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suggestions
for the shortest possible current connections from the US to Australia
for diabetics and/or people with other health problems wishing to
travel to Australia from the US. Suggestions would be appreciated.
4. PJ O'Donovan
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<<.... foolish for anyone carrying a diabetic in any
case) but the fact that you landed in Cairns in the first instance,
presumably so enamoured by your initial 20 or so hours in a metal tube
that you elected to immediately spend another 6 in one on the way to
Melbourne when simply landing in Melbourne would have been both cheaper
and more convenient.
Diavolo>>
<Q, I am also diabetic...What if I arrive at an Australian airport
sick,
Donna Evleth>
You would minimize that risk by breaking the trip up into manageable
segments.
There were no direct flights from Honolulu to Melbourne when we visited
Melbourne in 89. Honolulu to Cairns was the shortest route into
Australia at that time and that route has been cancelled for some time
now. When we visited Australia the last time in 98 we had to go
Honolulu to Fiji. We rested up in Fiji for a few days which was not too
hard to take and then went over to Brisbane from there. The Hnl/Fiji
flight is also no longer available the last time I checked.
My wife cannot tolerate any more than the 11 hours or so involved with
with the HNL Cairns segment or HNL to Fiji so I don't know what to
suggest for a manageable segment for a diabetic or someone with other
health problems to get to Australia at this time. We have a big
anniversary coming up and would love to learn of a manageable itinerary
of legs of 11 hours or less to get to the east coast of Australia.
Perhaps you or someone could suggest one.
One of the few French expressions I care to know:
DEJA VU!
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My wife is an insulin dependent diabetic and is uncomfortable on long
flights due to neuropathy which is a nasty side effect from 30 years
of diabetes. Her condition dictates that we break up a flights when
traveling into the shortest legs possible if if it means dog legging
sometimes
The Quantas flight from Honolulu to Cairns was the shortest direct
flight available to Australia at that time and even that was over 11
hours if I recall making her very uncomfortable. We laid over for some
days after flying
into Cairns which was not a problem since the Cairns area is such a
beautiful place and we had never been there.
. After she recuperated from the flight from Honolulu to Cairns, we
took the flight from Cairns to Melbourne for the express purpose of
renting a car in Melbourne to drive up the entire coast of Australia,
see the sights leisurely over six weeks. We had arranged with the car
rental company when we reserved it to drop the rental car off in Cairns
when we met the return flight from Cairns to Honolulu and stay in
Honolulu for about a week, allowing my wife to recuperate before going
on to San Francisco, laying over there before catching the final flight
to Atlanta. Since we were leisurely sightseers in Australia anxious too
leisurely see the coast of Australia, the quickest way to get from
point A to point B was not a priority as it would have been if I was on
a business trip alone.
If you like I will detail how we got to Tasmania and back by breaking
it up into the shortest possible legs,,,,
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Peter Bowditch - 26 Dec 2005 17:10 GMT
>I am posting this from another newsgroup in the hopes of soliciting
>suggestions
>for the shortest possible current connections from the US to Australia
>for diabetics and/or people with other health problems wishing to
>travel to Australia from the US. Suggestions would be appreciated.
Direct flight from LA to Sydney takes about 13 hours. I don't think it
can get quicker than that unless you know someone with a military jet
who is prepared to give you a lift.
>4. PJ O'Donovan
> Dec 26, 6:56 am show options
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AlmostBob - 26 Dec 2005 18:29 GMT
Short segments might be a little difficult, most airlines dont like to land
mid-ocean, LA-SYD or LA-MEL might be your best bet, just get up and walk
around. The airlines are pretty good about insulin if you advise them of the
need, and provide chillers to keep it fresh, make telephone enquiries of
your favorite 3/4 airlines and see what they will do for you.

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Ken Pisichko - 26 Dec 2005 19:24 GMT
> Short segments might be a little difficult, most airlines dont like to land
> mid-ocean, LA-SYD or LA-MEL might be your best bet, just get up and walk
> around. The airlines are pretty good about insulin if you advise them of the
> need, and provide chillers to keep it fresh, make telephone enquiries of
> your favorite 3/4 airlines and see what they will do for you.
As an insulin dependent diabetic for over 40 years - yes, I have neuropathy too
- I can only relate my personal experiences.
First, use the glucose tester at least every 4 hours while on the flight. For
any airplane trip insulin DOES NOT need refrigeration - unless of course the
airplane is warmer than 35C or about 100F. Highly unlikely.
Second, keep away from the deserts. Try to keep up the protein levels and the
CHO levels lower because they are usually "processed" starches.... Test your
blood at least every 4 hours - yes I said that before, but that is really
important for keeping your glucose under control. Forget about any free
alcoholic drinks. If your blood sugar gets low then there are lots of juices
available.. but don't overdo it - just a couple of sips and wait 15 to 30 min
before testing again. Once about 6 or 7 switch back to water or...
Get up and walk about if you are able. Do stretching exercises. Don't just sit
about - get up and move every hour if possible. That means GET an aisle seat.
My next trip to Australia will be this summer. LAX to Sydney/Brisbane. Then to
Cairns where I will start bicycling along the Savannah Way to Darwin. I practice
what I preach.
Happy trails.
Ken
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Al Bennett - 26 Dec 2005 19:13 GMT
>I am posting this from another newsgroup in the hopes of soliciting
>suggestions for the shortest possible current connections from
>the US to Australia for diabetics and/or people with other health >problems wishing
>to travel to Australia from the US.
>Suggestions would be appreciated.
Reading through the entire thread, it seems the O.P. can "handle"
flights of no more than approx 11 hours.
Currently I can think of several transpacific options that will meet
that requirement.
1 - Air Canada fly twice daily HNL-SYD with a 10h 35m flying time
southbound and 9h 50m flying time northbound. UA codeshare
on these flights so you should be able to get a UA fare using
them between HNL and the U.S. mainland and using their
code on the Air Canada flights between HNL and SYD.
Hawaiian also fly 4 x weekly on the same route.
Qantas fly 3 x weekly on the same route - AA codeshare with
them.
2 - Air Pacific fly HNL to Nadi in Fiji and then onwards to Oz.
The HNL-NAN segment is just on 6 hours length and the
NAN to say Sydney is just over 5 hours.
Air Pacific also fly nonstop from LAX to NAN, but that's
11 and a half hours of flying.
3 - Air New Zealand fly from LAX to Papeete in Tahiti 3 x weekly
in 9h 10m and then from PPT to Auckland in 5h 50m and
then AKL to say Sydney in just on 3 hours.
4 - Air Tahiti Nui fly from LAX to PPT also, as well as from New
York to PPT and from there nonstop into SYD. Flying times
are just over 9h LAX-PPT and just on 8 hours PPT-SYD.
JFK-PPT is 12 hours however.
5 - Continental & Air Mike can get you into Cairns, via HNL
& Guam. A very long way around however. If you *really*
want to break the trip up, then this is the one - just make
sure you use Air Mike's "island hopper" service between
HNL-GUM !!! :-)
In season (DEC-MAR) there are also numerous Round World
cruises where you should be able to get a segment passage
between places like Honolulu and Sydney as example.
Cheers.
PJ O'Donovan - 26 Dec 2005 20:27 GMT
<2 - Air Pacific fly HNL to Nadi in Fiji and then onwards to Oz.
The HNL-NAN segment is just on 6 hours length and the
NAN to say Sydney is just over 5 hours.
Al Bennet>
This sounds perfect. Just what I was looking for. Hope it is still
available when we are ready to go. Thanks
RAK - 27 Dec 2005 00:16 GMT
>>I am posting this from another newsgroup in the hopes of soliciting
>>suggestions for the shortest possible current connections from
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> between places like Honolulu and Sydney as example.
> Cheers.
I did a similar route to #2 - LA-HNL-Fiji-New Zealand-Syd years ago and it
broke the trip into moderate segments .
If you are starting from the east coast you may want to think about going
via Europe.
e.g. to London then via Dubai-Singapore-Australia with Emirates, the last
section being the longest, about 8-9 hours (less to Perth). I dont know if
Emirates have started their USA routes yet. They usually allow stopovers in
Dubai and Bali.
If not you need 2 airlines at least, so it could be expensive.
A good travel agent may be able to find code share routes so you can go on 2
or more airlines at an OK price. Star Alliance is probably the best
codeshare for this.
Jeff Hacker - 27 Dec 2005 03:28 GMT
> I am posting this from another newsgroup in the hopes of soliciting
> suggestions
> for the shortest possible current connections from the US to Australia
> for diabetics and/or people with other health problems wishing to
> travel to Australia from the US. Suggestions would be appreciated.
Hawaiian flies from the West Coast to HNL (about 5 1/2 hours), and then
HNL-Sydney nonstop (about 10 hours) on 763 equipment. Air Pacific flies
LAX-NAN (about 12 hours) on 744 equipment, then on to SYD on 763 or 738
equipment (about 3 1/2 hours)
> 4. PJ O'Donovan
> Dec 26, 6:56 am show options
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> hard to take and then went over to Brisbane from there. The Hnl/Fiji
> flight is also no longer available the last time I checked.
Air Pacific operate HNL-NAN a couple of times a week with 738 equipment.
> My wife cannot tolerate any more than the 11 hours or so involved with
> with the HNL Cairns segment or HNL to Fiji so I don't know what to
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loralgt@yahoo.com.au - 28 Dec 2005 08:53 GMT
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Hi PJ
Hi and happy New Year to everyone else - back for an hour or so via my
son's computer:-)
I'm a little confused reading all that - but I'm in the process of
planning a world trip and my wife has difficulties with long night
flights. Thus, I've looked at most of the options from LA to Oz via
short hops, mainly in daylight.
I'm also a diabetic, type 2 not using insulin, but I have no problems
with long flights. However, I do pack a salad and carry my own drinks
(lots of water and diet cola) just in case the on-board food has
problems; I use a soft-pack cooler to store the food.
Some Pacific crossing options (numbers are flight duration in hours)
LAX-PPT-AKL(via RAR)-SYD
8-6-3
LAX-HNL-NAN-BNE-(or SYD)
6-7-4
An alternate: each Tuesday the HNL-NAN leg can be daylight flights via
a one-hour stop in Kiritimati (Christmas Island).
I think Continental may have a route through Guam, but I haven't
researched it fully.
The flights via PPT are with Air Polynesia and dates are restricted;
the flights via NAN are regular Air Pacific with Qantas code-share but
the flight via Kiritimati only departs on Tuesdays - and arrives
Wednesdays because of the date line.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia
Chris J. - 01 Jan 2006 00:22 GMT
>Hi and happy New Year to everyone else - back for an hour or so via my
>son's computer:-)
Hi Alan! A Happy New Year to you too!
>Some Pacific crossing options (numbers are flight duration in hours)
I blame Australians for this, for putting their country in such an
inconvenient location... :-)
Phildo - 27 Feb 2006 22:11 GMT
> However, I do pack a salad
Make sure you eat it all or dispose of all food before you leave the plane.
One of my crew had a very expensive fruit salad on a flight to Australia for
a tour a few years ago as he got fined for bringing it in to the country. He
just hadn't eaten it but customs found it and really went to town on him.
Phildo
Ma¢k - 28 Feb 2006 09:15 GMT
>> However, I do pack a salad
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>Phildo
is this the Phildo that DJs on cruise ships?
ruoy - 31 Dec 2005 12:05 GMT
Hello!
My mom has also an insulin dependent diabetic.
So, I am upset with her to get most care to live long life .
Thank,
PTZaw.
ruoy - 31 Dec 2005 12:05 GMT
Hello!
My mom has also an insulin dependent diabetic.
So, I am upset with her to get most care to live long life .
Thank,
PTZaw.
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>Hello!
> My mom has also an insulin dependent diabetic.
> So, I am upset with her to get most care to live long life .
>
> Thank,
> PTZaw.
G'day G'day,
What do you think needs to happen for her to get the care she needs?
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Chris J. - 01 Jan 2006 00:19 GMT
>I am posting this from another newsgroup in the hopes of soliciting
>suggestions
>for the shortest possible current connections from the US to Australia
>for diabetics and/or people with other health problems wishing to
>travel to Australia from the US. Suggestions would be appreciated.
What do you mean by "shortest"? Do you want to get there with as few
total hours of flying as possible, or restrict flight segments to no
more than a certain number of hours?
For Shortest, there are non-stops out of LAX to Sydney. Runs about
17.5 hours IIRC.
For breaking it into shorter segments, you could try island hopping.
One option might be US to Honolulu, then Honolulu to Fiji, then Fiji
to Australia or New Zealand. There are plenty of other alternate
routes to try, too.
Or, if schedules and finances avail, how about going without flying?
Occasionally I see around-the-world cruises broken into segments that
might suffice, or for greater economy and schedule flexibility many
cargo ships will carry a few passengers, and stop at some darn
interesting places.
The hours in the air to AU from the US can certainly be a bit much for
anyone, diabetic or not. I've never done it non-stop, and so far my
longest non-stop flight is LA to Hong Kong, 16 hours.
Peter Bowditch - 01 Jan 2006 05:19 GMT
>>I am posting this from another newsgroup in the hopes of soliciting
>>suggestions
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>For Shortest, there are non-stops out of LAX to Sydney. Runs about
>17.5 hours IIRC.
About 13 hours, actually.

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