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ck - 12 Dec 2005 01:11 GMT

How long does it takes for the cough to subside after switching from
Enarapril(ACE) to DIovan(ARB)?
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Ozgirl - 12 Dec 2005 01:56 GMT

> How long does it takes for the cough to subside after switching from
> Enarapril(ACE) to DIovan(ARB)?

A few days in my case. I was on a fairly low ACE dose at the
time though. How long since your change?

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ck - 12 Dec 2005 03:35 GMT

She switch to ARB on Thursday, 3 days ago.

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Ozgirl - 12 Dec 2005 10:01 GMT

> She switch to ARB on Thursday, 3 days ago.

I think possibly early days yet, then. If it is not gone
within another week might be worth having a chat with the
doctor.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Dec 2005 09:50 GMT

> How long does it takes for the cough to subside after switching from
> Enarapril(ACE) to DIovan(ARB)?
> ck

Typically within 24-48 hours.

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Nev. - 12 Dec 2005 10:30 GMT

> How long does it takes for the cough to subside after switching from
> Enarapril(ACE) to DIovan(ARB)?
> ck

Depends. If the cough is not caused by the ACE, it probably won't.

Years ago I had a fellow worker tell me I should see a doctor about
a cough, so I saw my endocrinologist, and he took me off the ACE
medication.

Some time later on I went to a cardiologist, and the first thing he told
was that I had serious asthma and it was long term. He prescribed
medication which helped with the cough and improved my energy
levels. He also diagnosed a sticky heart valve.

When I told my GP about this, he said, "How would he know."

When I went back to my endo and told him about this, he put me
back on the ACE medication.

Nev

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Dec 2005 10:45 GMT

> > How long does it takes for the cough to subside after switching from
> > Enarapril(ACE) to DIovan(ARB)?
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>
> When I told my GP about this, he said, "How would he know."

Better physician.

> When I went back to my endo and told him about this, he put me
> back on the ACE medication.

That was wise.

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Ma¢k - 12 Dec 2005 14:14 GMT

The other day I was watching a drug company commercial on Altace an
ACE inhibitor. They got to the end where they list all of the
possible side effects. Amazingly they did not use a speed talker to
read the list of side effects. I have none of them except 1, and this
is the first time I have seen or heard of with Altace.

Some users will experience severe hypoglycemia.

Pardon!?!?!?!?

so I checked the dates on when I started experiencing severe sudden
hypos and when I started taking Altace and when the dosage was upped.
Shortly after I started taking it I started having a lot of hypos.
Shortly after I upped the dosage, again I started having a lot of
hypos. Both times they tapered off with some adjustments in insulin
dosage. I still get sudden hypos, very severe just not as frequently.

Does anyone know if hypos is listed anywhere as a possible side effect
with ARBs?

When I get in to see my endo about this we are in for one hell of a
bitch session if he knew about this possibility.

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 12 Dec 2005 18:10 GMT

> The other day I was watching a drug company commercial on Altace an
> ACE inhibitor. They got to the end where they list all of the
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Does anyone know if hypos is listed anywhere as a possible side effect
> with ARBs?

Lowered need for insulin (or other hypoglycemic medications) is a
potential side benefit for both ACE-Is and ARBs.

> When I get in to see my endo about this we are in for one hell of a
> bitch session if he knew about this possibility.

This is a well-known side benefit for ACE-Is and ARBs.

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Jason - 12 Dec 2005 18:55 GMT

> > The other day I was watching a drug company commercial on Altace an
> > ACE inhibitor. They got to the end where they list all of the
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> Andrew
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Kurt - 12 Dec 2005 19:53 GMT

> The other day I was watching a drug company commercial on Altace an
> ACE inhibitor. They got to the end where they list all of the
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> When I get in to see my endo about this we are in for one hell of a
> bitch session if he knew about this possibility.

I've been taking Altace (5mg) for over 2 years and have never noticed
any hypos because of it. Not to say it might have had some play into a
few mild hypos, but nothing that I can directly tie to the Altace. How
much are you taking? Maybe the bigger the dose, the more that side
effect happens.

This is from their official website www.altace.com

"Prescription ALTACE is not for everyone. ALTACE may cause swelling of
the mouth, tongue, or throat, which could cause extremely serious risk
and requires immediate medical care. There have been rare reports of
low blood sugar in patients taking ALTACE with medicine for diabetes.
Please contact your doctor if you have symptoms of low blood sugar such
as sweating or shakiness. Common side effects include persistent dry
cough, dizziness, and light-headedness due to low blood pressure. Do
not take ALTACE during pregnancy, as death or injury to your unborn
child may result, or if you've experienced serious side effects related
to previous ACE inhibitors."

They mention low blood sugar when taken with other diabetes medicine so
it could be having an affect on you. It hasn't with me.

Best,
Kurt

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Ma¢k - 12 Dec 2005 21:03 GMT

>> The other day I was watching a drug company commercial on Altace an
>> ACE inhibitor. They got to the end where they list all of the
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>much are you taking? Maybe the bigger the dose, the more that side
>effect happens.

20 mg now.

>This is from their official website www.altace.com
>
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>Best,
>Kurt

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Loretta Eisenberg - 12 Dec 2005 19:47 GMT

ck, I switched and I think it was fairly quick although I dont remember
exactly how long

I couldnt stand that cough

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Nev. - 13 Dec 2005 23:48 GMT

> ck, I couldnt stand that cough

Note:

YMMV,
This is not a cure,
This is not a medical treatment.

I was going to computer studies at night and was having trouble
trying to stop coughing during the lectures, and was trying all sorts
of lozenges, etc. This was being caused by the asthma I didn't
know I had..

Eventually the best thing I found to minimize my coughing was
sugar free caramel or chocolate confectionery. Eventually
I took the table of contents along to one of the medical specialists
I was seeing and asked him what was in this confectionery that
helped make my coughing much more bearable. He looked at
list of contents and said he couldn't see anything there that should
alleviate my coughing. I could only guess that perhaps the
66% maltitol and 16.5% Mannitol were somehow lubricating
my throat etc. These days I would only have piece of
confectionery on one day and maybe no more tor another week

Nev.

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Sleepyman - 14 Dec 2005 21:44 GMT

>> ck, I couldnt stand that cough
>>
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>
>Nev.

I'm sure they were "lubricating" something.........

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Ricavito - 12 Dec 2005 23:05 GMT

> How long does it takes for the cough to subside after switching from
> Enarapril(ACE) to DIovan(ARB)?
> ck

Hi ck, it took almost a week for my cough to be gone (I switched from
lisinopril to benicar, with a lapse of a couple of months in between
dropping the ACE and my insurance finally approving the ARB).

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