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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / January 2006What is Diabetes?
What does insulin do? What happens to the endocrine system? How does a person get better? you might find the links below useful.  SignatureTom Exercise Today = Life Tomorrow ADA's Diabetes Learning Center http://www.diabetes.org/all-about-diabetes/chan_eng/channel.htm Information you can trust from the diabetes experts... Your American Diabetes Association http://www.diabetes.org/home.jsp the American Diabetes Association's Message Boards http://community.diabetes.org/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=amdiabetesz&nav=index Pictures of My motorcycle and I think 2 of my doggies. http://www.adventurseofvtx1300c.com.50megs.com/photo.html > What does insulin do? What happens to the endocrine system? How does a > person get better? > What does insulin do? What happens to the endocrine system? How does a > person get better? keeps you alive. it goes to hell. take your medicine, boy (or girl). dave > What does insulin do? What happens to the endocrine system? How does a > person get better? "How does a person get better?" You don't. >> What does insulin do? What happens to the endocrine system? How does a >> person get better? > > "How does a person get better?" > > You don't. We all know there's no cure, but taking the appropriate medicine makes the rest of your life a heck of a lot better than going into a coma and dying near future. I "got better" once I was dx'd and began insulin therapy. Before that I had terrible leg pains, blurry vision, peed every 20 minutes, had unquenchable thirst... Dave > We all know there's no cure, but taking the appropriate medicine makes > the rest of your life a heck of a lot better than going into a coma and > dying near future. Too many edits and too little proofreading. should read,"We all know there's no cure, but taking the appropriate medicine makes the rest of your life a heck of a lot better than going into a coma and dying in the near future." Dave >> We all know there's no cure, but taking the appropriate medicine makes >> the rest of your life a heck of a lot better than going into a coma and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Dave As long as you include the appropriate diet and exercise as part - or sometimes all - of that medicine. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Hi Frank, in this newsgroup people will tell you there is no cure, no matter what they say, people have been cured!!! Genetics can predispose most people, if there relatives have it(like all my uncles and aunts and parent have), you are predisposed to get it. Some have overcome diabetes T2 by diet, T1 cannot be cured, you are stuck with it for the rest of life, but some T2's have reversed diabetes by diet, very strict vegan diet and exercise, there are two places that say it can be cured or reversed http://www.drmcdougall.com and http://www.vegetarismus.ch/heft/2000-1/diabetes_e.htm and http://www.chipusa.org/reverse2.html Most Doctors will also tell you it cannot be cured, but most Doctors believe diet can cure nothing, though diet is the main cause, plus having the wrong parents do not help, hope all things go well!!!! >> What does insulin do? What happens to the endocrine system? How does a >> person get better? > > "How does a person get better?" > > You don't. >Hi Frank, in this newsgroup people will tell you there is no cure, no >matter what they say, people have been cured!!! Genetics can predispose [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >diet and exercise, there are two places that say it can be cured or >reversed scam websites deleted. >Most Doctors will also tell you it cannot be cured, but most Doctors >believe diet can cure nothing, though diet is the main cause, plus >having the wrong parents do not help, hope all things go well!!!! Colin Hammond is a flat out liar. There is no cure for type 2 diabetes. It can be managed, but at the present time it cannot be cured. Anyone telling you that it can cured will only mislead you down the road of scammers and kooks and snake oil salesmen. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. >>> What does insulin do? What happens to the endocrine system? How does a >>> person get better? >> >> "How does a person get better?" >> >> You don't. >Hi Frank, in this newsgroup people will tell you there is no cure, no >matter what they say, people have been cured!!! Genetics can predispose [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >diet and exercise, there are two places that say it can be cured or >reversed Aaarghhh!!! He's back! Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare. Harriet Martineau (1802 - 1876) > >Hi Frank, in this newsgroup people will tell you there is no cure, no > >matter what they say, people have been cured!!! Genetics can predispose [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare. > Harriet Martineau (1802 - 1876) I guess that means you agree with Colin? Lou (who is new) >> >Hi Frank, in this newsgroup people will tell you there is no cure, no >> >matter what they say, people have been cured!!! Genetics can predispose [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Lou (who is new) Hi Lou Of course I agree. In exactly the same way as I agree with George Orwell, Terry Pratchett, Jules Verne and Isaac Asimov. They were all excellent writers of speculative and fantastic fiction. Actually - that's a bit unfair on Asimov, who also wrote a lot of excellent scientific books. Many of the ideas of the sf writers of the "golden age" became fact; Arthur C Clarke's for example. However, I suspect that Dr McDougall's ideas will still not have borne fruit when Duck Dodgers arrives in the 25th and a half century. You will find that many of us become very pedantic about defining the word "cure". It tends to be the nature of those with incurable afflictions. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. | > >Hi Frank, in this newsgroup people will tell you there is no cure, no | > >matter what they say, people have been cured!!! Genetics can predispose [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] | | Lou (who is new) In case you didn't understand Alan's round about way of giving you a yes/no answer.. I'm sure I can safely tell you, NO he does NOT agree with Colin. Colin, is a new fruitcake here that refuses to believe there is no cure after reading a bullcrap book by some scammer promoting a cure. Just as Mack said, there are no known cures for Diabetes PERIOD other then Gestational Diabetes, then over half go on to become Type 2's. Be very careful as to whom you trust/believe. Just remember, Google is your friend in these types of cases. RK, T1 - pumper - 5.5yrs on ASD >In case you didn't understand Alan's round about way of giving you >a yes/no answer.. Unclear? Moi? Let me put it this way. Those who believe the Hammond/McDougall claims on diabetic cures probably also believe that Alien, Independence Day, Mars Attacks and ET were documentaries. And I'd also like to talk to them about some marvellous investment ideas for their funds to support me in my old age. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. :-p >> In case you didn't understand Alan's round about way of giving you >> a yes/no answer.. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. Where did I say it could be cured? there are two places that (say) it can be cured or reversed > Hi Frank, in this newsgroup people will tell you there is no cure, no > matter what they say, people have been cured!!! Genetics can predispose [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> You don't. >Where did I say it could be cured? >there are two places that (say) it can be cured or >reversed > >> Hi Frank, in this newsgroup people will tell you there is no cure, no >> matter what they say, people have been cured!!! right there, liar. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. http://tinyurl.com/dgb3q Dear Mira There is a product on the market called Dihydroquercetin/Quercetin.This helps tremendously .Please check out the website quercetin.co.za Mira, Was passing by, and found your question. I am an endocrinologist. Your questions are too general and clearly people will be tempted to refer you to a huge website to do your homework (reading), as "oldal" clearly has!. Hope you have been busy with it. GETTING BETTER and CURE are clearly different. Type 1 diabetes is due to total destruction of the pancreatic tail and the only CURE FOR Type I DIABETES is transplantation, although drug therapy may need to continue TO PREVENT REJECTION. Type 2 diabetes is where you still have some pancreas function left, but the tired pancreas cannot produce ENOUGH INSULIN to overcome the resistance offered by the fat that has accumulated over time. Clearly, losing weight can IMPROVE diabetes (if you were to redo testing), and make you FEEL BETTER and AVOID COMPLICATIONS due to diabetes in the long term. GASTRIC BYPASS where people lose upto 20 stones etc, can CURE DIABETES In this population!. So there is CURE OF THE DIABETIC STATE in both types. MAINTAINING CURE Iis totally another matter altogether. I would be happy to answer any other SPECIFIC queries. Clark >Mira, >Was passing by, and found your question. I am an endocrinologist. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >Clark another quack SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. Dear Sir, I was read your post and noticed you spelled CONTROL wrong. Its not spelled CURE, but CONTROL. Please spell check next time. Thanks lol SignatureJoe T2 Nov '05 30mg Actos,3gr Cinnamon, Diet(100 carbs) & 3 mile walk(everyday) & BowFlex(3x a week) *****Diabetes, be proactive, not reactive.***** > Mira, > Was passing by, and found your question. I am an endocrinologist. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Clark http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/54/5/1253#T1 There are many Types type 2 diabetes, musscle tisseu can't reconize the insulin anymore, the pancreas produces not enough insulin, there is to many fat to reach the muscle cells etc etc... Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease that starts with the antigen presenting cells in the pancreas, theyh show the wrong antigens (body's own cells) to T-cells and there will come a infiltation of macrophages and T-cells (insulitis) that will destroy all the Beta cells (insulin producing cells) in the islets of langerhans. If the first symptoms accor ; thirst, weight loss, much urinating, constandly tired. More than 90% of the Beta cells are destroyed and the person in question needs to prick insulin the rest of his or her live. Type 2 diabetes is in much cases induced true to much consumption ecspecialy sugars (cola, cookies etc) |
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