The doctor just called with the lab results:
Home test: HbA1c = 5.1
Lab test: HbA1c = 6.0
So, it appears one must add nearly a whole percentage point to the home test
to get a more reliable number.
Other results:
HDH = 39 (gotta go up)
LDL = 100 (gotta go down)
Trig = 146 (gotta go down)
All in all I'm pleased with the results of 6 months of effort, but there is
room progress.
After not losing any weight for 6 months I went on metformin a month ago
(1700mg/day) and no glipizide. So far I've lost 4 pounds, and losing the
glipizide hasn't made my FBG and other numbers go up. I must have a few beta
cells left.
And, yes, that was a BG of 651 in the doctor's office when diagnosed 4/05.
He said he had never seen a patient with that number who was not comatose.
So, thanks to all here whose advice has gotten me this far.
Now, back to the celery and some additional exercise.
RK - 28 Oct 2005 03:37 GMT
| The doctor just called with the lab results:
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| So, it appears one must add nearly a whole percentage point to the home test
| to get a more reliable number.
Not really, you're lab might say you're a 6.0 but my lab might say you're a
4.9 ... every lab has different ratios which is what is wrong with an A1C...
My GP's office lab has a higher average then my endo's office.. I go mostly
by what my meter is, how I feel and combine all the numbers to give me a
well rounded graph... so far my endo and gp follow more my advice for
myself then I theirs... I listen to them when they tell me numbers need to
drop.. or that I need this med for this protection because I'm taking this
or that med..
but congrats none the less...
| Other results:
|
| HDH = 39 (gotta go up)
| LDL = 100 (gotta go down)
| Trig = 146 (gotta go down)
what was your cholesterol?
| All in all I'm pleased with the results of 6 months of effort, but there is
| room progress.
as you should be pleased... theres always room for improvement..
| After not losing any weight for 6 months I went on metformin a month ago
| (1700mg/day) and no glipizide. So far I've lost 4 pounds, and losing the
| glipizide hasn't made my FBG and other numbers go up. I must have a few beta
| cells left.
congrats on the weight loss...
i'm sure you have more then a few beta cells left.... more like an over
abundance,
they just don't work like they should any longer.
| And, yes, that was a BG of 651 in the doctor's office when diagnosed 4/05.
| He said he had never seen a patient with that number who was not comatose.
LOL, guess he's not seen too many t1 diabetics... I've been over that
several times in the early days and when i'm really sick.
RK, t1
gary - 28 Oct 2005 13:07 GMT
Thanks for the congrats. I didn't realise there was that much variation in
A1c lab testing. I assumed it was one of the more reliable numbers, having
gotten accustomed to wide variability in home metering. Like you, I now go
to my doc and tell him what I think I want to do, and then listen to his
advice, rather than just taking what comes. He's been great about following
this forum's advice (g).
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> RK, t1
None Given - 28 Oct 2005 16:42 GMT
> Thanks for the congrats. I didn't realise there was that much variation in
> A1c lab testing. I assumed it was one of the more reliable numbers, having
> gotten accustomed to wide variability in home metering. Like you, I now go
> to my doc and tell him what I think I want to do, and then listen to his
> advice, rather than just taking what comes. He's been great about following
> this forum's advice (g).
You need to know what the normal range is for each test.

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Alan S - 28 Oct 2005 04:29 GMT
>The doctor just called with the lab results:
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>Now, back to the celery and some additional exercise.
Congratulations. Whether it's 5.1 or 6.0 that's a
tremendous improvement on a diagnostic glucose of 651. You
didn'r mention the initial A1c - but it had to be way up
there.
Keep up the good work:-)
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

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gary - 28 Oct 2005 13:10 GMT
He didn't do an initial A1c--just the BG number. It was at 4pm after no
breakfast and a small lunch of a ham sandwich and glass of OJ. Thanks for
all your support.
Gary
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> Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
oldal4865 - 28 Oct 2005 12:48 GMT
gary wrote in message ...
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>Other results:
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>
>Now, back to the celery and some additional exercise.
It occurs to me that you might be interested in why I regard our posters,
Quentin and Susan as Heroes 1st Class.
I am barred from taking the anti-cholesterol statin meds, and for a while,
my lipid panel was frightening. Then Quentin posted about the book:
50 Ways to Lower Your Cholesterol. McGowan, Mary P., M.D.
So I bought it and did some of the things Dr. McGowan recommended:
First pass results:
Total Cholesterol: down 21%
Triglycerides: down 43%
HDL down 4%
LDL down 25%
Then Susan posted some citations from some European studies on the effects
of the vitamin Pantethine. I didn't even take the whole dose they
recommended but I still saw a striking increase in my HDL (Hint: If
you want to live a long time, pick grandparents who pass on "high-HDL"
genes)
Final result:
HDL: 68 mg/dL
Triglycerides/HDL = 1.1 **
Total/HDL = 2.6
(** Another way to live longer, inherit some "triglycerides/HDL ratio =
low" genes, or figure out how to get there without them. If your ratio is
3.0 or higher, get cracking! ! !)
My regime:
Benecol Margarine
Olive Oil (THE cooking fat in our house)
Policosanol
Garlic
Guggul (all three in one pill from iHerb)
time-release Niacin
Psyllium
Fish oil
Walnuts
Ground Flax Seed
Pantethine
I don't follow Dr. McGowan's Soy Flour recommendations. Just can't find a
good way to squeeze it into my diet. Also, soy is risky for T1 or other
folks with known autoimmune problems.
Regards
Old Al
Susan - 28 Oct 2005 13:00 GMT
> It occurs to me that you might be interested in why I regard our posters,
> Quentin and Susan as Heroes 1st Class.
Al, everyone who reads and posts here to share helpful experiences,
experiments and support is heroic. Your encyclopedic, annotated posts
on metformin convinced me to keep trying it til it no longer sickened
me; and now I'm seeing results, three months later.
> I am barred from taking the anti-cholesterol statin meds, and for a while,
> my lipid panel was frightening. Then Quentin posted about the book:
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> Regards
> Old Al
Wowzer! Great total results. FTR, I won't eat soy flour on a dare.
I'd rather be hungry. :-)
Susan
gary - 28 Oct 2005 13:13 GMT
Thanks Oldal--
You answered a lot of my next questions about cholesterol. My approach since
all this started 6 months ago has been to just focus on one thing at a time,
do that as well as I can, and then add something to the regime. Cholesterol
and exercise are next. Thanks for the advice and info.
Gary
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> Regards
> Old Al
Jenny - 28 Oct 2005 17:46 GMT
> Thanks Oldal--
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>>Regards
>> Old Al
Gary,
If you have just started to lose weight, your cholesterol will be
elevated, because some of the TGs are fat leaving your body. That is
what my doctor told me. Even so, your current TG level is the top of
normal, so you are doing great!
My experience with the home tests is that they are usually higher than
my lab's result, but whatever the story here, you've made enormous
strides in controlling your blood sugar and if you keep at it, you can
expect to see the A1c decline a whole lot more!

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Uncle Enrico - 29 Oct 2005 20:07 GMT
> The doctor just called with the lab results:
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> So, it appears one must add nearly a whole percentage point to the home test
> to get a more reliable number.
I had the reverse situation. The home test was 5.8 and the lab was 5.3.
Others have reported dead on accuracy between the home and lab tests.
I was suspicious of my home test when I drew too much blood into the
first pipette and then wicked some out with a tissue and got a bubble in
the tube making it difficult to know how much total blood I'd captured.
Would be nice if the test kit came with an extra pipette for such errors.
Loretta Eisenberg - 30 Oct 2005 23:39 GMT
Gary, considering where you started from you are doing great.
As time goes by the numbers will improve even more.
Loretta
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