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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / October 2005Ping: RK
got a question. did you say a while back that having pain increases your bg's or that taking pain killers does? Dave | got a question. did you say a while back that having pain increases | your bg's or that taking pain killers does? | | Dave Pain increases my bg's, it also depends on how much pain i'm in also. some days its only mild pain where I see a small rise.. other days when I can hardly move, i'm still battling 400's easy... just increase pain meds and switch to pain basal and just ride the wave till it ends. why whats up? Reisa > | got a question. did you say a while back that having pain increases > | your bg's or that taking pain killers does? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Reisa bulging cervical disk. I tried vicodin--didn't touch the pain. Now I'm on Percocet which helps a bit. Either I'm too inactive, requiring a lot more insulin, or the pain has changed my metabolism. Tomorrow I might start getting relief--I'm going in for a shot. I forget what it's called, but it's used for bulging disk pain. I've been running my pump at 120% of normal basal and still have to take corrective boluses a lot. Dave | > | got a question. did you say a while back that having pain increases | > | your bg's or that taking pain killers does? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] | | Dave bummer... sorry to see that happening yep... exactly how I am when I get a flare.. which I get 2-3x a week. which is funny because when i'm taking morphine I get the best relief, doesn't kill the pain just dulls it better. then I can put my basal back to normal otherwise i'm running at close to 45u a day on pain days... 32u on non-pain days. i'm sure its steriods -- its a special type for diabetics... i've had them done in my back.. it works a bit, but I still have 3 more to go for the series to make it complete. I usually get a hmmm 60-100mg rise for the first 24-36hrs then starts to go back down. hope u feel better.. RK >> | got a question. did you say a while back that having pain increases >> | your bg's or that taking pain killers does? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Dave Sorry to hear it David - is there any long-term solution available? Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.  SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>>| got a question. did you say a while back that having pain increases >>>| your bg's or that taking pain killers does? [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > available? > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. well, 1 surgery kept my problems away for 9 years. the next surgery kept them away for 8 years. Since the current problem is in the same area as back in '88, I want to avoid surgery and give the injections a "shot". :) I'll be going in later this morning. I'll post the results of the injection later. I was warned not to expect much the first day. In fact, many patients don't get relief until the second shot, usually scheduled for a couple weeks later. Dave Best to you Dave. I hope you get relief from the pain through the shots sooner than later. -- Cheri David wrote in message ... >"shot". :) I'll be going in later this morning. I'll post the results >of the injection later. I was warned not to expect much the first day. > In fact, many patients don't get relief until the second shot, usually >scheduled for a couple weeks later. > >Dave > Best to you Dave. I hope you get relief from the pain through the shots > sooner than later. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >>Dave Thanks, Cheri. After an initial problem with a nicked nerve during the procedure yesterday, I'm getting quite a bit of relief from the arm pain. I've been able to go without pain pills for the first time in over 2 weeks. The downside is that the injection and the medrol I'm on has made my insulin practically useless. I stayed up 1/2 the night taking bolus after bolus. I increased my basal rate first 22%, then 33, than 60 and finally 75 percent. I woke up this morning to a 214. I took another 10-12 units and waited 2 1/2 hours before I could eat breakfast. then I stayed around 100 for a few hours, had lunch and now I'm fighting to get it below 214 again. The cortisone in the shot really shoots up a DM's bg's! I might have to go through this all again in 2 weeks and possibly in another 4. sigh. Dave David wrote in message ... >Thanks, Cheri. After an initial problem with a nicked nerve during the >procedure yesterday, I'm getting quite a bit of relief from the arm >pain. I've been able to go without pain pills for the first time in >over 2 weeks. That is good news. Getting rid of a lot of the pain is always good. >The downside is that the injection and the medrol I'm on has made my >insulin practically useless. I stayed up 1/2 the night taking bolus [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Dave That sounds like a nightmare. It must be hard trying to control your BG's while trying to control your pain. I've never had cortisone, so I'll knock on wood with that one. Best to you, and I hope you don't have to go through it all over. Cheri > David wrote in message ... > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Cheri thanks, Cheri. I'm limiting my time at the PC because it aggravates my arm. Today I feel pretty much like yesterday. No better; no worse. My wife and I discovered a couple minutes ago that it's an hour earlier than we thought. I read this morning's paper and didn't notice "turn back your clock". DOH! Dave Yes Dave, it's best not to overdo it with the computer and typing if it's aggravating the arm. I'm sorry you're not better today, but maybe just going to take some time. As to the daylight savings time thing, I set my clocks back Friday night because I have 23 of them in total and wanted to get a head start on it. I've been totally out of sync since then. LOL Hope you feel better tomorrow. Cheri David wrote in message ... >thanks, Cheri. I'm limiting my time at the PC because it aggravates my >arm. Today I feel pretty much like yesterday. No better; no worse. My [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Dave 23 clocks ! ! ! ! ok...... you got my attention................... watch, alarm clock, video machine, microwave, stove, second alarm clock............................. where do you get to 23 clocks????????? lol kate > Yes Dave, it's best not to overdo it with the computer and typing if > it's aggravating the arm. I'm sorry you're not better today, but maybe [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cheri >23 clocks ! ! ! ! >ok...... you got my attention................... >watch, alarm clock, video machine, microwave, >stove, second alarm >clock............................. where do you >get to 23 clocks????????? If I added up all the ones around here.. Hmmm... 2 in the vehicles, 4 in the VCR's, 5 in the kitchen, 3 watches, 9 wall clocks, 6 in the TV's, irrigation, lighting, security 1 each, 4 in telephones, 2 answering machines, 2 travel alarms, That would make 40, and I'm sure I've forgotten a few. I'm darn glad I don't live in a state that has Daylight savings time! That's one silliness I can do without! >>23 clocks ! ! ! ! >>ok...... you got my attention................... [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I'm darn glad I don't live in a state that has Daylight savings time! > That's one silliness I can do without! damn! I forgot the VCR. our cell phones, thankfully reset to system time. answering machine, with a mini tape, has no clock function--yeah. Dave I'm sure if you add all those little ones up, like VCR's, microwave, stove, wall clocks, knick knack clocks, answering machines, fax machines, car clocks, stereo clocks etc., you'll come up with a bunch too Kate. It is one of lifes little annoyances IMO. I hate daylight savings time. :-) -- Cheri >>>23 clocks ! ! ! ! >>>ok...... you got my attention................... >>>watch, alarm clock, video machine, microwave, >>>stove, second alarm >>>clock............................. where do you >>>get to 23 clocks????????? sigh........ i''m finding the other clocks now......... then there is my meter that has been wrong by an hour all day long now....... yup easy to hit 40 now adays!!!!! (car needs to be reset too) kate (leaving the kidlet and partner to do their OWN resets) SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > I'm sure if you add all those little ones up, like VCR's, microwave, > stove, wall clocks, knick knack clocks, answering machines, fax [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >>>clock............................. where do you > >>>get to 23 clocks????????? > If I added up all the ones around here.. Hmmm... 2 in the vehicles, 4 > in the VCR's, 5 in the kitchen, 3 watches, 9 wall clocks, 6 in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'm darn glad I don't live in a state that has Daylight savings time! > That's one silliness I can do without! Holy crap! I don't need to know what time it is that badly. My VCR and computer reset themselves. I set my meter, alarm clock, micro, oven, and one tv. I reminded DH to reset his alarm and watch. I don't think he reset his meter in April, I know he doesn't ever reset the clock in the truck, same thing with the answering machine. Nobody cares if the other VCR flashes 12, we only use it for watching. The clock in the car doesn't work, I gave up trying to keep the little tv set because the electricity blinks and I just have to do it again. When I need to wear my watch I set it and wind it then. That's 16 and we only mess with 7 of them. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes >> If I added up all the ones around here.. Hmmm... 2 in the vehicles, 4 >> in the VCR's, 5 in the kitchen, 3 watches, 9 wall clocks, 6 in the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >and I just have to do it again. When I need to wear my watch I set it and >wind it then. That's 16 and we only mess with 7 of them. I forgot a few.. 5 meters, and the well control system, for a total of 46.. UGH! I doubt I'd bother with all of them if I had to deal with Daylight savings time, but it would sure be a hassle. > Yes Dave, it's best not to overdo it with the computer and typing if > it's aggravating the arm. I'm sorry you're not better today, but maybe [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >>Dave 23? I think that's approx how many we have to change, too! :) I wish they'd abolish daylight savings now that most of the civilized world has dozens of time keeping devices to reset every 6 months. Dave >> Yes Dave, it's best not to overdo it with the computer and typing if >> it's aggravating the arm. I'm sorry you're not better today, but maybe [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Dave I just did a quick audit. have OVER 43 items that need resetting. pumps, meters, timers for sprinkers and lights, ovens (3), 2 cars, PDA's, 8 watches... I think I'll be done resetting them just in time for "spring ahead". (I've found only 3 devices that adjust automatically: 2 PC's and an OfficeJet) Dave Damn, that's a lot, and it's the pits. Some I don't mind as much as others, but the ones where you have to get a manual out to do it are just the worst. Big sigh. :-) -- Cheri David wrote in message ... >I just did a quick audit. have OVER 43 items that need resetting. >pumps, meters, timers for sprinkers and lights, ovens (3), 2 cars, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Dave >>> Yes Dave, it's best not to overdo it with the computer and typing if >>> it's aggravating the arm. I'm sorry you're not better today, but maybe [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >Dave Shucks! I forgot about all of things like meters, etc. and my wife's several wrist watches. -- Grandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle, and twice the brightness can then be shared by all. Love is giving all with no conditions. Love is expecting nothing in return. A religious person is trying to avoid hell; a spiritual person has already been there. >> Yes Dave, it's best not to overdo it with the computer and typing if >> it's aggravating the arm. I'm sorry you're not better today, but maybe [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >Dave I love daylight saving:-) And for some, at least that means they get out of their chairs once every six months. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >I love daylight saving:-) Really? Did you remember to set your clocks back? :-) > And for some, at least that means >they get out of their chairs once every six months. ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On a serious note, I'd like to remind everyone that clock-changing time is a good time to change the batteries in your smoke detectors! >> Yes Dave, it's best not to overdo it with the computer and typing if >> it's aggravating the arm. I'm sorry you're not better today, but maybe [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >Dave We collect clocks. I didn't even bother to count today. The last time I did which was at least five years ago the total, including VRCs, etc. was 49. All I know is that I change a few in the morning and then every hour or so when I am near some of the others I change those too. It is now nearly 9:00 p.m. and there are still some I haven't gotten to. The pendulum clocks are the easiest since all I have to do is stop the pendulum from swinging and go back in an hour or so and restart it and set it right. -- Grandpa Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle, and twice the brightness can then be shared by all. Love is giving all with no conditions. Love is expecting nothing in return. A religious person is trying to avoid hell; a spiritual person has already been there. That's my hardest one, because it's hung higher on the wall and it's heavy, and you have to take the back off since the front doesn't open. Another big sigh there. :-) Cheri Grandpa Chuck > wrote in message > to. The pendulum clocks are the easiest since all I have to do is stop >the pendulum from swinging and go back in an hour or so and restart it >and set it right. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >A religious person is trying to avoid hell; >a spiritual person has already been there. > That's my hardest one, because it's hung higher on the wall and it's > heavy, and you have to take the back off since the front doesn't open. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>A religious person is trying to avoid hell; >>a spiritual person has already been there. I was lucky tonight I didn't drop our best wall clock due to my bum arm. Now I've got 6 months before I have to take it down from the wall for it's next time change. Dave | >>>| got a question. did you say a while back that having pain increases | >>>| your bg's or that taking pain killers does? [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] | | Dave Then it's not steriod's like i'm getting to help with the inflamation. I was told, after the lidocaine wore off a few hours later I'd have almost mild immedate results, if not it wasn't going to take period. I did get almost immedate relief... too bad it was at the expense of a glucose high on top of it.. err. hope it works for you. RK > | >>>| got a question. did you say a while back that having pain increases > | >>>| your bg's or that taking pain killers does? [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > RK my shot was part steroid and part pain killer. see my post to Cheri. Dave >well, 1 surgery kept my problems away for 9 years. the next surgery >kept them away for 8 years. Since the current problem is in the same [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Dave Hope it does the job. Good luck. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>well, 1 surgery kept my problems away for 9 years. the next surgery >>kept them away for 8 years. Since the current problem is in the same [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. Thanks, Alan. So far the results are mixed but promising (it's been a bit over 24 hours since the injection). the doc said relief might not come at all from the first shot, or it might take just a few days. If the second shot doesn't help (2 weeks later) then we'll have to go to plan B. Dave >>>well, 1 surgery kept my problems away for 9 years. the next surgery >>>kept them away for 8 years. Since the current problem is in the same [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Dave Nicked nerve? You could become wealthy here. But don't mention your new lawyer until the doc has finished the job. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>>>well, 1 surgery kept my problems away for 9 years. the next surgery >>>>kept them away for 8 years. Since the current problem is in the same [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. "Nicked" wasn't the right word to use, really. Because of Dave's previous 2 fusions, the cervical area is full of scar tissue and the anatomy isn't clear. Rather, one of the spinal needles just happened to stimulate a nerve that runs to the underarm area, and Dave said it felt like a bee sting, only worse. But this a.m. he said it wasn't as bad as it had been yesterday. Nothing to sue anyone over--besides people are too sue-happy these days. Mary >besides people are too sue-happy these days. > >Mary Too true. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. SignatureEverything in Moderation - Except Laughter. >>besides people are too sue-happy these days. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. besides, it's a temporary problem (the pain in my armpit from the procedure) |
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