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Accu-Check Advantage vs. OneTouch Ultra

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Lou - 23 Oct 2005 04:12 GMT
Would anyone care to make a comparison between these two meters?
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RK - 23 Oct 2005 04:54 GMT
| Would anyone care to make a comparison between these two meters?

I have used both... by no comparison... the Ultra is far better
the best meter.  -- though, I use the softclix lancer with my ultra. <g>

RK, t1
pinecone - 23 Oct 2005 08:26 GMT
I have both (also Freestyle).  I like them in the following order:

1. Freestyle Flash--tiny purse-sized so easy to carry, uses tiny amount
of blood, and fast.
2. Ultra--fastest and relatively small amount of blood.
3. Advantage--The newer ones may be better.  My year old one seems to
be most accurate when repeat testing within a minute of so of last test
compared to others--mine is much slower and requires much larger amount
of blood, so once I ran out of strips, I stopped using it--nicknamed it
"Vlad."
Cloud Burst - 24 Oct 2005 04:53 GMT
I just got my new OneTouch Ultra yesterday.  My old one is an
Accu-Check Advantage.  

The OneTouch is consistently 20%-25% lower than the Accu-Check.  
All readings were made at the same time.  Both were properly
calibrated.  

Confucius say "Man with one watch know what time it is, but
man with two watches never quite sure!"  I can now identify
with this proverb.  

CB
Jenny - 24 Oct 2005 17:47 GMT
> The OneTouch is consistently 20%-25% lower than the Accu-Check.  
> All readings were made at the same time.  Both were properly
> calibrated.  

How old was your Accu-chek? Mine matched lab readings for several
years--up through this past June. But recently I started to wonder about
it, and then, this past week, it suddenly started acting like a random
number generator.

I bought a cheap Walgreens meter, for comparison and the Accuchek was
all over the place--the new meter would read 125 and the accucheck would
read 170 one time, then they'd match at another time, then the Accuchek
would be 25% lower.

The people at the Accuchek regular customer service number sent me new
control solution last month, and it tested out okay.  But I called a
different, replacement number at Roche that my health insurer gave me,
and the woman there told me that the Advantages tend to stop working
properly at about 2.5 year old. That just happens to be the age of this
one. (She didn't know that.)

They sent me an Aviva and it matches the Walgreen's meter very
closely--within a few mg/dl.

So it is possible your Advantage meter was getting old.  TOO BAD that
Accuchek's general customer service number doesn't give out the same
information that their replacement line does!

--Jenny

http://www.geocities.com/lottadata4u/  Type 2 Diabetes info
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/  Low Carb info
Cloud Burst - 25 Oct 2005 19:54 GMT
>> The OneTouch is consistently 20%-25% lower than the Accu-Check.  
>> All readings were made at the same time.  Both were properly
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>--Jenny

Mine is about that old, maybe a little older.  Does anyone know a way
to get a one-time check someplace, just for comparison with my new
OneTouch that I will take with me?  

CB
Peter G. (Bigbird) - 25 Oct 2005 22:11 GMT
>>> The OneTouch is consistently 20%-25% lower than the Accu-Check.
>>> All readings were made at the same time.  Both were properly
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> CB

Could it be time to change the battery, even if the "low battery" warning
hasn't yet appeared?

Peter G.
David - 24 Oct 2005 02:39 GMT
> Would anyone care to make a comparison between these two meters?
go with the U.S.
pinecone - 24 Oct 2005 20:15 GMT
The UltraSmart has a lot of additional useful features that make it the
one I generally choose.  It stores/reports a lot more data and provides
much easier computer access compared to the others.
Gary Woods - 24 Oct 2005 20:34 GMT
>The UltraSmart has a lot of additional useful features that make it the
>one I generally choose.  It stores/reports a lot more data and provides
>much easier computer access compared to the others.

The computer software (free if you download it) is infinitely better than
Roche's.  You'll only pay for the necessary interconnect cable, unless your
wheedling skills are better than mine.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic
Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G
pinecone - 25 Oct 2005 07:27 GMT
Yes, I downloaded the software for free.  I see no use for another box
to gather dust or CD to occupy a slot until it becomes obsolete and
then ends up in a landfill.

pc
pinecone - 30 Oct 2005 06:45 GMT
Lou,

My diabetes doc let me use a new Accuchek Advantage in his office that
had just been tested, and it was a lot faster than my old Accuchek--I'm
not sure how much blood it needs, since I did a large drop so they
could pipette some for another purpose.  But I noticed it was about 7
points higher than my UltraSmart that I had used about 20 minutes
earlier.

pc
bob - 30 Oct 2005 15:12 GMT
One of the things I "liked" about the UltraSmart was the ability to use a
USB cable and then download the results into their software.  But this is a
really klunky program! It even looks like something a programming class
might have as a semester project. I'm glad that I tried the manual entres
before buying that $30 cable or I'd really be pissed.

As it is, I am creating an ordinary Excel file which will show charts. It
will take a while, but should be as good.  Unless, of course, somebody has
already done this and offers it....? [broad hint]

bob

> Lou,
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> pc
Peter G. (Bigbird) - 30 Oct 2005 16:43 GMT
Hi Bob,

Check out HEALTH software at http://wave.prohosting.com/ugleeeee/index.html.
I've been using it for almost two years with manual entries and chart
everything I need. It even has a diary module. And it's FREE. The writer
updates it fairly often.

Peter G.

> One of the things I "liked" about the UltraSmart was the ability to use a
> USB cable and then download the results into their software.  But this is
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>> pc
bob - 30 Oct 2005 20:33 GMT
Oh Wow!
That is 10 x better than anything I could have written [and 50 x better than
Ultrasmart]
Many thanks! [saved me hours of struggling]

> Hi Bob,
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> >> pc
pinecone - 31 Oct 2005 08:57 GMT
Bob,

I do agree that a good programmer who also understands diabetes could
do a better job, but it's hands down better than the software available
from other meter companies.  For the average novice or busy person,
it's relatively easy to print off the "big pieces" and show them to a
doctor.  I wouldn't steer most users away from it.

I use SPSS with survey software, and even there, I tend to import the
data into Excel first and do initial cleanup before I export it to SPSS
and run the hardcore stats.

pc
Hi_Therre - 31 Oct 2005 21:37 GMT
>Lou,
>
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>points higher than my UltraSmart that I had used about 20 minutes
>earlier.

The Advantage meter typically reads 20 - 30 points than any other
meter I have.  Others have said the same thing.  Use the accu chek
complete meter for better accuracy.  It is about the same as the one
touch ultrasmart meter.  The complete meter can be purchased for just
a couple bucks off ebay.
 
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