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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / January 2006Interesting times
I just had an interesting period. My Bg decided to go nuts. I caught it going thru 63 and drank a small glass of OJ which sent it up to 176 when I took 5 units of Novolog and now it's at 93 right this second and I have no idea if it's going lower. Wonder what's causing this? I wasn't eating or stressing or exercising or nothing. Weird. > I just had an interesting period. My Bg decided to go nuts. I caught it > going thru 63 and drank a small glass of OJ which sent it up to 176 when I > took 5 units of Novolog and now it's at 93 right this second and I have no > idea if it's going lower. Wonder what's causing this? I wasn't eating or > stressing or exercising or nothing. Weird. welcome to my world. <g> dave >> I just had an interesting period. My Bg decided to go nuts. I >> caught it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > dave Really? This is normal? What causes it? >>> I just had an interesting period. My Bg decided to go nuts. I >>> caught it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Really? This is normal? What causes it? The nature of being DM, on insulin, varying activity, guessing wrong on carb counts, the position of the moon. I've been putting up with bg swings every day since 1978. On a pump, the swings still occur for me, but they don't require calls to 911. dave David <David@invalid.com> wrote in news:TdidnRUFbvOqZ1PeRVn- pQ@comcast.com: >>>> I just had an interesting period. My Bg decided to go nuts. I >>>> caught it [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > dave Disappointing. I thought I was in control. Now you're telling me I'm not? This diabetes stuff is going to be worst than I thought if this is more than a occasional occurance. This was the first time it really went wacky for no reason that I can tell. > David <David@invalid.com> wrote in news:TdidnRUFbvOqZ1PeRVn- > pQ@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > than a occasional occurance. This was the first time it really went wacky > for no reason that I can tell. Do you own a bottle or two of Glucotabs? >> David <David@invalid.com> wrote in news:TdidnRUFbvOqZ1PeRVn- >> pQ@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Do you own a bottle or two of Glucotabs? Nope. Maybe I will Ummm, I hope you are able to respond without alarm. If you respond with an adrenalin rush, you may respond by over-correcting, but if you respond with competence and patience, hopefully you will respond rather correctly. Nobody who is T1 will always have the correct response--the bgs tend to rise and fall quite quickly. But with time and experience, the highs and lows should be better controlled. No matter what, the whole experience is unpredictable. Just do the BEST that you can do...that's all that can be expected. Mary > David <David@invalid.com> wrote in news:TdidnRUFbvOqZ1PeRVn- > pQ@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > than a occasional occurance. This was the first time it really went wacky > for no reason that I can tell. Sorry, I was tired after my 'fun'. No alarm, I caught it before it went to low and caught it at 170's and steadied it in the 90's. I'm thinking it was the missed Lantis from last night - maybe? I've been going weeks nice and steady and then I missed my 10pm injection last night and took it at 4am - 6 hours late. I was surprised 5 units of Novolog took me down almost 90Mg. Maybe it's time to rethink how many units to use. The more I think about it it is just like the last time insulin became more effective overnight. Maybe it's time to drop the amount of Lantis I use from 10 units to 9 or 8. > Ummm, I hope you are able to respond without alarm. If you respond > with an adrenalin rush, you may respond by over-correcting, but if you [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> is more than a occasional occurance. This was the first time it >> really went wacky for no reason that I can tell. > Sorry, I was tired after my 'fun'. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Maybe it's time to drop the amount of Lantis I use from 10 units to 9 or > 8. If your previous schedule and dosage was working, it probably makes sense to go back to it. Changing the timing of the basal will upset things, from what I've read. Did the Lantus hit your body when there was no food coming in to balance it, after a night fast? If you usually inject at night, there may still be food carbs affecting it when it first hits. I find that I still can see the effect of dinner on my blood sugars at 10 PM. Lantus does have a small peak around 2-3 hours when it kicks in, according to some graphs I've seen published online. Also, you might do better to learn how far a gram of glucose raises your blood sugar and correct with glucose rather than OJ. I like Smarties as a glucose delivery vehicle because I know exactly how far five of them raise my blood sugar and I can eat just the amount I need to put me at a safe level. Plus it's fast. Orange juice has different sugars in it some of which require digestion, so it keeps raising your blood sugar for a while. Glucose does not require digestion and is absorbed at 15 minutes. --Jenny http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >> Sorry, I was tired after my 'fun'. >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood > Sugar Under Control That's the second time I've heard of Smarties - maybe I'll be a smarty and get some smarties. I moved it again from 4am to 6am today - I'll see how that hits the Bg's Soon. > David <David@invalid.com> wrote in news:TdidnRUFbvOqZ1PeRVn- > pQ@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > than a occasional occurance. This was the first time it really went wacky > for no reason that I can tell. Chief, you changed your basal schedule today, didn't you? It's probably that. If anything different occurs for those of us whose bodies make very little or no insulin, wild swings can result. It's the nature of the beast. Vicki >> David <David@invalid.com> wrote in news:TdidnRUFbvOqZ1PeRVn- >> pQ@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Vicki Thanks Vicki, Yep, I did and the beast was apparently watching. I missed my 10pm 24hr injection. I ended up taking it at 430am and I took it today at 0600am. I was going to take it earlier but 10pm was always a bad time. so I moved it ahead to 6am and I think I'll leave it there. I also dropped it 1 unit to 9 units. This pen from Aventis is neat but it should allow less than a 1 unit correction but that's all it allows. I would have thought that taking it late would have caused a rise instead of a drop in Bg. Chief wrote in message ... . . .(snip). . .>> >Disappointing. I thought I was in control. Now you're telling me I'm not? >This diabetes stuff is going to be worst than I thought if this is more >than a occasional occurance. This was the first time it really went wacky >for no reason that I can tell. I suggest that you still have some functioning beta cells. If so, any insulin coming from them allowed you to "under-shoot" and let them "trim" any highs and lows. Unfortunately, as they continue to die off, you become more and more dependent on your injected insulin, and hence your sugars become more and more dependent on those careful calculations which you make when you choose your doses. Umm. . .another term for those careful calculations is SWAG with as much or more emphasis on the WAG as on the S. (see David's comments on "varying activity, guessing wrong on carb counts, the position of the moon") A 63 is not a big deal to a T1. Nevertheless, IDDM folks need to carry glucose around with them. I use commercial candy (U.S. Smarties) because it's cheaper and better wrapped than Glucotabs, et. al. R.O.T.: 1 gram of glucose raises a 200-lb person bG by ~ 3 mg/dL 1 gram of glucose raises a 150-lb person bG by ~5 mg/dL The diabetes courses teach a fixed recommendation: 15 gram glucose when you detect a hypo, and 15 gram a few minutes later. I prefer to use judgement in that area. I try to figure out where the hypo came from, make a guess as to whether it is a continuing and intensifying hypo, and consider what if any food might already be in my belly. Regards Old Al > Chief wrote in message ... > . . .(snip). . .>> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Regards > Old Al Thanks Al, The first inkling I had of any diabetes problems was in October of 2005 - just a just a few months ago. About a month into using insulin I had a profound change in how I reacted to it and it became much more effective at lowering my Bg. It occurred in just one day. That day reminds me of yesterdays weirdness and now insulin has again become more effective. Could this be me just becoming less insulin resistant. In October I was using 75 units of Novolog a day with no long term insulin. It dropped my Bg from over the 500's to the mid 100's by December Then the doc put me on Lantus at 8 units and I eventually settled on 10 units. I rarely have to use Novolog now - even with meals. At ten units of Lantus, diet and exercise I've been keeping my Bgs way down from where it was and and a 14 day average of 117 with only one peak in two weeks over 150. I noticed that yesterday I started the day off lower than normal in the 90's instead of around 100. I spent a lazy day yesterday then in the afternoon my Bg dropped to the 63 reading. I probably drank a to sweet OJ drink and drove it up to the 170's and used 5 units to drive it down to the 90's. Then it stayed there until early morning when it went to 158. I left it alone and by morning it was 123. I didn't expect the OJ to react so well and I didn't expect the Novolog to react so well. The insulin seemed twice as effective as it used to be just a week earlier. SO I dropped the Lantus back to 9 units for now and I'll reduce the Novolog the next time I use it. The Aventis pen the doc gave me to use with the Lantus only allows 1 unit changes - do you know of a pen that allows smaller changes? A half a unit would be better. Chief wrote in message ... >. . .(snip). . . > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >changes - do you know of a pen that allows smaller changes? A half a unit >would be better. Some remarks: You used 5 units of Novolog to knock a 170 down into the 90's. That's really not working too well. I am a chubbo but 5 units would put me down around 40 in situation like that. The reason I bring that up is your desire to ultra-fine tune your Lantus. A low-Insulin Resistant person would consume about 0.2 units of Lantus per day per kg body weight. A high-Insulin Resistance person could easily consume 0.44 units of Lantus per day per kg body weight. If you are getting anywhere near a 24-hour release for your Lantus dose, it's hard to see what good ultra-fine tuning with half units would do for you. e.g. 9 units of Lantus means a release rate somewhere around 0.35 units per hour. If you extrapolate from your experience of 5 units of Novolog knocking your sugar down by 80 mg/dL, you would expect 0.35 units of Lantus to knock it down by (80/5) x 0.35 = ~6 mg/dL. In general, good basal insulins don't push sugars around that much. (We are not talking about Godawful-NPH here) One of their main purposes is to keep the liver calmed down, i.e. if your circulating blood insulin level drops below 12 microUnits/L, your liver is apt to frantically start releasing glucose. Whatever is going on is not simple enough for any of my broad stroke explanations. In any case, as mentioned by one of the other posters, if things aren't going well with your basal, one trick is to split it into more but smaller doses. If you split your Lantus into two doses during the day, you halve any spike or whatever. The pumpers split their basal doses into 24 discrete injections. ". . .That's the second time I've heard of Smarties - maybe I'll be a smarty and get some smarties. . ." Brand Name unwrapped glucose tabs in 0.5 lb bottle: $18/lb glucose Generic unwrapped glucose tabs in 0.5 lb bottle: $ 9/lb glucose Smarties , individually wrapped 7 gm dose $ 1.80/lb glucose. I don't understand why my wife pronounces "frugal" as C-H-E-A-P Regards Old Al > Chief wrote in message ... >>. . .(snip). . . [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > blood insulin level drops below 12 microUnits/L, your liver is apt > to frantically start releasing glucose. > Whatever is going on is not simple enough for any of my broad stroke > explanations. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > during the day, you halve any spike or whatever. The pumpers > split their basal doses into 24 discrete injections. The Lantus worked great for weeks, and good so far today. Just yesterday everything went wacky for no reason I can see. > ". . .That's the second time I've heard of Smarties - maybe I'll be a > smarty and get some smarties. . ." [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I don't understand why my wife pronounces "frugal" as C-H-E-A-P I like frugal. Frugal is good. Now I know why they named them smarties. > Regards > Old Al : David <David@invalid.com> wrote in news:TdidnRUFbvOqZ1PeRVn- : pQ@comcast.com: : >>>> I just had an interesting period. My Bg decided to go nuts. I : >>>> caught it [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] : > : > dave : Disappointing. I thought I was in control. Now you're telling me I'm not? : This diabetes stuff is going to be worst than I thought if this is more : than a occasional occurance. This was the first time it really went wacky : for no reason that I can tell. Chief I am not on insulin, but when I get a low in the 60's or lo 70's I drink a half a juice glass of orange juice and follow that a few minutes later with a single wasa or ryevita cracker with a little either cheese or tinly spread peanutbutter. If I tok a whole juice glass(4-5 oz) I would go too high. a 60-70's low is not extreme, like the 30-40's we her about in the group, so it doesn't need as extreme a solution. Wendy >: David <David@invalid.com> wrote in news:TdidnRUFbvOqZ1PeRVn- >: pQ@comcast.com: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Wendy I took to much juice. That's for sure. I was just reading an old paper and ran across this. It may be very disturbing so proceed cautiously. SAN QUENTIN, Calif. -- California executed its oldest death row inmate early Tuesday, minutes after his 76th birthday, despite arguments that putting to death an elderly, blind and wheelchair-bound man was cruel and unusual punishment. ... Clarence Ray Allen, who was blind and mostly deaf, suffered from diabetes and had a nearly fatal heart attack in September only to be revived and returned to death row, was assisted into the death chamber by four large correctional officers and lifted out of his wheelchair. He had diabetes. I wonder if his blindness was diabetes related or his wheelchair or his hearing loss or his heart attack? They must not treat diabetes behind bars. That's fairly stupid regardless of one's politics don't you think. Then there is the reviving inmates so we can kill them that really caught my attention. Pretty sad. > SAN QUENTIN, Calif. -- California executed its oldest death row inmate > early Tuesday, minutes after his 76th birthday, despite arguments that > putting to death an elderly, blind and wheelchair-bound man was cruel > and unusual punishment. ... Clarence Ray Allen, who was blind and > mostly deaf, suffered from diabetes and had a nearly fatal heart > attack in September only to be revived and returned to death row, was > assisted into the death chamber by four large correctional officers > and lifted out of his wheelchair. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Then there is the reviving inmates so we can kill them that really > caught my attention. And they sterilise the needle.... How long had he been on death row? For what crime? "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in news:ByZzf.221529$V7.112173 @news-server.bigpond.net.au: >> SAN QUENTIN, Calif. -- California executed its oldest death row inmate early Tuesday, minutes after his 76th birthday, despite arguments that putting to death an elderly, blind and wheelchair-bound man was cruel and unusual punishment. ... Clarence Ray Allen, who was blind and mostly deaf, suffered from diabetes and had a nearly fatal heart attack in September only to be revived and returned to death row, was assisted into the death chamber by four large correctional officers and lifted out of his wheelchair. He had diabetes. I wonder if his blindness was diabetes related or his wheelchair or his hearing loss or his heart attack? They must not treat diabetes behind bars. That's fairly stupid regardless of one's politics don't you think. Then there is the reviving inmates so we can kill them that really caught my attention. > And they sterilise the needle.... I wouldn't doubt it. > How long had he been on death row? For what crime? I think it was 26 years and the only ways I can think of that gets one on death row are murder and treason. He was a murderer. Regardless of the morality of this which I have a hard time bitting my tongue over, this terrible economics. : > SAN QUENTIN, Calif. -- California executed its oldest : death row inmate [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] : that really : > caught my attention. : And they sterilise the needle.... : How long had he been on death row? For what crime? If I recall correctly, (I read an article bsome days ago, but don't have it to check) he ws on death row over 19yers because of makign many apeals. He killed, I believe it as 4 poeple. Not sure if at one time or seriatum. Just the facts here, no editorial opinion. Wendy The AP article was even more strange, saying that Mr. Allen had requested that if he had another heart attack he not be revived. The warden's comment was that never would they consider doing that; they (prison officials) held to the sanctity of life. ! N Farrell, SoCal > SAN QUENTIN, Calif. -- California executed its oldest death row inmate > early Tuesday, minutes after his 76th birthday, despite arguments that [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Pretty sad. Yes, that was the most ridiculous statement I have seen in a long time, but his heart must have been pretty strong since it took two injections to stop it. I'm for the death penalty, but I'm against stupid statements like that. -- Cheri Nancy F wrote in message ... >The AP article was even more strange, saying that Mr. Allen had requested >that if he had another heart attack he not be revived. The warden's comment >was that never would they consider doing that; they (prison officials) held >to the sanctity of life. ! >N Farrell, SoCal > The AP article was even more strange, saying that Mr. Allen had requested > that if he had another heart attack he not be revived. The warden's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to the sanctity of life. ! > N Farrell, SoC It is not really punishment, if they die, unless they were afraid of death. Even then it is punishment only for so long as they are still alive and fearing death. After that, .... ? Will, T2 >The AP article was even more strange, saying that Mr. Allen had requested >that if he had another heart attack he not be revived. The warden's comment >was that never would they consider doing that; they (prison officials) held >to the sanctity of life. ! >N Farrell, SoCal since when do prison flunkies have the right to violate living wills and a patient's right to refuse medical care and the right to refuse resuscitation or extreme measures?  SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. > >> SAN QUENTIN, Calif. -- California executed its oldest death row inmate [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> Pretty sad. > The AP article was even more strange, saying that Mr. Allen had > requested that if he had another heart attack he not be revived. The [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> Pretty sad. It's pretty nutty these days Chief, it doesnt bother me at all. Ask his victims families how they feel. He wasnt so old when he did the crime, Unfortunately, the appeal process is so long and so drawn out that a person gets old waiting their turn. I am sure his death was easier than his victims. jmo Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. >Chief, it doesnt bother me at all. Ask his victims families how they >feel. He wasnt so old when he did the crime, Unfortunately, the appeal [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Loretta Yep. When there is absolutely no doubt of guilt and malevolence, I have no problem with terminating a killer. It's like excising a cancer. No matter how sweet, reformed, or venerable the perpetrator has become. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Ronetta@webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote in news:26974-43D2C9DC-235 @storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net: > Chief, it doesnt bother me at all. Ask his victims families how they > feel. He wasnt so old when he did the crime, Unfortunately, the appeal [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. Depends Loretta. I understand the rights of victims are important. I just don't think vengeance is one of those rights. Not because the criminal doesn't deserve it but because the victims deserve better. I do believe in retrobution. I think that the victims would be served better to have had him put to work for a lifetime of repaying his victims back. Put him to work for low wages fixing potholes or cleaning rest stop toilets. Heck, he was a diabetic, use him for non lethal diabetic drug research. As it is, he spent twenty years on death row at the cost of 40,000 dollars a year and the victims were not given enough to cover their economic loss unless they had lots of life insurance. So the tax payers lost 800,000 dollars and the victims lost the economic benefits of a whole family. How many of the victims were able to maintain the hate required to get anything out of a vengeaful death anyway? I don't know about others but hate is a very tiring emotion and I can't hold it very long at all. Consider this, thousands of people use death to escape a life no worse than a convicts. They use it to escape debts, loss, and life in general and when they do we wonder why they chose the 'easy way out'. Why would anyone want to coddle the murderer and give him the 'easy way out'? > Why would anyone want to coddle the murderer and give him the 'easy > way out'? It's not the easy way out if the murderer doesn't want to die. He or she gets to stew (understatement) for a long time. "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in news:ldDAf.223960$V7.159020 @news-server.bigpond.net.au: >> Why would anyone want to coddle the murderer and give him > the 'easy [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > die. He or she gets to stew (understatement) for a long > time. Sure it is. Life in a cage is much harder than no life at all. Of course you could think a devil will be waiting for him with a pitch fork but some folks believe a new life awaits and still others believe there is nothing. Who's to say. The fact remains maybe we should put it to the victims. Let them decide to kill him or make him work off his debt over his lifetime. I'd definately chose to have him live in a certain hell right here on earth than take the chance of a hell that may or may not exist. > The fact remains maybe we should put it to the victims. Murder victims rarely have anything to say ;) >> The fact remains maybe we should put it to the victims. > >Murder victims rarely have anything to say ;) Dead right. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797) >>> The fact remains maybe we should put it to the victims. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. Alan, I'll let the lady off the hook - not you my friend:) The victims are not just those dead. The victims are also those left behind. The father, the mother, the sibling or the child. Those are the ones that ought to decide. It's just economically silly to spend hundreds of thousands to house and defend a criminal for decades when he could pay back the economic loss of the living victims and still have time to meet his fate in whatever afterlife may exist. Even the Romans did better. At least the death penalty was entertaining with tigers, lions and chariots. I wonder what the ticket price was? >>>> The fact remains maybe we should put it to the victims. >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >was entertaining with tigers, lions and chariots. I wonder what the ticket >price was? Hi Chief I suspect you've misread me. Obviously I was too cryptic. I don't want to get in a major dispute, or start one. This is my personal view and I have no intention of trying to bring others to my way of thinking. Just stating my own position. To me, it's fairly clear. Any person who deliberately takes the life of another, without legal cause, forfeits their right to continue living in our society. Not quite an "eye for an eye"; I don't support capital punishment for accidental death or even negligence leading to death. But a deliberate killer is the personification of evil to me. I would only apply the extreme penalty in the case of unquestionable guilt of a deliberate illegal killing. While doubt exists, so must the accused's life. And, as I don't consider anyone doing that to be a sane member of society, a plea of insanity is hard for me to accept as mitigation. I would have no qualms about being the sentencing judge. If the victim was someone near and dear to me, I'd not relish the task of executioner but I would accept it. I probably always leaned to this view; however the long-term incarceration of Julian Knight (6 dead) and Martin Bryant (30+) in this country made my mind up. To me economics has nothing to do with it. Nor has vengeance. It's my view of justice. That's probably alienated many of those reading - but it's honest. I'll leave it at that. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>>>> The fact remains maybe we should put it to the victims. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. We both did - that's the problem with this newsgroup stuff. I said my post with a friendly grin. I posted the original thing mostly because it was about a diabetic who obviously did get much treatment and lost sight, hearing, limbs and had a heart attack. The guy is a poster boy for close control. You take care and I'm not straying from the subject anymore. There are plenty of groups to play the Sophist in. "Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in news:OhEAf.223999$V7.219833 @news-server.bigpond.net.au: >> The fact remains maybe we should put it to the victims. > > Murder victims rarely have anything to say ;) Ok, Ok I give up. Besides it's getting weird. Here I am a professional soldier talking about saving lives with two lifemakers. Somethings wrong, about this picture :) Just do me a favor, if I ever get the death penalty for using to many test strips please don't keep me in a cage and make me pay the costs back - just kill me quick. >> The fact remains maybe we should put it to the victims. > >Murder victims rarely have anything to say ;) Yes, Oz, and they and their loved ones deserve our greatest sympathy.... As the great-grandson of a murder victim, who was horribly raped, tortured, and murdered, I can attest that crimes like that leave their mark on the living for a century, or more. The effects reverberate down through the generations. Will, T2 >"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in news:ldDAf.223960$V7.159020 >@news-server.bigpond.net.au: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >chose to have him live in a certain hell right here on earth than take the >chance of a hell that may or may not exist. Hello guys, I had a client last year who was convicted of murder and multiple counts of armed robbery, kidnapping, malicious wounding, etc. He was looking at at least five life sentences, and he did not want to have to serve that kind of time. I was not really surprised to get the call one day that my client had hanged himself with a bed sheet. Inasmuch as he was a young man, I would suppose he thought he was hitting the re-set button, much like starting a new round of play in a video game. Who knows what awaited him? Anybody ever notice how the state goes to great lengths to keep the condemed alive, solely for the purpose of killing them at the appointed time with great ceremony? It is all a ridiculous show, imho. Will, T2 >>"Ozgirl" <are_we_there_yet@maccas.com> wrote in news:ldDAf.223960$V7.159020 >>@news-server.bigpond.net.au: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >Will, T2 Remind me not to hire you as my defense attorney if ever I need one! lol. Sleepy _______________________________________________________ The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak. -Hans Hofmann, painter (1880-1966) _______________________________________________________ Obviously not, or they wouldn't fight it so desperately and carry it on their appeals for 20+ years in most cases. -- Cheri Chief wrote in message ... >Sure it is. Life in a cage is much harder than no life at all. Of course >you could think a devil will be waiting for him with a pitch fork but some "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote in news:0MmdnRQPiIFsIk7eRVn- rg@inreach.com: > Obviously not, or they wouldn't fight it so desperately and carry it on > their appeals for 20+ years in most cases. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >>you could think a devil will be waiting for him with a pitch fork but > some Cheri, we both are just fleas on the dog with little or no control of the when or where of the dog's gait. I'm waving my white T-shirt in front of the monitor - you see it yet? >Obviously not, or they wouldn't fight it so desperately and carry it on >their appeals for 20+ years in most cases. No death penalty, no appeals. Sleepy _______________________________________________________ The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak. -Hans Hofmann, painter (1880-1966) _______________________________________________________ >> Why would anyone want to coddle the murderer and give him >the 'easy [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >die. He or she gets to stew (understatement) for a long >time. If ever I turn out to be a murderer, I would prefer to get the death penalty. Life in prison seems like no bargain to me. Sleepy _______________________________________________________ The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak. -Hans Hofmann, painter (1880-1966) _______________________________________________________ >>> Why would anyone want to coddle the murderer and give him >>the 'easy [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If ever I turn out to be a murderer, I would prefer to get the death > penalty. Life in prison seems like no bargain to me. I don't have any real feelings either way on the death penalty but if someone murdered one of my kids I am sure I would make every effort to tear the murderer apart with my bare hands. >Ronetta@webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote in news:26974-43D2C9DC-235 >@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >Why would anyone want to coddle the murderer and give him the 'easy way >out'? As long as everyone is taking a collection... two cents here, two cents there... I would suggest that the concepts of retribution and vengeance are responses to primitive emotions that we share with the apes. They never accomplish anything positive. I also think hate is very unproductive, and indeed, hurts everyone, the hater most of all. It may be the better course for individuals and society to simply let go of hate and vengeance. That's is not to say that punishment is not appropriate. I think that it often can be. But even the types of punishment our society is into are often not appropriate to the situation and are tainted, as it were, by an underlying sense of hate and anger. Above all, it our responsibility as individuals to thoughtfully determine what it is that we stand for and live that ideal without ceasing. So what if a killer may live a few more years. Killing the killer changes nothing. Peace, Will, T2 Will, I have to disaree with you. Killer the killer does accomplish something, It gives some closure to the victims families and the killer never takes another breath to eat three squares a day. How many meals has the victim not had because he was sentenced 26 years ago. Please, Will, if someone attacked someone you love, are you telling me that you are not going to hate the perp. It is so easy for us who are not affected to be a pollyanna, I hope I am never in the position of having to deal with that situation One more thing, the primitive apes , did they kill for the pleasure of it, or just for food if they did. Although I think apes are vegetarians, but not remembering right now. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. >Will, I have to disaree with you. Killer the killer does accomplish >something, It gives some closure to the victims families and the killer [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Loretta Not all apes are strictly vegetarian... The more serious point, though, Loretta is that we people actually have a lust for blood, I think. It is in our nature. Whenever the "bad guys" get it, it is quite satisfying... We take great pleasure in seeing or even thinking of an evil doer killed. Why do you think certain movies depicting realistic combat and shooting shows are so popular. Mel Gibson knows the secret. Sometimes, the more horrific, the better. Did you know that in England, they used to sell space for people to watch executions, and refresments were usually available for those fortunate enough to rent rooms overlooking the prison yard where the grisly deeds were carried out. It was all a big spectacle, much like a grande corrida in Spain, a gladiatorial event in Rome, and not too far removed from pro wrestling and football games of today, imho. Why do you think spectators regularly are heard at boxing matches and other sporting events to shout out, "Kill him"...??? We are addicted, I submit, to the rush of hormones that arise from our emotions, good and bad. And if we disagree, dear Loretta, I am very content to agree to disagree. I really do enjoy your perspectives on so many things very much. Will, T2 Will, I so despire boxing for the reason of people enjoying to see people fight each other even if it ends in death. The gladiators of yesteryear are the boxers for today. Capital punishment is in a different category. To me , they are mixing apples and oranges. Violence is one thing and retribution and punishment is another Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. >Will, I have to disaree with you. Killer the killer does accomplish >something, It gives some closure to the victims families and the killer >never takes another breath to eat three squares a day. And never commits another crime. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>Will, I have to disaree with you. Killer the killer does accomplish >>something, It gives some closure to the victims families and the killer [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. Yes, my friend, but as we have been learning, an alarming proportion of the convicted killers turn out to have been innocent. It seems to me, if there is potential for only one mistake, it is one mistake too many... Did you know that a year of so ago, nearly one half of those on death row in Illinois were determined not to have been guilty? So many, in fact, that the then governor commuted all the death sentences pending for those awaiting execution. ...Every day, it seems, people are being released from prison where they have been serving time for crimes that it has been conclusively proven that they did not commit. I do acknowledge that we all are likely to have different feelings on this issue. Nevertheless, the moral burden of supporting capital punishment is not one that I am willing to assume. So, if people continue to be executed, it will not be because I supported it. By the way, Alan and Loretta, I hope you realize that I hold you personally in the greatest respect. So, let's just agree to disagree. :-) Will, T2 >So, let's just agree to disagree. Agreed:-) Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>So, let's just agree to disagree. > >Agreed:-) This is usenet, and therefor agreement is against the rules. :-) >>>So, let's just agree to disagree. >> >>Agreed:-) > >This is usenet, and therefor agreement is against the rules. :-) No it's not! SignaturePeter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com >>>So, let's just agree to disagree. >> >>Agreed:-) > >This is usenet, and therefor agreement is against the rules. :-) I agree, SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. > >So, let's just agree to disagree. > >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I agree, What's for dinner? I'll have some of what he's having.. Do you smoke it, or do you eat it? Rub it on? And now... for something completely different! Will, T2 >> >So, let's just agree to disagree. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Will, T2 actually tonight's menu is Grilled lobster tails, T-bones, grilled veggie skewers, fresh baked bread, cheesecake and brandied pears. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. > actually tonight's menu is Grilled lobster tails, T-bones, grilled > veggie skewers, fresh baked bread, cheesecake and brandied pears. Sounds really good, Mack, but I would have to take it easy on the bread, cheesecake, and brandied pears... I do allow myself a moderate taste of those things, sometimes, though..:-) As I recall, you live about 10 min away, by super slab? Will, T2 >> actually tonight's menu is Grilled lobster tails, T-bones, grilled >> veggie skewers, fresh baked bread, cheesecake and brandied pears. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Will, T2 oy, this is day 2 of my 2 week vacation. my other half is taking today off and the dinner is part of special day and evening together. should have been clear about that, don't want to start any rumors here in the group. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. > oy, this is day 2 of my 2 week vacation. my other half is taking > today off and the dinner is part of special day and evening together. > should have been clear about that, don't want to start any rumors here > in the group. Sounds like a nice evening.... It never occurred to me that anyone would think I was inviting myself over. Anyway, please let us know how that good-sounding menu turns out! I hope you have a really memorable evening. Will, T2 We should all show up. ;-) -- Cheri wmmckee@cox.net wrote in message ... >Sounds like a nice evening.... It never occurred to me that anyone would >think I was inviting myself over. >We should all show up. ;-) give me enough time to borrow the neighbor's rottweiler. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. LOL. Hope you have a great time. :-) -- Cheri Ma¢k wrote in message ... >>We should all show up. ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Jesus never hated anyone. Mack is also a type 1. :-) -- Cheri wmmckee@cox.net wrote in message ... >> actually tonight's menu is Grilled lobster tails, T-bones, grilled >> veggie skewers, fresh baked bread, cheesecake and brandied pears. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Will, T2 >>Will, I have to disaree with you. Killer the killer does accomplish >>something, It gives some closure to the victims families and the killer >>never takes another breath to eat three squares a day. > >And never commits another crime. It has indeed been shown that the recidivism rate in criminals for the executed is lower than for the non-executed. However, I think it cost the government a few million for the study. >>Will, I have to disaree with you. Killer the killer does accomplish >>something, It gives some closure to the victims families and the killer [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. If life without parole meant life without parole, the criminal wouldn't ever perpetrate a crime against the public either. Sleepy _______________________________________________________ The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak. -Hans Hofmann, painter (1880-1966) _______________________________________________________ >>>Will, I have to disaree with you. Killer the killer does accomplish >>>something, It gives some closure to the victims families and the killer [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Sleepy that's not true. gangs and crime families rule from prisons. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. >Please, Will, if someone attacked someone you love, are you telling me >that you are not going to hate the perp. It is so easy for us who are >not affected to be a pollyanna, I hope I am never in the position of >having to deal with that situation I am no pollyanna, believe me. There are emotional, and intellectual responses. Emotionally yes, I would want to string em up myself. Intellectually I know it accomplishes nothing other then vengeance. A society that bases everything on emotional vengeance is not the type of society most of us would want to live in. When emotions are laws, not the intellect, we all suffer eventually. Sleepy _______________________________________________________ The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak. -Hans Hofmann, painter (1880-1966) _______________________________________________________ >>Ronetta@webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote in news:26974-43D2C9DC-235 >>@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net: [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > Will, T2 I agree. But today I'm going to execute a couple of NY strips on a grill and make a promise to the Gods to try to stick to the subject. (Will, given your lifes work, how long did you bite your lip? (big s---- eating grin).) I try to stay out of the more political debates. I only wanted to interject that the inmate whose execution started this whole thread was given the sentence for ordering killings while he was IN jail. I'm not sure what he was doing there in the first place, but the ultimate penalty was set down for ordering killings from a prison cell. Chief, I come from the school of an eye for an eye and you give what you get and you get what you give. Thank goodness we live in a country where we can have a difference of opinion and are able to express it. I respect your opinion even if I dont agree. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. Ronetta@webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote in news:8640-43D39CC6-2414 @storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net: > Chief, I come from the school of an eye for an eye and you give what you > get and you get what you give. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. I agree - the world would be as bland as my diet without difference. There is respect here also. I posted the article mostly because he was a perfect example of poor management of diabetes. Lost eye sight, lost hearing, lost limbs, and a heart attack. This guy if he wasn't a criminal would be the perfecty poster boy for ASD :) >Chief, I come from the school of an eye for an eye and you give what you >get and you get what you give. Mohandas K Gandhi was right. "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" Sleepy _______________________________________________________ The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak. -Hans Hofmann, painter (1880-1966) _______________________________________________________ >Ronetta@webtv.net (Loretta Eisenberg) wrote in news:26974-43D2C9DC-235 >@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >Why would anyone want to coddle the murderer and give him the 'easy way >out'? No death penalty = no death row, = no $800,000 extra expense. No death penalty appeals either. Sleepy _______________________________________________________ The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak. -Hans Hofmann, painter (1880-1966) _______________________________________________________ >Chief, it doesnt bother me at all. Ask his victims families how they >feel. He wasnt so old when he did the crime, Unfortunately, the appeal [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Loretta Ask the victim's families if the death penalty brought the victims back to life. If there was no death penalty there would be no appeals of it, so that argument goes right down the drain. The death penalty is nothing but revenge, pure and simple. Sleepy _______________________________________________________ The ability to simplify means to eliminate the unnecessary so that the necessary may speak. -Hans Hofmann, painter (1880-1966) _______________________________________________________ > am not on insulin, but when I get a low in the 60's or lo 70's I drink a > half a juice glass of orange juice and follow that a few minutes later [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Wendy I find a little cranberry juice (2-4 oz.) helps, or maybe an Oreo cookie.... Also a bite or two of dark chocolate will help, too. I had a bad experience with Orange Juice one time, though, so I to afraid of that stuff to try it again. Just some thoughts.... Sometimes, I get down in the 60's or low 70's, too, Wendy. The headache is usually the tip off. Will, T2 > If I tok a whole juice glass(4-5 oz) I would go too > high. a 60-70's low is not extreme, like the 30-40's we her about in the > group, so it doesn't need as extreme a solution. > Wendy Hi--- Odd, how low Bg affects each of us differently. At 70, I don't feel good at all. The shakes are just starting in my arms and my brain is a bit fuzzy. At 60, I get severe shaky all over and my legs turn to rubber. Brain fuzzy is very strong. I manage to get into the kitchen to get something, cause I keep my glucose tablets in a belly bag that I use when I'm out. But, have you seen the Russian Cossack Dancers, where their knees are way down, and they kind of dance real close to the floor? Well, that's me getting to the kitchen with a hypo. Just add the shakes to it. :-) Speaking of shakes, I'm getting more and more , an extreme desire for a burger King or McDonald's Strawberry Shake. I have even dreamed about it. Best--- 'Tis Himself Ron, a Scot T2 since about 1990 Metformin 1000/Day (2000/Day made me very nauseous so had to go down) Avandia 8 Mg/Day 12 U. Lantus/Day 12 to 15 U. Novalog w/meals Hbaic down from 9.2 to 7 and working on it Practice safe eating. Always use condiments. <snippage> >Speaking of shakes, I'm getting more and more , an extreme desire for a >burger King or McDonald's Strawberry Shake. I have even dreamed about it. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Practice safe eating. Always use condiments. Ron, would you settle for a strawberry yogurt smoothie? >Speaking of shakes, I'm getting more and more , an extreme desire for a >burger King or McDonald's Strawberry Shake. I have even dreamed about it. Erk! To me, those always tasted a bit like plastic. However, I do have a possible answer for you, that might satisfy your craving; Get bryers low-carb ice cream, and use it to make a milkshake. You can cut the carbs even further by using Hoods Carb countdown in place of milk. >>Speaking of shakes, I'm getting more and more , an extreme desire for a >>burger King or McDonald's Strawberry Shake. I have even dreamed about it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >milkshake. You can cut the carbs even further by using Hoods Carb >countdown in place of milk. Breyers low carb ice cream is really, really yummy! And, for me, all it takes is a very small amount to be happy. Will, T2 >>>Speaking of shakes, I'm getting more and more , an extreme desire for a >>>burger King or McDonald's Strawberry Shake. I have even dreamed about it. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Breyers low carb ice cream is really, really yummy! And, for me, all >it takes is a very small amount to be happy. I've had it a few times since my Diagnosis. It does seem BG friendly for me. It is, indeed, yummy. The carton I have is actually left over from before my diagnosis, as I was buying it for the taste. The only problem I've found with it is that after a few months in a partially empty carton, it becomes rather leathery. I've found it lasts longer if I put the carton in a sealed ziplock bag. > I just had an interesting period. My Bg decided to go nuts. I caught it >going thru 63 and drank a small glass of OJ which sent it up to 176 when I >took 5 units of Novolog and now it's at 93 right this second and I have no >idea if it's going lower. Wonder what's causing this? I wasn't eating or >stressing or exercising or nothing. Weird. Seems like old home week... Some of my favorite people on here having a nice chummy time. How are you guys tonight? Gene, I hope you are OK... Dave and Mary are great folks to chat with, as I am sure you know. They know about insulin dependency... I'm sure my time will come. Will, T2 > I just had an interesting period. My Bg decided to go nuts. I caught it >going thru 63 and drank a small glass of OJ which sent it up to 176 when I >took 5 units of Novolog and now it's at 93 right this second and I have no >idea if it's going lower. Wonder what's causing this? I wasn't eating or >stressing or exercising or nothing. Weird. OK, I'm just making some wild guesses here, so take with a huge grain of salt, but some thoughts occur to me: You were going low, and the liver often acts on it's own to correct that by dumping glycogen into the blood. This is the normal bodily first reaction to low BG's. Here in ASD we call this a liver dump. OK, so, is it possible that your liver decided to do this right about the time you gulped the OJ? If so, that might well explain the BG spike. Could your carb ratio be improving, thus triggering the low? If so, beware of the roller-coaster! Shooting a corrective bolus can push you low again, starting the whole cycle over. How has it been since this incident? Also, could you be coming down with a cold or some other illness? When i had a cold in November, my first warning was my BG's going a little out of whack. The was about 18 hours before the normal symptoms showed up. Good luck, Chief, and keep us posted! >> I just had an interesting period. My Bg decided to go nuts. I caught >> it [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > out of whack. The was about 18 hours before the normal symptoms showed > up. > Good luck, Chief, and keep us posted! Not sick - feel fine. I did notice the weirdest headache when my Bg was low. It was the top rear of my head that ached. Never had one there before. Finally, got it all settled down. I'm pretty sure I'm going through another change in how well I react to insulin. 5 units was dropping the Bg about 50mg this time it dropped it almost 90mg. that's a big change. The only Novolog I took all day was the 5 units for the spike. So it was the Lantis that must be to much. I'm going to drop the Lantis to 9 units for three days and see how it goes. >Not sick - feel fine. Don't worry, there are plenty of ways to cure that particular problem... >I did notice the weirdest headache when my Bg was low. It was the top >rear of my head that ached. Never had one there before. I've heard that hypos can cause headaches. When I had a few false hypos, I didn't get headaches, just a very low but agitated feeling, and mental fogginess.. However, I have had headaches ever since my late teens, just minor ones that went away with aspirin. I had them once or twice a month on average. However, since DX, I haven't had one at all, not even from long drives (which was often the case before). >Finally, got it all settled down. I'm pretty sure I'm going through >another change in how well I react to insulin. 5 units was dropping the >Bg about 50mg this time it dropped it almost 90mg. that's a big change. That is a big change... Perhaps you are just getting a better carb ratio? If so, IMHO that's a good sign. >The only Novolog I took all day was the 5 units for the spike. So it was >the Lantis that must be to much. >I'm going to drop the Lantis to 9 units for three days and see how it >goes. How is it going so far? >>Not sick - feel fine. > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > How is it going so far? Been good all day. Just slept alot. I drop the Lantus to 9 but I won't really know if that's ok for a day or two. It's back to normal pretty much. I used a whole 4 units of Novolog today for one large meal of Salmon steak, green beans and cabbage. Other than that I spent the whole day doing jack. Thanks for asking - and good nite again. >>>Not sick - feel fine. >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >It's back to normal pretty much. I used a whole 4 units of Novolog today >for one large meal of Salmon steak, green beans and cabbage. I imagine you are somewhere between a defined T2 and a T1. Do you walk after meals? If I can't walk, I will spike and will have to use novolog to drop the spike. You are begining to see that this is a very nasty and unpredictable disease. _____________________________________________ http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/ Free >>>>Not sick - feel fine. >>> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > _____________________________________________ > http://www.healthdiabeticsoftware.com/ Free Sometimes I don't do anything - sometimes I walk. The Bg's seem to hold fairly low as long as I keep the carbs to 30grams or less. But I see your point about the nasty and unpredictable. Hi Chief: > Been good all day. Just slept alot. I drop the Lantus to 9 but I won't > really know if that's ok for a day or two. > > It's back to normal pretty much. I used a whole 4 units of Novolog today > for one large meal of Salmon steak, green beans and cabbage. That was nearly a no carb meal. It may have had a large amount of calories. You do not seem to have a lot of insulin resistance for a T2 given the amount of basal insulin you are using. Your earlier doses (a few months back) may have been necessary in order to reduce glucotoxicity. It sure does look like you are still in a big adjustment phase. Old Al mentioned that 4 units of Novolog would move his BG to a lower level than what it seems to be doing in you. Old Al is/was a LADA and it took him a few years to lose his own insulin production. It isn't clear what type of diabetes that you have. It does seem like you do have a good doctor. Frank > Hi Chief: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Frank The dac stuck to a T1.5 until I asked him to pick 1 or 2 and then he picked T2. I'm really confused about the whole choice thing. I'm thinking of saying |
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