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Diabetic healing from Trauma to arm

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anon - 18 Oct 2005 20:37 GMT
What factors into a Diabetic (type ii) healing from a trauma injury. Took a
hard fall on my elbow area (as in 6 inches of trauma - really bad scrape,
bruise and cuts) from a bike fall this past saturday.

Does my sugar level directly affect my healing speed?
David - 18 Oct 2005 20:55 GMT
> What factors into a Diabetic (type ii) healing from a trauma injury. Took a
> hard fall on my elbow area (as in 6 inches of trauma - really bad scrape,
> bruise and cuts) from a bike fall this past saturday.
>
> Does my sugar level directly affect my healing speed?

better that you injured your arm than your feet.  DM's often have a hell
of time with foot injuries.  sometimes they get amputated because they
don't heal, but of course, you'd have to be one of those who doesn't
keep his bg under control in order to lose a foot from poor circulation.

dave
Ma¢k - 18 Oct 2005 22:10 GMT
>> What factors into a Diabetic (type ii) healing from a trauma injury. Took a
>> hard fall on my elbow area (as in 6 inches of trauma - really bad scrape,
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>
>dave

circulation problems is not the only thing that leads to amputations
for diabetics.

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bj - 18 Oct 2005 21:00 GMT
> What factors into a Diabetic (type ii) healing from a trauma injury. Took
> a hard fall on my elbow area (as in 6 inches of trauma - really bad
> scrape, bruise and cuts) from a bike fall this past saturday.
>
> Does my sugar level directly affect my healing speed?

Maybe. Especially if you're not in good control.
I had no trouble healing from surgeries -- rotator cuff (rehab is another
matter, but the wound itself healed just fine) & thyroidectomy.
bj
guy williams - 18 Oct 2005 22:01 GMT
>> What factors into a Diabetic (type ii) healing from a trauma injury. Took
>> a hard fall on my elbow area (as in 6 inches of trauma - really bad
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>matter, but the wound itself healed just fine) & thyroidectomy.
>bj

In my case, poor control is a big factor in trauma
healing.   Control is a necessary item  anyway.

finding the proper doc is so important  
Docs are not qualified in all areas.

                        Guy
Grandpa Chuck - 18 Oct 2005 21:12 GMT
>What factors into a Diabetic (type ii) healing from a trauma injury. Took a
>hard fall on my elbow area (as in 6 inches of trauma - really bad scrape,
>bruise and cuts) from a bike fall this past saturday.
>
>Does my sugar level directly affect my healing speed?

Oh my, yes!

A couple months back an MD spoke at out local diabetes support group
meeting. He said, "Anytime your BG is 200 or above there is NO healing
of any injury."

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W. Baker - 18 Oct 2005 21:42 GMT
: What factors into a Diabetic (type ii) healing from a trauma injury. Took a
: hard fall on my elbow area (as in 6 inches of trauma - really bad scrape,
: bruise and cuts) from a bike fall this past saturday.

: Does my sugar level directly affect my healing speed?

Well, I lived through a hubeus bone broken in 3 places with additional
shoulder damage.  As I ws feelign so awful at first, I could barely eat,
so my bg's did not get too bad.  It is a battle when in pain, etc to keep
the bgs down, so you hae to be extra careful of your intake of carbs.  
Just when you would like al those comfort foods yu have to avoid them:-)

It your bgs are very high they can affect healing, but if they are in a
mid range or lower, you shudl be just fine.  

eventually you will heal adn then you, like me, can post to others aboout
how to cope.  

Wendy
Ma¢k - 18 Oct 2005 22:08 GMT
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:37:12 -0400, "anon"
<nospammers@nospam.dontwriteme> Huffed and Puffed the following into
the madness of usenet:

>What factors into a Diabetic (type ii) healing from a trauma injury. Took a
>hard fall on my elbow area (as in 6 inches of trauma - really bad scrape,
>bruise and cuts) from a bike fall this past saturday.
>
>Does my sugar level directly affect my healing speed?

don't know if that type of trauma is enough to effect your BG
specifically.  However it might be enough to cause some short term BG
control problems, raising your BG. This first part is very much a YMMV
deal.   High BGs will slow the healing process and make the risk of
infection greater as well as make an infection worse and last longer.
One step in speeding the healing is to maintain as near normal
(non-diabetic) BGs as "you" possibly can.

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President, or that we are to stand by the President
right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile,
but is morally treasonable to the American public."
...Theodore Roosevelt

        (o o)  
--ooO-(_)-Ooo--------------------

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half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

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None Given - 18 Oct 2005 23:17 GMT
> What factors into a Diabetic (type ii) healing from a trauma injury. Took a
> hard fall on my elbow area (as in 6 inches of trauma - really bad scrape,
> bruise and cuts) from a bike fall this past saturday.
>
> Does my sugar level directly affect my healing speed?

Yes, and your pain/trauma can also affect your sugar.  DH had surgery on his
foot and his BGs were higher for weeks.

Also here's an interesting article I ran across today, another angle on
healing.
http://tinyurl.com/7jrby   or
http://www.dlife.com/dLife/do/ShowContent/diabetes_news/diabetes_newsarticle1011
05_vanadium_appears_to_play_role_in_speeding_recovery_from_infections.html


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anon - 19 Oct 2005 01:10 GMT
Thanks guys - I'm trying to keep the sugar at a good level (new med)  -
hopefully it will heal in due time.

>> What factors into a Diabetic (type ii) healing from a trauma injury. Took
> a
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> http://tinyurl.com/7jrby   or
> http://www.dlife.com/dLife/do/ShowContent/diabetes_news/diabetes_newsarticle1011
05_vanadium_appears_to_play_role_in_speeding_recovery_from_infections.html
rleone@hotmail.com - 19 Oct 2005 12:16 GMT
Dear Anon:
  Too late now, but next time take remember debridment is a good
thing. Hurts, but a good thing.

Robert Leone rleone@hotmail.com

About road rash on the elbow. OUCH.
anon - 20 Oct 2005 01:48 GMT
I went to my DR. today and she gave me some white cream which is used for
burns. It is quite soothing (stuff looks to me like baby rash diaper cream!)
and turns grey on the spot.

Just a bad road burn. She wanted to give me a tetnus shot, but I refused as
5 days later I'm just fine.

> Dear Anon:
>   Too late now, but next time take remember debridment is a good
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> About road rash on the elbow. OUCH.
 
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