Exercise Can Trim Deep Abdominal Fat

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outsor@citynet.net - 13 Oct 2005 13:12 GMT

It is the deep fat that increases all the risk factors for diabetes and
complications because it produces hormones that contribute to heart
disease and beta cell death and poor bg control from insulin resistance.
Lose the deep fat and the ever downward spiral can be reversed:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9672891/

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Jenny - 13 Oct 2005 16:53 GMT

> It is the deep fat that increases all the risk factors for diabetes and
> complications because it produces hormones that contribute to heart
> disease and beta cell death and poor bg control from insulin resistance.
> Lose the deep fat and the ever downward spiral can be reversed:
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9672891/

True--if you are one of the people who burn off fat during exercise. A
whole slew of research publications have come out recently which make it
clear that there is a subset of people whose muscles and mitochondria do
not process glucose and fat normally who do not lose fat with exercise.

But unfortunately, that strand of research news doesn't get the
attention that the "You are fat because you are a lazy slob" releases get.
--Jenny

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CeeBee - 13 Oct 2005 18:23 GMT

Jenny <lottadatacarbs@hotmail.com> wrote in alt.support.diabetes:

> True--if you are one of the people who burn off fat during exercise. A
> whole slew of research publications have come out recently which make it
> clear that there is a subset of people whose muscles and mitochondria do
> not process glucose and fat normally who do not lose fat with exercise.

But that is only a neglectable part of that population, and the vast
majority doesn't have these problems, so it might be valuable and viable
advice for them.

> But unfortunately, that strand of research news doesn't get the
> attention that the "You are fat because you are a lazy slob" releases get.

Well, this piece of research news wasn't about "You are fat because you are
a lazy slob". It's a well-known message again that even moderate exercise
can help to accomplish loss of abdominal fat.

Research and research news is never about "You are fat because you are a
lazy slob". What is true however is that there are some people always
_assuming_ research findings about "changing lifestyle to manage
overweight" translate one on one to "You are fat because you are a lazy
slob". But that is a problem of their perception, not of the actual content
of the findings.

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Thomas Muffaletto - 13 Oct 2005 19:30 GMT

> Jenny <lottadatacarbs@hotmail.com> wrote in alt.support.diabetes:
>
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> content
> of the findings.

I wish I had the link but I read that you don't start to burn fat or use fat
as energy until 45 minutes into the work out.
so I am guessing before that time if there are no carbs that for the first
45 minutes
you are burning muscle - actually making muscles smaller?

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anon - 14 Oct 2005 12:58 GMT

Most ARE fat, and DO get diabetes because they are lazy slobs and overeat.
Genetically they are pre-disposed to it and only if they are in great shape
will they not get it (it's a really hard battle and one which must always be
fought or you loose it).

I was one of em too!

> Jenny <lottadatacarbs@hotmail.com> wrote in alt.support.diabetes:
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> content
> of the findings.

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Evelyn Ruut - 13 Oct 2005 22:42 GMT

>> It is the deep fat that increases all the risk factors for diabetes and
>> complications because it produces hormones that contribute to heart
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> that the "You are fat because you are a lazy slob" releases get.
> --Jenny

How sad but true, Jenny :-(

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Jefferson - 13 Oct 2005 17:20 GMT

The following is an abstract. The news release above may have been
based on the full article.

Inactivity, exercise, and visceral fat. STRRIDE: a randomized,
controlled study of exercise intensity and amount -
http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/99/4/1613

Other articles in the Journal of Applied Physiology co-authored by Chris
Slentz - http://tinyurl.com/e2ulr.

Such as: Effect of the volume and intensity of exercise training on
insulin sensitivity - http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/content/full/96/1/101.

Frank

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Oct 2005 14:13 GMT

Exercise is neither necessary nor sufficient to lose any kind of fat,
deep (visceral) or otherwise when there is overeating.

In Christ's love and service forevermore,

Andrew

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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