell the truth? That way > you don't have to keep track of all your lies, so as not to be caught, > at some point. I hate liars, BTW. Liars tend to cheat and steal, as > well as play loose with the truth. That's kind of how I feel, although I recognize that many people have legitimate reasons to withhold the truth. I've sent a copy of this post via Email also, to make sure you get it. I'm sure that you wouldn't lie about your Email address, and that David@invalid.com is not a lie that you've told about your Email address. I know that you wouldn't lie to us. SignatureDan Abel dabel@sonic.net Petaluma, California, USA >I've sent a copy of this post via Email also, to make sure you get it. >I'm sure that you wouldn't lie about your Email address, and that >David@invalid.com is not a lie that you've told about your Email >address. I know that you wouldn't lie to us. :-))) Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >> If you want to eat the pizza then go ahead and eat it - ya got to live >> life. However if it really affects your progress than don't do it. If [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > at some point. I hate liars, BTW. Liars tend to cheat and steal, as > well as play loose with the truth. Crimony! Lying is not a black -n- white issue and often serves a very good purpose. Lying to spare someone's feelings or to prevent an embarrassing situation or revealing things that need not be revealed is not only best sometimes, but downright heroic, at others. I'm not suggesting being a casual liar, but it does have its uses. However, for me, I would just limit myself to one piece. No biggie. However, I realize that my ability to set limits, or deal with one piece is not universal. So, Lie or eat, is my solution, if you don't want to reveal all. Wild Monkshood > Dave >>> If you want to eat the pizza then go ahead and eat it - ya got to >>> live life. However if it really affects your progress than don't do [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > >> Dave Lying has it's uses? LOL! It worked for Clinton...for a while. At some point you have to ask yourself is it the honorable and smart thing to do? Or should you be a man and tell the truth. It's no wonder so many politicians are corrupt--look at John Q public's attitudes such as yourself. I find your attitude contemptible. and sadly, it's pervasive and nonetheless reprehensible...and says a lot about your upbringing. dave >> Crimony! Lying is not a black -n- white issue and often serves a >> very good purpose. Lying to spare someone's feelings or to prevent an [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Lying has it's uses? LOL! It worked for Clinton...for a while. Weren't you just threatening to "Plonk" someone for bringing politics into this Newsgroup. Hypocrisy is tons worse that lying, I think. At > some point you have to ask yourself is it the honorable and smart thing > to do? Or should you be a man and tell the truth. It's no wonder so > many politicians are corrupt--look at John Q public's attitudes such as > yourself. I find your attitude contemptible. I find people who believe in absolutes to be contemptible for there inflexibility. So, I guess we're even. Wild Monkshood >>> Crimony! Lying is not a black -n- white issue and often serves a >>> very good purpose. Lying to spare someone's feelings or to prevent an [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Wild Monkshood I didn't make any political statement. I used Clinton, who happens to be well known, as an example of lying. I suppose I could have used some other well known celebrity, but Clinton came to mind first. Stop splitting hairs. If you want to feel we are "even", please indulge your fantasy. Dave Here is a riddle for you, Dave. "What is an abomination to the Lord, but a very present help in time of trouble?" Ans> A lie.... That rings sorta true, doesn't it? Will, T2 > Here is a riddle for you, Dave. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Will, T2 Yes, but I don't agree with the premise that it is of "help" in time of trouble. I see it as a huge character flaw and weakness. There's no one on God's green earth that I feel compelled to lie to. For the past 3 years, my next-door neighbor was an out-of-control whack job who is a pathological liar. She has quite a reputation amongst her fellow neighbors due to her bizarre statements and behavior. The more she lied, the more we all scoff at her. To the intense pleasure of our neighborhood, she recently moved away. Life is good! :) Dave > Yes, but I don't agree with the premise that it is of "help" in time of > trouble. I see it as a huge character flaw and weakness. Yes, I know what you mean, and actually I tend to agree with you. I meant the riddle as a joke. Remember FogHorn Leghorn? ;-) Will, T2 >>Yes, but I don't agree with the premise that it is of "help" in time of >>trouble. I see it as a huge character flaw and weakness. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Will, T2 Sorry, no, and I guess the joke flew right over my head! :) dave Well, Dave, here's coming at you again... a low altitude pass FogHorn Leghorn was a rooster who ruled the roost, so to speak, in an old cartoon show that was popular 20-40 years ago..... About the same time as Rocky and Bull Winkle, Scooby- Do, the Flintstones, Daffy Duck, the Road Runner, etc. Frequently, he was on Saturday mornings. I watched the show with my kids sometimes when my daughters were little girls, in the 70's and 80's.... FogHorn Leghorn's famous line was something like, "I say, son, that's a joke! A joke, I say." In the end, the joke was usually always on old FogHorn Leghorn. Remember now? :-) Hope you are having a great day! Will, T2 > Well, Dave, here's coming at you again... a low altitude pass > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Will, T2 Will, of those you mentioned, I've watched only Daffy Duck and Road Runner. I'm not remembering the character Foghorn. It's hell to lead a sheltered life! :) Dave >you are at least the 2nd person on this thread who's advocated LYING. >What's wrong with you people that you are so intimidated, and so WEAK, >that you feel the compulsion to lie. Why not tell the truth? That way >you don't have to keep track of all your lies, so as not to be caught, >at some point. I hate liars, BTW. Liars tend to cheat and steal, as >well as play loose with the truth. There are sometimes darn good reasons to lie, such as about diabetes or other medical conditions. For example, some of us might need to keep it a secret for reasons ranging from insurance to employment. In those circumstances, honesty is definitely not the best policy. Not *announcing* that you have diabetes is not the same as *lying* about it. I can say "no thanks" & give no reason -- that's not lying about it, whether it's "no thanks to the seafood" (I'll throw up) or "no thanks to the <my diabetes plan unfriendly dish" or "no thanks to the <particular liquor" (I hate that type/mix/etc.). Or you can tell the truth, but not "the whole truth" -- "no thanks, pizza just isn't 'it' for me today" -- you're not (I hope) on the witness stand here! I've often had to do a broken-record response when I'd say no to something "no thanks"; "no thank you"; "sorry, not now"; "oh, thanks anyway, but no"; "NO THANK YOU" -- and not just recently about diabetes but over the years about other things. Nor reasons given, just continued polite refusal. As a last-ditch effort, if it's forced on me, I ignore the drink or leave the food on my plate. This hasn't happened often. Nobody is obliged to tell his or her personal business to all & sundry, & keeping it to yourself doesn't make you a liar. bj >>you are at least the 2nd person on this thread who's advocated LYING. >>What's wrong with you people that you are so intimidated, and so WEAK, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > keep it a secret for reasons ranging from insurance to employment. In > those circumstances, honesty is definitely not the best policy. >>you are at least the 2nd person on this thread who's advocated LYING. >>What's wrong with you people that you are so intimidated, and so WEAK, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >keep it a secret for reasons ranging from insurance to employment. In >those circumstances, honesty is definitely not the best policy. lying about diabetes in regards to employment or insurance is illegal. and can come back to bite you in the a.s big time. Outside the USA descrimination based on chronic illness can be quite common and legal depending on what country you are in. In the USA it is illegal. However, lying to your employer about a medical condition when they need to know can be grounds for termination. But that doesn't mean you are required to reveal your diabetes to every coworker. Only those in the company who are required to know need to be told. Lying on insurance documents is insurance fraud and can carry penalties beyond simply losing coverage. Don't follow fear/stupidity based bad advice. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. I am not anonomous at all about having diabetes. I am not that ambitous that I fear what others will say if they find out that I have T2 diabetes. In my line of work (IT Support) I can't imagine a situation where it would be an issue. I'm not likely to be deployed to an isolated local for extended periods where I would not have access to a pharmacy to get testing supplies. I tell others about the challenge and find that most folks are pretty supportive. And you never know, there may be someone else that has the same condition and witnessing you making the right decisions just might encourage them to believe that they can do it too. And helping and encouraging others is a very good thing. John T2 since June 2005 "Jesus never hated anyone." But he does dissapprove of a lot of peoples behavior. > I am not anonomous at all about having diabetes. I am not that ambitous > that I fear what others will say if they find out that I have T2 > diabetes. In my line of work (IT Support) I can't imagine a situation > where it would be an issue. I'm not likely to be deployed to an > isolated local for extended periods where I would not have access to a > pharmacy to get testing supplies. And if you are happen to have an employer who would like to get rid of you, he/she might actually be _less_ likely to dump you if he/she knows about it AND knows that other people know. Because then there is the danger of being prosecuted for illegal discrimination. SignatureWes Groleau There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them. -- George Orwell > And if you are happen to have an employer who would > like to get rid of you, he/she might actually be _less_ > likely to dump you if he/she knows about it AND knows > that other people know. Because then there is the danger > of being prosecuted for illegal discrimination. This is only true if you are an employee. Anyone who is self-employed or works for others as an independent contractor, like Chris J, is NOT covered by anti-discrimination laws. They only apply to employees. --Jenny http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >> And if you are happen to have an employer who would >> ...... > > This is only true if you are an employee. ..... Notice we both said "if" ? Besides, Chris wasn't the one who asked the original question. SignatureWes Groleau After the christening of his baby brother in church, Jason sobbed all the way home in the back seat of the car. His father asked him three times what was wrong. Finally, the boy replied, "That preacher said he wanted us brought up in a Christian home, and I wanted to stay with you guys." >>>you are at least the 2nd person on this thread who's advocated LYING. >>>What's wrong with you people that you are so intimidated, and so WEAK, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >descrimination based on chronic illness can be quite common and legal >depending on what country you are in. In the USA it is illegal. I don't care if it's illegal, as it happens anyway. Let me give you an example: I'm self-employed as a Reator. I'm also a dyslexic, though I have very moderate symptoms from it (mainly, atrocious spelling). However, I would never tell anyone locally about it, as it would wreck my business! No customer is going to want to risk me transposing numbers in their paperwork, nor, for that matter, would a brokerage be comfortable with the possibility. So, I just omit it, and if need be, lie. I'm also not breaking any laws to do so. Or, another example: As a Realtor (who does not wish to run his own brokerage), I hang my license with a brokerage, and in return for a cut of my commissions they do a lot of the record keeping and insurance. One aspect of this is that I'm required to list them as a co-insured on my vehicle insurance, and that kind of insurance is expensive, as is their own liability insurance. If they knew I was diabetic they could be uncomfortable with me driving customers around, causing me, at the least, the headache of moving my license elsewhere. >>>>you are at least the 2nd person on this thread who's advocated LYING. >>>>What's wrong with you people that you are so intimidated, and so WEAK, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >diabetic they could be uncomfortable with me driving customers around, >causing me, at the least, the headache of moving my license elsewhere. That isn't decrimination. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. >>example: I'm self-employed as a Reator. I'm also a dyslexic, though I >>have very moderate symptoms from it (mainly, atrocious spelling). [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>comfortable with the possibility. So, I just omit it, and if need be, >>lie. I'm also not breaking any laws to do so. >>Or, another example: As a Realtor (who does not wish to run his own >>brokerage), I hang my license with a brokerage, and in return for a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >That isn't decrimination. Oh, both are indeed discrimination (by definition), but not illegal discrimination (and thus there is no legal defense against it). There are many forms of discrimination that are quite legal. There are also those that are illegal, but in some cases impossible to prove. The point I was trying to make is that there are some circumstances where it's not a good idea to disclose medical issues. >>>example: I'm self-employed as a Reator. I'm also a dyslexic, though I >>>have very moderate symptoms from it (mainly, atrocious spelling). [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >The point I was trying to make is that there are some circumstances >where it's not a good idea to disclose medical issues. you are wrong, but like so many you can't understand why. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. >On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 00:08:49 -0700, Chris J. <chris@noadress.com> >>Oh, both are indeed discrimination (by definition), but not illegal >>discrimination (and thus there is no legal defense against it). There [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >you are wrong, but like so many you can't understand why. Where am I wrong? Your comment was "That isn't decrimination." My reply was that it is indeed discrimination, but it is quite legal, and thus I have no legal defense against it. Thus, disclosure on my part could be detrimental. Also, I am not breaking the law. If you believe that I am wrong, I'd be very interested to know how and why? >Oh, both are indeed discrimination (by definition), but not illegal >discrimination (and thus there is no legal defense against it). There [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >The point I was trying to make is that there are some circumstances >where it's not a good idea to disclose medical issues. Personally, I think it's dishonorable to use the presence of a handicap as an excuse or "crutch" to justify poor performance at work. Yes, ask and demand *equal* treatment, but don't demand preferences. It's precisely because I didn't want to introduce such an extraneous factor that I kept quiet about my diabetes throughout my entire working career. Only the personnel department and the health clinic were told, because they "had a reason to know." In my personal experience with my co-workers, the ones whining about medical conditions and handicaps tended to be the poorest performers -- and *would* have been the poorest performers even if they didn't have their handicaps -- and their bad attitudes tended to adversely affect the whole organization. On the other hand, the best performers -- even ones I knew, from other sources, to have serious medical conditions -- never said a word about their conditions. >>Oh, both are indeed discrimination (by definition), but not illegal >>discrimination (and thus there is no legal defense against it). There [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Personally, I think it's dishonorable to use the presence of a >handicap as an excuse or "crutch" to justify poor performance at work. I completely agree with that. > Personally, I think it's dishonorable to use the presence of a > handicap as an excuse or "crutch" to justify poor performance at work. Hey, Alexander I don't think anyone should be thinking in terms of excuses, or crutches, but reality can bite big time, when we least expect it. As an example, I am lucky in that I own my own company.... So, I am "the boss". All of my employees know about my diabetes, blood pressure, and vision problems. One of my secretaries literally saved my life, one time, by driving me to the hospital, when I needed it... Some of us do need to have others be mindful of our conditions... Everyone's situation is different. Just some thoughts.... Will, T2 > Hey, Alexander > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Just some thoughts.... This is true. I don't like having to tell people about my medical problems, but sometimes I find it necessary. I remember a time when my daughter was a toddler. I took her out behind our apartment because I saw another toddler down there playing ball with his dad. They came over and the two kids were throwing the ball back and forth. Angela couldn't really catch the ball very well yet and sometimes it was getting away from her. I stood there rooted to the ground because at that point in time my neuropathy, fibromyalgia and bad leg veins had not been diagnosed. Walking was extremely difficult and painful for me. There was simply no way I could chase after that ball. I remember the dad looking strangely at me as I stood there rooted. So I apologized to him and told him that I was crippled and couldn't walk very far at all. So he understood. I had to tell other neighbors the same thing because at the time, Angela had the habit of running off from me. I couldn't chase her. I was also having frequent hypos. One very bad day, she ran out the door and was running in circles around the playground. I managed to make it down there and tried to chase her but that little amount of activity sent me into a hypo. I remember falling face down in the sand. Suddenly her little game wasn't so much fun any more. Even as a toddler, she knew about low blood sugar and she knew where I kept my "special" candy. It did take me a while to get her to realize that I wasn't playing and that I really needed the candy. But other times I wasn't so lucky. I always kept some candy in my purse, but there were times when I stepped too far away from my purse and couldn't get to that candy. I also had times where I was unaware that I was going hypo. So I told the neighbors if I started acting really sleepy or funny that I probably was in fact having a hypo and needed to eat. Had I not told them this, they would have thought I was really nutty. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm > his is true. I don't like having to tell people about my medical > problems, [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > fibromyalgia and bad leg veins had not been diagnosed. Walking was > extremely difficult and painful for me. Oh, Julie, I very much understand the pain.... and I think I have had some hypos, too, so I understand that, as well People who have never had these problems just don't always understand how you cannot walk at all, or do the simplest things..... They don't understand when your brain virtually freezes and locks up, and you have trouble even talking... Thank goodness, you are better now. Will, T2 >>Personally, I think it's dishonorable to use the presence of a >>handicap as an excuse or "crutch" to justify poor performance at work. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Will, T2 seen the Sprint ad on TV, Will? If you stick it to "the man" you are sticking it to yourself. :) dave Yep... As the man,I would rather not be the stickee, if you know what I mean! Will, T2 > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Wendy in Loiusiana Hi Wendy, This happens to me all the time in team or client meetings. If I have no good choices, I just put something on my plate and pick off the okay parts. I would eat a piece of pizza but like others mentioned here, just not eat the crust. I don't share my T2 status freely--almost none of my friends, family, or coworkers know. There's nothing to be ashamed of, but I'm just a very private person. I don't want to worry friends or family, and I prefer to appear invincible at work :-) I find people really don't pay attention to what I eat or don't eat as long as I don't make a production of it. So there's never any awkward questions. ricaVito >Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Wendy in Loiusiana brown bag it and simply say, I am simply not in the mood for pizza today. and leave it at that. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. Wendy, I'd do whatever I choose in your case. I tell people I don't care for any pizza when I don't want it, and if I do want some, I just have one slice or just eat the topping. Personally, I'd probably eat a very low carb breakfast so I have some to spare and eat a slice with a lot of salad. Pizza generally gets snarfed up and noone will notice that you didn't gorge if you are snarfing a salad most of the time! pc Hi Wendy, In my previous office, we always had monthly meeting where the office provided 20 boxes of pizzas with different toppings from one of the famous pizza restaurant in the city. Prior to the diagnose, I enjoyed so much the occasion and gobbled as much as I could untill I could barely breath. After the diagnosed, I stopped coming to the meeting and avoided the area of the meeting as far as I could to get away from that wonderful smell of pizzas. Nobody asks me why, because they can see the changes in my body shape from prior to diagnose and 3 months after the diagnose, my waist shrunk from size 42 tight to size 30 fit. It might not be the best move for doing what I did, I just can not trust myself around those wondefull smell. >Nobody asks me why, because they can see the >changes in my body shape from prior to diagnose and 3 months after the >diagnose, my waist shrunk from size 42 tight to size 30 fit. It might >not be the best move for doing what I did, I just can not trust myself >around those wondefull smell. Not the best move? It certainly worked for you! Size 42 tight to size 30 fit? Wow! Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > shouldn't eat it. I also don't want to stick out like sore thumb--not > everyone that I work with are in the know about my diabetes. My lot all know about my diabetes. I took my own food for the first social occasion, and sure enough they were curious; since then, they've been very careful to include food choices I can eat, alongside of other things. It's spread to non-social gatherings also - I'm interviewing tomorrow, and on a course on Monday; both organisers asked what I would like to eat. I now regularly get people asking about diet advice, too. They tend to be a little down in the mouth when the reply includes an enquiry about exercise - but the office is getting noticeably trimmer : ) Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.4/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/73/72Kg > I now regularly get people asking about diet advice, too. They tend to be > a little down in the mouth when the reply includes an enquiry about > exercise - but the office is getting noticeably trimmer : ) A few years ago, after I lost a lot of weight, when people asked about "my secret" -- I said "I don't recommend it, but get diagnosed with diabetes and get serious about watching *everything* you eat, changing many of your habits, thinking about it on a daily if not hourly basis, AND get serious about keeping up a *regular exercise program*" -- I didn't get a lot of applause either, sometimes a look that said "oops, sorry I asked" along with a look that said "no thanks!". :) bj People still ask me how I lost weight. I give them a one word answer. "Diabetes." The response is usually a rather dumbfounded look. I leave it at that and change the subject. If the person wants to discuss it, I will. I find for booze, food, etc. a polite "No Thank You", does the trick without any explaination. WRT booze, if a person looks surprised I just tell them that they really don't want to know me if I'd had a drink and I'll ask for a soft drink for a glass of ice-water. If you refuse often enough people get the message and leave you alone. c >> I now regularly get people asking about diet advice, too. They tend to be >> a little down in the mouth when the reply includes an enquiry about [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > :) > bj > Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Wendy in Loiusiana Wendy, order a nice big salad and eat it all slowly, but do take one slice of pizza and pick at it, leaving most of the bread behind. Nobody cares what other people are eating so much as you might think. Just so you are enjoying your food, your friends and your meeting. Everybody is on some kind of a diet these days, I can assure you it will raise far less interest than you imagine. If anyone does question you, just tell them you don't want any more pizza. Tell them you aren't in the mood for pizza. Tell them pizza gives you acid stomach. Tell them any bullshit you want, but just saying you don't want any more ought to be enough. It really isn't anyones business what you are eating or not eating. SignatureBest Regards, Evelyn (to reply to me personally, remove 'sox') BluesLady wrote in message <1138138447.408944.148410@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... >Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >. . . . >Wendy in Loiusiana You can eat "some" pizza, especially if you leave the crust (which many non-diabetics do) Thin crust is also easier for a diabetic to handle. Then, if somebody asks, you can say various things such as: a. Too much fat, I'm trying to be more heart-smart b. Fatty foods have been giving me a queasy stomach lately c. Pizza has been giving me acid indigestion lately Or, I'm diabetic. Regards Old Al b. >Ok, good people, here's a weird question for you. > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Wendy in Loiusiana Telling people you have diabetes is no big deal... It is not like having a dirty secret. I tell people freely, if I think about it, and it seems relevant to anything. Most of the time, in social situations, people don't really care that much, anyway.... Just do what you know you need to do to take care of yourself, and most of all, just be yourself. Believe it or not, you can reach an adjustment, so that diabetes does not rule your life. Good luck! Will, T2 >Has anyone else had to deal with such a delicate situation before? How >did you handle it? What I do in similar situations - if there's knives and forks available - is eat the cheese and toppings. If there's salad, works out well for me. -h Assuming from your post that you don't eat pizza at all, you could go and eat other things and if asked, "No, thanks, pizza and I don't get along." If that isn't enough for them, "It's just a medical thing." If someone is rude enough to push further than that, "Oh, I can tell you all about it, but not right now. Why don't we meet in the lounge back at the nursing home and compare notes on all our ailments? It's not like there's anything else to do there." :-) SignatureWes Groleau Expert, n.: Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides. I find that being open and honest with the people you work with is the best thing to do. My boss holds regional meetings about 3 times a year. One meeting I had to go to the restroom really bad and so since he had not called a break in three hours, I got up and went. At the next break, he called me on it. Told me I was rude for getting up and I should just suck it up and hold it. I told him that I had Type II diabetes and that when the urge came on, I had to go right now. He told me to drink less. I told him that due to the nature of the disease I need to keep myself hydrated and cannot cut back. I also told him politely that the Americans with Disabilities Act covers diabetes and that he needed to accommodate my few needs. We now have breaks every two hours and he is more understanding of what I need to stay healthy and functional in my job as a salesman. My co-workers also are aware of the diabetes and so I have their support as well. Step up to the plate (er, so to speak) and let your boss and co-workers know what is going on. They might support you more than you ever expect. |
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