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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / January 2006no control, need help
I do not intend to make this sound like a pity party, so please don't take it that way. I know my requests will sound very simplistic to a lot of you out there, but I need the help. I was diagnosed approximately 7 years ago. With meds and consistant care by my doctor, I have been able to keep my readings in check. About 1 1/2 years ago, we lost our health insurance. Things have been very tight since then, and I haven't been back to the doctor or on my meds for about 1 year. Over the past 6 months, my morning fasting reading has been about 315. I have on occasion been able to get it down so 270-280, but that has been about it. I feel the difference in my attitude, my body, my energy level and other aspects of my well being. My vision has become noticably blurry as well. I am absolutely scared to death! As dumb as it sounds, I have read different books on diabetic eating habits, but find it very hard to maintain those practices. I either end up "starving" myself and/or get very grumpy as I don't get enough to eat. This causes me to go back to eating in ways that aren't healthy, but that I think my body is "accustom" to. I need help in a couple of areas. 1) can anyone recommend eating habits/foods(other than going to the doctor, which I know I need to do regardless) that might help me rapidly get my BG down? 2) can anyone recommend a general pattern/habit of eating (types of foods) that I can follow to keep the readings down? I realize that even if what i'm asking works, I might be in the posession where I need meds. I just need to get started doing something before I end up killing myself with all of the possible complications that I am setting myself up for. Once again, I would appreciate any constructive advice that could be offered. Thanks! > I do not intend to make this sound like a pity party, so please don't > take it that way. I know my requests will sound very simplistic to a [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Thanks! so you are a T2 w/o meds? that's a ticket to either an early grave like my friend, or complications, THEN an early grave. You need to take meds or insulin; you can't just starve yourself. Dave > I do not intend to make this sound like a pity party, so please don't > take it that way. I know my requests will sound very simplistic to a [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Thanks! Hi, Eric, Sounds as if you're in a tough position, but it will only get worse until you take control of your blood glucose and your access to medical care. The most important thing you need to do is see a physician. Did you call your former doc's office to explain your situation and see if they'll accommodate your lower budget? If so, the doc should also be able to help you with drug samples and a referral to an asssistance program by the drug manufacturers for folks who can't afford to buy meds. Do you have a county health clinic system where you live, or other public health clinics? There can be very long waits for these, but it may be expedited if you reach a nurse/screener and tell them about your bg. Finally, blurred vision and numbers as high as yours require an ER visit if none of the above pans out; ER staff can refer you to a hospital social worker who should help you with referrals or at least a list of low cost or free medical resources. You may qualify for emergency Medicaid or regular Medicaid, depending on local eligibility standards. If you're able to afford the strips for your meter, I'd suggest testing just before you eat and one hour after you eat to see which foods raise your bg the most. Try doing this after eliminating starches, fruits and other carbs that you may be able to handle some of later with proper treatment. You say your bg was under control with meds and doctor visits; what about careful diet and exercise? These are the two most important things you can do that cost nothing extra and pay you back in spades. Before you do anything, though, you must seek medical attention. Sorry you're having such a rough time of it right now. Susan It doesn't sound like a pity party Eric. It sounds like you're trying to find answers, unfortunately what works for one, might now work for another. I do lowered carb, with lots of LC veggies, like zucchini, spinach, broccoli, etc. I do eat a couple of slices of LC bread now and then, as well as a serving of popcorn occasionally, but mostly I eat meat, fish, eggs, cheese, cottage cheese, a few nuts and seeds, and things like that with lots of salads. I use flaxseed for cereal. I am not a doctor and am not offering medical advice, or suggesting a diet, I'm just telling you what I eat. I'm sure Jennifer will be along with her advice. I think it's a great place to start. Good luck. -- Cheri Eric wrote in message <1136503645.521050.326530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>... >I do not intend to make this sound like a pity party, so please don't >take it that way. I know my requests will sound very simplistic to a [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >Thanks! Hi Cheri, I 've been making pancakes out of ground flax seed. The other day I tried cooking the whole flax seed in boiling water. I got a very slimy cereal that tasted OK but the texture was revolting. Did I cook it too long? Any advice appreciated. > It doesn't sound like a pity party Eric. It sounds like you're trying to > find answers, unfortunately what works for one, might now work for [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> >>Thanks! I know boiling water will make it slimey and after trial and error, I was told to never put boiling water on it. You know how nasty that is now. I just grind up the flax seed, add a little artifical sweetener, some cinnamon sometimes, then add hot water to the bowl to the desired consistency. I think it's great. I make pancakes once in awhile too, and I like them as well. -- Cheri Uncle Enrico wrote in message ... >Hi Cheri, >I 've been making pancakes out of ground flax seed. [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] >>> >>>Thanks! > Hi Cheri, > I 've been making pancakes out of ground flax seed. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Any advice appreciated. Don't cook it; add boiling water to ground flax seeds and let it sit a few minutes. Susan I tried adding boiling water once, but it did make it slimey. I think it was Lee Rogers who told me to never add boiling water, or microwave it. Just add hot tap water. It works for me, but others might have better luck with the boiling water. -- Cheri >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Susan Eric, try these news groups for additional help and some very good diet advice and tasty cheap recipes: alt.food.diabetic alt support.diet.low-carb misc.health.diabetes notice the different spelling of diabet(ic or es) Very best of luck, don't give up, hang in there. 73 Gary > I need help in a couple of areas. 1) can anyone recommend eating > habits/foods(other than going to the doctor, which I know I need to do > regardless) that might help me rapidly get my BG down? 2) can anyone > recommend a general pattern/habit of eating (types of foods) that I can > follow to keep the readings down? YES!!!! Cut the carbs. If you were given a low fat diabetes diet, it is no surprise you couldn't stick to it, as it probably was full of bread pasta and sugary fruits and juices that raise your blood sugar further and cause hunger. Cut out bread, pasta, and potatoes. Eat green vegetables, berries, cheese, eggs, and non-fast food meats. The book "Protein Power" can help you figure out what are reasonable portions of other foods that won't raise your blood sugar so much. http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm explains how to use your meter to see how the carbohydrates in various foods affect your blood sugar so you can keep the ones that work for you and get rid of the ones that are ruining your health. Not having insurance sucks. Not having a lot of money for food sucks too, but if you "shop the edges" of the supermarket and avoid prepared foods and construct your diet with nonstarchy vegetables (frozen from the warehouse store works) economy meats which you cook in a crockpot with spices for flavor, and inexpensive cheese you can do a low carb diet very successfully. The "low carb" products are very expensive and not at all necessary for the kind of control you are looking for. There's lots of people who have had blood sugars as high as yours who have brought them down using diet alone. I have met several in person. So don't despair. It is DOABLE. And stick around for support. That is what this group is for. If you get what doesn't feel like support from one or two compassion-challenged people who occasionally post hostile messages here, just killfile them or if you can't don't read their posts. > I realize that even if what i'm asking works, I might be in the > posession where I need meds. I just need to get started doing [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks!  Signature--Jenny http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u Diabetes Info http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/newlydiagnosed.htm Get Your Blood Sugar Under Control >> I need help in a couple of areas. 1) can anyone recommend eating >> habits/foods(other than going to the doctor, which I know I need to do [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> >> Thanks! ah, just LIVING will provide high blood sugar. That's why starvation didn't work before insulin. People wasted away under doctors orders. The OP needs more than a MENU! Dave >>> I need help in a couple of areas. 1) can anyone recommend eating >>> habits/foods(other than going to the doctor, which I know I need to do >>> regardless) that might help me rapidly get my BG down? 2) can anyone >>> recommend a general pattern/habit of eating (types of foods) that I can >>> follow to keep the readings down? Friend, you are just a whisper away from an emergency situation..... I know... I had very blurry vision and all the rest of it.... Hie thyself to a competent doctor! ASAP! Sure, we know lots of things to eat and not eat, and what not, but you need to take action NOW! Unless I missed it, you have not even told us whether you are a T1, or a T2. From the sound of it, I might imagine you were an emerging T1, meaning that your pancreas, with its islet beta cells does not produce enough insulin. If that be the case, no dietary observances will serve to help you in a really material way. If you are a T2, you may have reached the point where you may want to consider insulin, as it sounds like your ability to transport insulin through your cell walls to where it is needed is seriously impaired. Also, there is some substantial evidence that for T2's, the beta cells in the pancreas become exhausted, or outright die, in which case it does not matter what they call you.... YOU may be INSULIN DEPENDENT>\\!!!! Please take heed, while there is still time! I know I speak for all my friends in this group in wishing you well... Thanks for letting us know of your plight, and of course, we would be very interested in what you may be able to do to address your immediate crisis. Very truly yours, Will, T2 the OP said, "I was diagnosed approximately 7 years ago. With meds and consistant care by my doctor, I have been able to keep my readings in check." I'd assume they were a T2, since they were dx'd 7yrs ago. Most T1's state they're on insulin for some strange reason, while T2's often say "meds" -- just my observation. ---- RK, T1/pumper/Animas IR1250 Dx 5/2000 - Joined ASD 8/2000 Last A1C - 12.05 (6.3) No diabetic complications to date | >>> I need help in a couple of areas. 1) can anyone recommend eating | >>> habits/foods(other than going to the doctor, which I know I need to do [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] | | Will, T2 > ah, just LIVING will provide high blood sugar. That's why starvation > didn't work before insulin. People wasted away under doctors orders. The > OP needs more than a MENU! That depends how far down the diabetic progression he is. If he's lucky, he can get his numbers down to normal following Jenny's advice. After 7 years, he may not be lucky enough. Nicky. SignatureA1c 10.5/5.6/<6 T2 DX 05/2004 1g Metformin, 100ug Thyroxine 95/73/72Kg >> I need help in a couple of areas. 1) can anyone recommend eating >> habits/foods(other than going to the doctor, which I know I need to do [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> >> Thanks! What Jenny said goes DOUBLE for me! Please, take action now! Next to denial, its cousin, postponement, is the worst enemy...... Will, T2 Please get medical help immediately. You need meds or insulin. A friend of ours just passed away from uncontrolled bgs--was considered a T2, but was given insulin after many years. His bgs were still as yours are--he suffered heart attacks, amputation, kidney failure, and finally opted for death for relief. He had been warned about the dangers of high blood sugars, but didn't heed the warning. How sad for him, in his first years of retirement, and for his faithful wife who is now alone. And all his friends are sad also... Mary > I do not intend to make this sound like a pity party, so please don't > take it that way. I know my requests will sound very simplistic to a [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Thanks! |
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