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Aspartame -- the shocking story, The Ecologist, 2005 Sept., p. 35-51, full text: Murray 2005.09.30: thanks to Betty Martini for giving the correct author, Pat Thomas, What Doctors Don't Tell You www.wddty.co.uk : 2005.10.11
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Rich Murray - 13 Oct 2005 03:26 GMT *************************************************************
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1233 Aspartame -- the shocking story, The Ecologist, 2005 Sept., p. 35-51, full text: Murray 2005.09.30: thanks to Betty Martini for giving the correct author, Pat Thomas, What Doctors Don't Tell You www.wddty.co.uk : 2005.10.11
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From: "Dr. Betty Martini,D.Hum." <Bettym19@mindspring.com> To: "Rich Murray" <rmforall@comcast.net> Subject: Rich, you wrote about the wrong Pat Thomas Date: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:10 PM
Rich, I do wish you would check things because you put it everywhere. Pat Thomas does have impeccable credentials, but the one you wrote about is not the one who wrote the article in the Ecologist. Pat has written around 25 books. She came to the UK as a teenager. In fact, she even was associate editor at What Doctors Don't Tell You and editor of its sister publication Proof! And she has been writing about health for more than 10 years. Most of her books have been translated into multiple languages. She is an incredible writer.
Betty
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http://www.ecologist.cognita.info/archive_detail.asp?content_id=E1
http://www.theecologist.org/current.asp [ photo of cover, re aspartame ]
In this month's issue
September 2005. On sale tomorrow - August 19, 2005
Aspartame - COVER STORY Once on the list of potential Pentagon bioweapons... associated with cancer and neurological disorders... banned for years until a firm run by Donald Rumsfeld lobbied his contacts in Washington to get it legalised... and probably consumed by you within the last 24 hours.
Life after Aspartame - COVER STORY Like Aspartame, artificial sweetener Sucralose is apparently 'safe'. So why is Tate & Lyle so keen to suppress any criticism of it?
http://www.wnho.net/the_ecologist_aspartame_report.htm
Aspartame-- the shocking story of the world's bestselling sweetener The Ecologist by Pat Thomas
The Ecologist, September 2005 Cover Story, pages 35-46 Date: 2005/08/19 Author: Pat Thomas
ASPARTAME -- The Shocking Story of the World's Bestselling Sweetener
Aspartame is the most controversial food additive in history. The most recent evidence, linking it to leukaemia and lymphoma, has added substantial fuel to the ongoing protests of doctors, scientists and consumer groups who allege that this artificial sweetener should never have been released onto the market and that allowing it to remain in the food chain is killing us by degrees......
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charlie - 13 Oct 2005 10:23 GMT Perhaps you mean well but I use saccharin and I love it. I use two whole grains in coffee, hot cereal etc. Am I worried about cancer, no? I still weigh 140 and love it. I may not live another 66 years..........? I have never spent 12.00 for a bottle of Sevia either.
Charlie
charlie - 13 Oct 2005 10:23 GMT Perhaps you mean well but I use saccharin and I love it. I use two whole grains in coffee, hot cereal etc. Am I worried about cancer, no? I still weigh 140 and love it. I may not live another 66 years..........? I have never spent 12.00 for a bottle of Sevia either.
Charlie
Nico Kadel-Garcia - 13 Oct 2005 11:57 GMT > Perhaps you mean well but I use saccharin and I love it. I use two > whole grains in coffee, hot cereal etc. Am I worried about cancer, no? > I still weigh 140 and love it. I may not live another 66 > years..........? I have never spent 12.00 for a bottle of Sevia either. I miss cyclamates. They tasted a lot better than saccharin or aspartame, and the tests that got them canned were really poorly done and poorly evaluated.
Rich Murray - 13 Oct 2005 16:46 GMT Thursday October 13 2005
The evidence against saccharine and cyclamate is very weak.
I've been using simple green stevia powder, sold at Wild Oats for $ 2/oz, adding a half-teaspoon, along with the same amount of cinnamon and plain soy milk to my 16 oz mug of black or green tea three times a day. I've also found that a teaspoon of sugar, which I rarely use, is all I want in my tea. I'm not using anything else that is supersweet, such as jam, honey, candy, chocolate, cookies, breads.
I've found that two teaspoons of vinegar and about a tablespoon of chili powder in a pint or quart of hot vegetables mixed with pre-cooked potato, brown rice, split peas, with zucchini, tomato, onion, red and green peppers, two tablespoons of flax seeds, a tablespoon each of walnuts and almonds, 1 cup of cabbage, 1 tablespoon garlic powder, makes a delicious, easy to make, very healthy, affordable meal for breakfast and dinner, with little clean-up, and plenty of steady energy all day without any lunch or snacks. I've never enjoyed cooking and eating so much in my 63 years. I simply mix it all up in a quart pyrex bowl, and microwave it for 7 minutes, until the sliced cabbage on top is wilted, yet crunchy.
So, with this invention this summer, I've become a very happy vegan, no longer eating a quart of organic air-popped popcorn or 2 slices of toasted sprouted grain cinnamon raisin bread.
In mutual service, Rich
>> Perhaps you mean well but I use saccharin and I love it. I use two >> whole grains in coffee, hot cereal etc. Am I worried about cancer, no? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > and the tests that got them canned were really poorly done and poorly > evaluated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1230 recent research re aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity: Murray 2005.10.12
Rich Murray, MA Room For All rmforall@comcast.net 505-501-2298 1943 Otowi Road Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/messages group with 149 members, 1,233 posts in a public, searchable archive http://RoomForAll.blogspot.com http://AspartameNM.blogspot.com
Ma¢k - 13 Oct 2005 20:09 GMT >Thursday October 13 2005 > >The evidence against saccharine and cyclamate is very weak. > >I've been using simple green stevia powder, sold at Wild Oats for $ 2/oz, Wild Oats Search Results for green stevia powder:
We are sorry there were no matches for "green stevia powder", please double check your spelling and try again
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Rich Murray - 13 Oct 2005 23:49 GMT http://www.wildoats.com/u/home/
http://www.wildoats.com/u/contact/
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At 3:59 PM, I called Will Wheeler, who went to check and verified that bulk green stevia herb powder has PLU # 1105 and sells for $ 2.25/oz .
Ma¢k, and Eddie, I notice that you are highly motivated to persist in seeing me as a totally evil, deceptive, dangerous person, from whom you have to defend the members of your groups by denouncing me and my posts -- a commendable purpose, in itself......
Wouldn't your mission be far more successful if you simply take a few minutes to find any of the multitude of specific, obviously deliberately deceptive, errors in any of my posts?
Wouldn't your service to fellow diabetics be more successful if you could specify specific facts about me?
I am an American, age 63, with a clean legal record, full-time employment since October 1988 as a home hospice care provider, having worked for all the home health care agencies in Santa Fe, as well as directly for many families, and deeply involved since 1967 in spiritual studies, giving up pot and LSD in August 1980, cigarettes in 1984, and now never use alcohol, which after age 30 I only used rarely in small amounts -- did get drunk 3 or 4 times in my '20's. I have two daughters and four grandchildren, all well and happy.
You can search Google Groups to study my posts since 1996: rmforall@Rt66.com rmforall@earthlink.net rmforall@msn.com rmforall@att.net rmforall@comcast.net rmforalla@earthlink.net ( identity used when travelling with my laptop ) JoelSol@earthlink.net ( a humorous, inarticulate identity I used for some months in 2001, mainly on HealthFraud@ssr.com group -- I no longer use alternative or hidden identities, since my strategy is to establish complete public credibility as myself )
Go for it.....
In mutual service, Rich
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aspartameNM/message/1230 recent research re aspartame (methanol, formaldehyde) toxicity: Murray 2005.10.12
Rich Murray, MA Room For All rmforall@comcast.net 505-501-2298 1943 Otowi Road Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505
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Here's the earliest post I have saved on my hard drive:
From: "Richard Thomas Murray" <rmforall@Rt66.com> To: "Jackie Yeo" <JMYeo@aol.com> Cc: <rmforall@Rt66.com>; <GGMurray@uriacc.uri.edu>; "Joseph H. Rowe" <74750.1231@compuserve.com>; <sethnet@efn.org>; "Eugene F. Mallove" <76570.2270@compuserve.com>; "Jed Rothwell" <72240.1256@compuserve.com>; "John Logajan" <~logajan@skypoint.com>; <vortex-L@eskimo.com> Subject: San Jose del Cabo, Baja California, Mexico, May 9-20: cold fusion manifestation Date: Monday, May 06, 1996 12:37 AM
Dear Jackie Rae and Daren , Gail and Dan, Yusuf and Catherine,
Sondra and I will be on the beach 11 days-- just occurred to me I might be able to connect with AOL there. If I can, I'll write immediately.
The three 6-hr day work in El Dorado vanished last week-- I'm grateful to have the time free, and am clearing out my little travel trailer there, so I can sell it. I'll base myself in the second trailer in Pecos, with the intention of making it comfortable, clean, and orderly: there's a lot of peaceful work ahead. I've just spent three days there, cleaning, arranging, fixing, while making copies of five Gangagi videos. She'll be here June 8 for nine satsangs.
It's 11:25 PM here at Hope House. My client arrived sun-red at 8 PM after a day out. I gave him a foot massage with lotion: his feet have normalized remarkably in the last three months.
Tech support at Route 66 finally came up with a subtle tweak to my Windows 3.1 that causes my new IBM Thinkpad to function very well on the Net. I spent two hours Friday night reading a news group on the famous "Taos Hum", which actually is a world-wide effect. I believe I've sensed it twice during daytime meditation last year: something like a subtle gentle quiver. A few months ago, Sondra couldn't sleep, hearing something like a diesel truck idling a block away, and actually went out to look. Nothing there at midnight, which is a classic story of the genre. Have any of you sensed anything?
More exciting is the remarkable explosion of "cold fusion" experiments, actually about a dozen different processes. I remember in July, 1985, while visiting Gail, I spent a week at URI Library, reading about a small-scale approach to "aneutronic fusion" by Bogdan Maglich. I wonder now if that caused me to wander "sideways" across probable timelines of history into the one I'm in now, in which the proliferation of simple, small scale, safe, normal temperature reactions is outrageous, dumbfounding, a multifaceted foolishness that only the worst, most banal, and tactless of science-fiction writers would have dared pen before 1989. One researcher at Texas A&M, Wolff had run some cold fusion cells with mediocre results a few years ago, and become a skeptic, only to find by an accidental analysis that the palladium used had accumulated trace but unmistakable amounts of unexpected elements: he kept it a secret, until the story was leaked by a colleage a year ago. Now Bockris at the same school has replicated the discovery, proving the existence of alchemy at normal temperatures. So, since January, I've been monitoring, as a "lurker" the forums where these explorations are candidly shared.
This is a type of spiritual healing practice. I am aware that the infinity is here, all of it, vast, playful, witty, subtle, spontaneous, creative, inexhaustible, willing to release itself without restraint into any "interactive games" within itself that dare allow the rules to evolve, or the whole board be overthrown. Any developments that favor the accelerated evolution of all parties within itself are highly energized. Somehow, the trick is, in a sober sort of way, to absolutely throw all caution to the wind. The more we simply delight, without fear or resistance, in remarkable and constantly unexpected developments, the more we have on a daily personal and global basis. For instance, I'm willing, even expecting, to have a homemade "cold fusion" heater in my mobile home this winter. OK, infinity?
As one, Rich Murray Santa Fe, NM
>>Thursday October 13 2005 >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > We are sorry there were no matches for "green stevia powder", please > double check your spelling and try again From: "Simm Webb" <edvanhuffel@csx.net> Subject: Re: Aspartame -- the shocking story, The Ecologist, 2005 Sept., p. 35-51, full text: Murray 2005.09.30: thanks to Betty Martini for giving the correct author, Pat Thomas, What Doctors Don't Tell You www.wddty.co.uk : 2005.10.11 Date: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:56 PM
Rich Murray wrote:
> Thursday October 13 2005 > > The evidence against saccharine and cyclamate is very weak. Not as weak as all of the lies you have been telling us for the past several month. How are all of your litigations?
Ma¢k - 14 Oct 2005 03:02 GMT > giving up pot and LSD in >August 1980, and now never use alcohol, which after age >30 I only >used rarely in small amounts -- did get drunk 3 or 4 times in my '20's. You must be one of those rare exceptions, pot smoker and LSD user who rarely drank?
I hope you are not related to Pinocchio.
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Jesus never hated anyone.
Simm Webb - 14 Oct 2005 03:04 GMT > http://www.wildoats.com/u/home/ > > http://www.wildoats.com/u/contact/ Just another bunch of lies which have stunk up the internet from axis to axis. Rich, why don't you take the mad woman and disappear. We have been punished with your lies for too long.
Simm Webb - 13 Oct 2005 20:56 GMT > Thursday October 13 2005 > > The evidence against saccharine and cyclamate is very weak. Not as weak as all of the lies you have been telling us for the past several month. How are all of your litigations?
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