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Diana - 04 Jan 2006 00:51 GMT
Just want to say thank you to everyone who helped me this last seven years.
You ALL are wonderful. I dearly love you all and each have a very special
place in my heart.

That being said...I called for my lab work and this is all they told me and
then the numbers I got I had to ask for as they just kept saying it was
"good"

Liver Panel...good
Thyroid...good
HbA1c ...  9.4
for someone they told me three months ago I was in the beginning of renal
failure...this is what my blood work showed... BUN  14
last time it was 20 and according to lab values the 14 is great.  What I
think is I had a kidney infection and the month of antibiotics I was on for
my teeth helped that and now they are good again.

So there ya have it...thanks if you have read this after my emotional
outburst once again.

Oh yeah...

Our disabled van for people that are elderly and disabled like me is only
for my County not the one where my doctor and the endo is. It does not go
outside my county.

Cab service would be 100 dollars round trip to the doctor and the endo.

Bus service is not in my area. It is 45 minutes away and you park and catch
the Metro.

Reisa , I appreciate your kindness but I can not and will not have you come
here to take me to a doctor when your are in just as much physical pain or
more than me even. You are a good woman and I won't use your kindness like
that. I am not home so please don't take the chance and come here as I have
not moved into the new home yet. However when I do I would love to have you
as a guest and have lunch with you and even swim with you this summer. That
would be really fun.

I have lost all my pride, self worth and everything because of this disease
and yes Loretta it has won. I can't help how I feel. It is not a pity party
it is a fact that I feel I am too old to care now. My youth , looks and
everything is gone. Please do not bring my past to the group. The things I
told you were in confidence. I know you mean well and I do appreciate the
help you have given me time and time again. You have alot to deal with your
own self and your selflessness has not gone un-noticed.

Now if after reading all this if someone call tell me what an endo can do
that no other doctor can do and I understand I may go to one, however I
still feel it is up to me. If I don't comply then no one not even the best
specialist in the world can help me. It is up to me now and any one who
wants to be a support system for the long haul.

Thanks again for reading and forgive my candor but things needed to be said.

Love and Hugs to all of you from my heart of hearts.
Grandpa Chuck - 04 Jan 2006 01:03 GMT
Thank you for posting this dear friend.

I will be interested to see what others have to say about what an Endo
can do for you that your doctor cannot do if he/she keeps up to date
on the latest treatments of diabetes.

I think you have read my posts that there are no Endos in or near
Cedar Rapids. My doctor is a GP, but from what I have seen he makes
every effort to stay on top of the latest information about our
disease.

I hope you depression lessens as the days start getting longer.

Take care and be well.

>Just want to say thank you to everyone who helped me this last seven years.
>You ALL are wonderful. I dearly love you all and each have a very special
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>
>Love and Hugs to all of you from my heart of hearts.

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The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 1, 2006 is 2,180.
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according to President Bush - probably much, much more.

Cheri - 04 Jan 2006 01:08 GMT
I wouldn't know either, since I've never been to an endo for my
diabetes. I did see one for the pain in my side last year. The pain is
still there off and on, and I suspect the diabetes would still be there
too, even if I did see him again. LOL

--
Cheri

Grandpa Chuck > wrote in message ...

>I will be interested to see what others have to say about what an Endo
>can do for you that your doctor cannot do if he/she keeps up to date
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>every effort to stay on top of the latest information about our
>disease.
Diana - 04 Jan 2006 01:16 GMT
> I wouldn't know either, since I've never been to an endo for my
> diabetes. I did see one for the pain in my side last year. The pain is
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> >every effort to stay on top of the latest information about our
> >disease.

Cheri you are too cute . You always bring a smile to me. Yep no matter what
I do either or who I go see this diabetes is here to slap me right in the
mouth every time .
Diana - 04 Jan 2006 01:12 GMT
> Thank you for posting this dear friend.
>
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> >
> >Love and Hugs to all of you from my heart of hearts.

Thanks Chuck, I hope this depression lessens too. Thank you for being so
kind and good to me. You are a dear friend. My doctor is a GP also as I left
an Internist just to go to this one as I heard so many good things about him
plus I knew him from when I worked as a secretary at the hospital.
RK - 04 Jan 2006 02:06 GMT
ok heres the deal... CALL me or starting tomorrow lol I
sit on your doorstep and wait for you too move in.. granted
we've been having nice warmer weather lol but it's raining
and damnit! I might just melt... so.. CALL ME! pweez :-)

and I'd love to come have lunch and go for a swim...

----
RK, T1/pumper/Animas IR1250
Dx 5/2000 - Joined ASD 8/2000
Last A1C - 12.05 (6.3)
No diabetic complications to date
| Just want to say thank you to everyone who helped me this last seven years.
| You ALL are wonderful. I dearly love you all and each have a very special
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|
| Love and Hugs to all of you from my heart of hearts.
Diana - 04 Jan 2006 03:11 GMT
> ok heres the deal... CALL me or starting tomorrow lol I
> sit on your doorstep and wait for you too move in.. granted
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> |
> | Love and Hugs to all of you from my heart of hearts.

I promise to call you when we are moved completely in and it is a date. You
come swim with me this summer all you want. Hubby went out and bought me
salad makins and I don't use anything but balsamic vinegar as dressing and
it has 3 carbs per tbsp and that is all I would use of it anyways,  and
stuff I can eat to lose weight so tomorrow will be a new day for me. I will
call my insurance company and see if there is someone closer I can go to. Is
that good? :-)
RK - 04 Jan 2006 03:18 GMT
| I promise to call you when we are moved completely in and it is a date. You
| come swim with me this summer all you want. Hubby went out and bought me
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| call my insurance company and see if there is someone closer I can go to. Is
| that good? :-)

NO! thats not good, that's GREAT!

Okay, but call me anyhow, I don't know where the email went with ur
number on it, only have the house #... and lol Nexy ate my cell (damn dog!)
So, when I changed my memory card, I lost half my numbers in there -- just
send me another email, I'll call instead, don't matter...

it's a totally different issue I wanna talk to u abt pls.

Reisa
Diana - 04 Jan 2006 03:27 GMT
> | I promise to call you when we are moved completely in and it is a date.
> You
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>
> Reisa

I can call but have to do it when I get home away from all the noise and
distractions. I go there a couple times to check things and stuff and will
get your number from my email there.
RK - 04 Jan 2006 03:30 GMT
| > | I promise to call you when we are moved completely in and it is a date.
| > You
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| dog!)
| > So, when I changed my memory card, I lost half my numbers in there --  
just
| > send me another email, I'll call instead, don't matter...
| >
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| distractions. I go there a couple times to check things and stuff and will
| get your number from my email there.

err well dang, kill all my fun why don'tcha lol... ok -- call the cell,
works
better for me pls.

Reisa
Cheri - 04 Jan 2006 03:53 GMT
OK, here's the deal. I'll pay for the gas both ways, as well as a swell
lunch for you girls. E-mail me, and go for it. :-)

--
Cheri

Diana wrote in message ...

>> ok heres the deal... CALL me or starting tomorrow lol I
>> sit on your doorstep and wait for you too move in.. granted
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>call my insurance company and see if there is someone closer I can go to. Is
>that good? :-)
RK - 04 Jan 2006 12:53 GMT
That's very nice of you Cheri.

LOL heck you'd be getting a good deal here..
Gas right now is only $2.09 a gallon where i'm
at.  Last weekend it was $1.89!!

but gas money isn't a issue for me.. nor is driving.

----
RK, T1/pumper/Animas IR1250
Dx 5/2000 - Joined ASD 8/2000
Last A1C - 12.05 (6.3)
No diabetic complications to date
| OK, here's the deal. I'll pay for the gas both ways, as well as a swell
| lunch for you girls. E-mail me, and go for it. :-)
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| to. Is
| >that good? :-)
Loretta Eisenberg - 04 Jan 2006 14:11 GMT
Reisa and to think we use the words 2.09 a gallon and a good deal in one
breath. lol

Cheri we can all meet and go for a swim and have a good lunch. :-)

Loretta

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Cheri - 04 Jan 2006 17:03 GMT
Wouldn't that be grand? I'd love to meet all of you gals. :-)

--
Cheri

Loretta Eisenberg wrote in message
<5852-43BBD789-256@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>...
Reisa and to think we use the words 2.09 a gallon and a good deal in one
breath. lol

Cheri we can all meet and go for a swim and have a good lunch. :-)

Loretta

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of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
Cheri - 04 Jan 2006 17:02 GMT
Email me with your address Reisa. I will be very happy to contribute to
getting Di to the endo, more than happy in fact. :-)

--
Cheri

RK wrote in message ...

>That's very nice of you Cheri.
>
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>| to. Is
>| >that good? :-)
Kurt - 04 Jan 2006 02:38 GMT
> Just want to say thank you to everyone who helped me this last seven years.
> You ALL are wonderful. I dearly love you all and each have a very special
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
>
> Love and Hugs to all of you from my heart of hearts.

I'll address a couple of things:

Obviously you know your a1c is way too high.  That ties into my other
point, addressing your question "What an endo can do?"  An endo who
specializes in diabetes treatment can cut through all the guess work
and conjecture to focus on why your bg is too high.  In addition, he or
she can offer specific solutions and current technology to help you
bring that number down.  Motivation is always key, but often times
patients lose motivation when things aren't working for them.  And most
importantly, seeing someone new, and especially someone with expertise
beyond the original doctor, gives a fresh perspective to an ongoing
problem. The phrase "The rest is up to you" is not really a good one
for someone who suffers from a chronic disease, it should be "The rest
is up to you and your support team."  That team involves your doctor,
your endo, and your friends.

At the risk of sounding corny...The past is the past, today is a new
day that sprouts a fresh start.  

Best,
Kurt
Diana - 04 Jan 2006 03:14 GMT
> > Just want to say thank you to everyone who helped me this last seven years.
> > You ALL are wonderful. I dearly love you all and each have a very special
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> Best,
> Kurt

You don't sound korny at all Kurt. You sound very honest and supportive.
Thank you for explaining it. The one endo I did go see wanted me to attend
classes and I could not do that the three times a week he wanted as hubby is
a trucker and works long odd hours. Anyways thank you and I will keep
researching and also call my insurance company to check on someone a tad
closer.
Lindy - 04 Jan 2006 12:39 GMT
Diana said:

>The one endo I did go see wanted me to attend
> classes and I could not do that the three times a week he wanted as hubby
is a trucker and works long odd hours.

But it's not 3 times a week forever.  I highly recommend classes.  Years ago
my Endo stuck me in the hospital for 3 days to get me regulated and those 3
days included time with a nutritionist and diabetic educator.  It wasn't a
matter of just being stuck in a bed the whole time.  I learned a lot of info
during that whole thing, was given a pop-quiz each morning to see how well I
understood what they had taught me (felt like I was a kid in school again!)
and it was the best thing I could have ever done as I came away with a whole
new perspective.  It felt wonderful to feel like I had some control once
again over this damn disease.

  ~Lindy~ Type 1 since 1960, pumping since 1997
Loretta Eisenberg - 04 Jan 2006 14:08 GMT
I like the tone of your post to Reisa, Diana,   It has optimism in it.
Where is my invitation to swim and lunch. lol

Loretta

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of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
Grandpa Chuck - 04 Jan 2006 16:43 GMT
>I like the tone of your post to Reisa, Diana,   It has optimism in it.
>Where is my invitation to swim and lunch. lol
>
>Loretta

Don't know where Diana is, but a pool party sounds like fun to me and
the only thing that keeps me afloat is my excess girth since I never
learned to swim.

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The following information is given with the utmost respect
for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the
current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/
The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 1, 2006 is 2,182.
United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103  Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000
according to President Bush - probably much, much more.

Cheri - 04 Jan 2006 16:59 GMT
That surprises me. An Iowa boy who doesn't know how to swim? :-)

--
Cheri

Grandpa Chuck > wrote in message ...

>>I like the tone of your post to Reisa, Diana,   It has optimism in it.
>>Where is my invitation to swim and lunch. lol
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>United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103  Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000
>according to President Bush - probably much, much more.
Grandpa Chuck - 04 Jan 2006 17:19 GMT
>That surprises me. An Iowa boy who doesn't know how to swim? :-)

LOL

Actually I know a lot of people around here who never learned to swim.
When I was a kid you either had to go to the YMCA or wait till summer
and hope you could get into to one of the classes held at the city
pools every summer. I spent every summer on my grandparents' farm so
couldn't do that. I went to the classes at the YMCA once. Even at age
nine it really bothered me that we were not allowed to wear anything
in the pool or pool area. I just didn't feel comfortable. Still
wouldn't for that matter.

My three cousins who are all around my age did learn by their dad
"throwing" them into the river. Actually, he was in the water with
them and taught them how to breath and to not be afraid. I always kind
of envied those three boys for that. Relatives used to tell me what a
great swimmer my daddy had been, but none of them took the time to
teach me. My daddy died in February of '43 when I was only 2 1/2 years
old.

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for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the
current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/
The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 1, 2006 is 2,182.
United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103  Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000
according to President Bush - probably much, much more.

Cheri - 04 Jan 2006 17:31 GMT
I come from a long line of Sioux City people, and the rivers and
swimming was just about their only pastime. :-)

--
Cheri

Grandpa Chuck > wrote in message ...

>>That surprises me. An Iowa boy who doesn't know how to swim? :-)
>
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>United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103  Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000
>according to President Bush - probably much, much more.
Grandpa Chuck - 04 Jan 2006 18:59 GMT
>I come from a long line of Sioux City people, and the rivers and
>swimming was just about their only pastime. :-)

With all those kids they must have had at least one other pastime. ;-)

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for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the
current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/
The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 1, 2006 is 2,182.
United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103  Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000
according to President Bush - probably much, much more.

Cheri - 04 Jan 2006 20:03 GMT
LOL, true, but you know those Sioux City people NEVER talked about
things like that. ;)

--
Cheri

Grandpa Chuck > wrote in message ...

>>I come from a long line of Sioux City people, and the rivers and
>>swimming was just about their only pastime. :-)
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103  Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000
>according to President Bush - probably much, much more.
Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Jan 2006 01:03 GMT
Gee, chuck  it is hard to imagine someone not swimming in an ocean.  I
live a block off the beach.  I havent been in the ocean since Jaws but I
am glad to know it is there.  I dont think of anyone not having a beach.
I guess I have been taking it for granted.

Loretta

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of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
RK - 05 Jan 2006 01:37 GMT
Now what's funny, is the folks here in Ohio say
they go to the beach.. Danni and look at each other
theres NO beach near here.  Finally we got the guts
up to ask where the beach was. LMAO, they go to
"Lake Erie" or "Lake Michigan" -- both a far cry from
a beach for me.

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RK, T1/pumper/Animas IR1250
Dx 5/2000 - Joined ASD 8/2000
Last A1C - 12.05 (6.3)
No diabetic complications to date
| Gee, chuck  it is hard to imagine someone not swimming in an ocean.  I
| live a block off the beach.  I havent been in the ocean since Jaws but I
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
| of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
| terrorism.
Grandpa Chuck - 05 Jan 2006 01:47 GMT
>Gee, chuck  it is hard to imagine someone not swimming in an ocean.  I
>live a block off the beach.  I havent been in the ocean since Jaws but I
>am glad to know it is there.  I dont think of anyone not having a beach.
>I guess I have been taking it for granted.
>
>Loretta

We have a beach only about fifteen miles from here. You can swim
and/or wade. You can see the gulls, the cranes, the eagles, Canada
geese, ducks and during their migration the pelicans. Of course you
can also see the fishermen in their bass boats and john boats along
with he sail boats and some rather large cabin cruisers. And last, but
not least, you can see the houses along the shore on the other side of
the lake. No surf coming off of it, but then we don't have any
Nor'easters either. :-)

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current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/
The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 1, 2006 is 2,182.
United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103  Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000
according to President Bush - probably much, much more.

Loretta Eisenberg - 05 Jan 2006 02:19 GMT
I guess you have a beach, but you dont have an ocean, do you chuck? lol

I guess they can put sand anywhere near a lake or a river.

Loretta

How could you ever have a nor easter you live in the midwest. hahahahaha

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terrorism.
Grandpa Chuck - 05 Jan 2006 03:22 GMT
>I guess you have a beach, but you dont have an ocean, do you chuck? lol

Nope.

>I guess they can put sand anywhere near a lake or a river.

Actually you can find as much sand as you like along any river and in
most lakes. We have some huge sand plants and rock quarries in the
area.

>Loretta
>
>How could you ever have a nor easter you live in the midwest. hahahahaha

About 85-90% of our storms come out of the southwest. Once in a great
while we will get one out of the east or the northeast when it comes
around on the back side of a front.

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for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the
current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/
The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 1, 2006 is 2,182.
United Kingdom = 98 Other = 103  Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000
according to President Bush - probably much, much more.

Mary - 05 Jan 2006 03:52 GMT
They don't have to "put" sand near a lake!  I used to live near a
wonderful, sandy bottomed lake with a great beach in the midwest.

> I guess you have a beach, but you dont have an ocean, do you chuck? lol
>
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> of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
> terrorism.
Dan Abel - 04 Jan 2006 02:52 GMT
> Our disabled van for people that are elderly and disabled like me is only
> for my County not the one where my doctor and the endo is. It does not go
> outside my county.

> Bus service is not in my area. It is 45 minutes away and you park and catch
> the Metro.

I understand that you don't want to go right now and you are going to
see what you can do for yourself, but just a random thought for the
future in case you decide you want to go, will the disabled van take you
to a bus station or stop within your county so you could go see this
doctor?

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Diana - 04 Jan 2006 03:15 GMT
> > Our disabled van for people that are elderly and disabled like me is only
> > for my County not the one where my doctor and the endo is. It does not go
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> to a bus station or stop within your county so you could go see this
> doctor?

Hi Dan,
I never thought of that but I could check. We have no bus stations around my
area at all but close to a metro line they might be able to and I can ask
which bus to take. Thanks for the suggestion and thanks for helping.
W.M.McKee - 04 Jan 2006 13:47 GMT
>Just want to say thank you to everyone who helped me this last seven years.
>You ALL are wonderful. I dearly love you all and each have a very special
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>So there ya have it...thanks if you have read this after my emotional
>outburst once again.

Diana, you just have to hang in there.... Congratulations on the
remarkable progress you are making. Just don't let up on your efforts
at control, now, when you are seeing good results.

We all want the very best for you!

Will, T2
Loretta Eisenberg - 04 Jan 2006 14:04 GMT
Diana, I would never ever repeat what you  told me in confidence,  You
can be sure of that.  I didnt say anything specific.  

I am sorry if you felt that way.

All I know is that when I went to the  gp, I was uncontrolled for about
two years.  Then I went to the endo and he gave me the right meds, how
to take them, how to manage my diabetes .  He is a specialist.

I am sorry that the access a ride doesnt go out of your county.  In New
York , it goes to the five counties.  That is sh.t.

Does the doctor have night time hours.  If so, could your husband or
your daughter take you there.

There has to be some way you can get to a doctor.

What about the rest of your family

We all have choices, Diana,  It breaks my heart that your choice is not
the one to fight and live.  

I have always been there for you.

and will continue to.

Loretta

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In tribute to the United States of America and the State
of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and
terrorism.
Ozgirl - 04 Jan 2006 21:40 GMT
> Does the doctor have night time hours.  If so, could your husband or
> your daughter take you there.

Probably doesn't relate to services there but here for
example... recently I needed to see a gyn but couldn't
afford the up front fee nor the out of pocket gap after
Medicare rebate (if I could have come up with the $120 or so
to see a specialist). I got a referral to the hospital gyn
in the outpatient clinics from my doctor who works in a
medical centre now - means there is bulk billing, i.e. I pay
nothing, the doctor receives payment from the Govt (a
percentage of the full fee). The gyn then looks at the
referrals and sees everyone based on his idea of who is more
urgent. I got to see him in less than 3 weeks. All for free,
all local.
 
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