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Wooly - 21 Oct 2005 02:44 GMT
Yuck, yuck.  I tried some of that non-fat half-and-half (oxymoron:  if
there's no fat it can't be half-and-half) crap.  Problems I
encountered above and beyond the "taste" factor and the floaties:

1.  I make cappucino every morning.  Fake 50/50 doesn't froth.  At
all.  Fake 50/50 just lays there, gets hot, and curdles when
oversteamed.

2.  Fake 50/50 doesn't have the nice round mouth feel of an honest
dairy product.  This is undoubtedly due to the fact that fake 50/50 is
NOT an honest dairy product but rather some adulterated form of no-fat
milk with lots of added thickeners in an attempt to make something
resembling true dairy half-and-half

3.  Did I mention the floaties and crappy taste?

4.  I had to use a piece of steel wool to clean the steam wand on my
espresso machine after my abortive attempts at frothing this stuff.
This is normally an operation undertaken with a damp rag but that fake
50/50 stuck like superglue.  Ugh.

Weight loss or no weight loss requirement, I poured the stuff down the
drain.  I'll find somewhere else to cut a few calories out of my diet
- but I ain't messing with my caffeine no more!

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This practice has cut my spam by more than 95%.  
Of course, I did have to abandon a perfectly good email account...
pinecone - 21 Oct 2005 03:08 GMT
Wooly,

We must be reading from the same songsheet.  I got desperate and mic'd
a cup of fat free milk and added a heaping teaspoon of cocoa and added
fat free whipped topping.  Talk about sub-standard!  I should have gone
for the 1% lowfat milk and the lowfat whipped topping instead (for the
same reasons).

Cody
Ricavito - 21 Oct 2005 03:19 GMT
> Wooly,
>
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>
> Cody

Hi Wooly and Pinecone,

What finally worked for me was nuking 1% milk mixed with bitter cocoa
and Splenda, then frothing it with a hand held blender.  I'm still
working on the proportions of bitter cocoa and Splenda to add, but it
tastes allllmost like a Starbucks' mocha at a fraction of the cost.
The espresso is the hardest to master for me.

Ricavito, still hanging on to her last addictions (coffee and chocolate)
pinecone - 22 Oct 2005 09:39 GMT
Ricavito, you saved the cold/rainy day!  Last night I nuked 1% milk,
mixed it with a slightly heaping teaspoon of bitter cocoa and a package
of Sweet and Low and then added a couple tablespoons of lowfat Cool
Whip.  It was pure ambrosia!

Life is good!  (Of course, I'm up too early, so the caffeine probably
wasn't a good thing!)

pc
Ricavito - 23 Oct 2005 00:12 GMT
> Ricavito, you saved the cold/rainy day!  Last night I nuked 1% milk,
> mixed it with a slightly heaping teaspoon of bitter cocoa and a package
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>
> pc

Yep, chocolate is one of those necessary pleasures, and this is a
fairly guilt-free way to enjoy it!  I followed your example and bought
some lowfat cool whip today for tomorrow morning's mocha :-)
bj - 23 Oct 2005 01:12 GMT
> Yep, chocolate is one of those necessary pleasures,

No it's not.
It's one of the basic food groups.
:)
bj
Ricavito - 23 Oct 2005 02:49 GMT
> > Yep, chocolate is one of those necessary pleasures,
>
> No it's not.
> It's one of the basic food groups.
> :)
> bj

Yes indeed, it's like somewhere near the bottom of the food pyramid,
right?  :-P
bj - 24 Oct 2005 01:37 GMT
>> > Yep, chocolate is one of those necessary pleasures,
>>
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> Yes indeed, it's like somewhere near the bottom of the food pyramid,
> right?  :-P

Actually, I think it's closer to what's on the label of iodized salt --
"contains iodide a necessary nutrient"
chocolate is also a necessary nutrient!
Fortunately there are some chocolates that are acceptable on the low iodine
diet, even some w/o any soy derivatives (some are ok on this test-prep-diet,
but some of us don't use those either). Two popular/frequent questions about
the lid are "what can I put in my coffee instead of milk" (no real solution
there) and "WHAT ABOUT CHOCOLATE?!"
bj
Colleen - 23 Oct 2005 01:20 GMT
Don't wanna rain on your parade but Cool Whip is almost pure trans-fat.
You'd be better off with a dap of the real stuff.  The main ingredient in
Cool Whip is hydrogentated vegetable oil, i.e., trans fat.  I'm not sure how
much is in the low fat but I'd read the lable.  I don't care at all for
those non-dairy products.  They feel waxy to me.  I also agree on the
fat-free so called half and half.  Sweetheart bought some a couple weeks ago
thinking he was saving me some calories and fat.  The stuff is nasty and
tasteless.  Even kitty wouldn't drink it.
c

> Ricavito, you saved the cold/rainy day!  Last night I nuked 1% milk,
> mixed it with a slightly heaping teaspoon of bitter cocoa and a package
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>
> pc
Ricavito - 23 Oct 2005 02:47 GMT
> Don't wanna rain on your parade but Cool Whip is almost pure trans-fat.
> You'd be better off with a dap of the real stuff.  The main ingredient in
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> tasteless.  Even kitty wouldn't drink it.
> c

Yes, you are right about the cool whip Colleen, I just read the package
ingredients.  I know that if I whip the beejesus out of really cold
milk, it will thicken up although not like real whipping cream.  But
really, the calorie and fat load in a little dab of the real thing
isn't too bad so why the heck not.  

Ricavito
Colleen - 23 Oct 2005 05:29 GMT
It's all a matter or portion.  One doesn't need 1/2 of whipped cream on top
of coffee like I see in the (yuck) Startakeyourbucks place.  A dollop from a
tablespoon is enough.  To me, Cool Whip is just plain nasty.  I guess I've
learned to like real foods more now.
c

>> Don't wanna rain on your parade but Cool Whip is almost pure trans-fat.
>> You'd be better off with a dap of the real stuff.  The main ingredient in
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>
> Ricavito
pinecone - 23 Oct 2005 07:54 GMT
Yeah, but 2 tablespoons of Cool Whip is also negligible--especially as
frequently as I drink cocoa!  And I can foist the rest off at church
tomorrow, where people will gobble it up on pie at the coffee hour and
be my best friends!   If I buy the good stuff, I'll have cocoa every
night--just because, and definitely *not* share it at church!!!
;)  

pc
Patti - 21 Oct 2005 06:30 GMT
> Weight loss or no weight loss requirement, I poured the stuff down the
> drain.  I'll find somewhere else to cut a few calories out of my diet
> - but I ain't messing with my caffeine no more!

I'm with you there, Wooly. I can go without a lot of things in the food
department, but a good tasting breve is not one of them. I'll take the
regular 50/50 and cut somewhere else.

Patti
 
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