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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / October 2005Holy crap!! The Byetta really worked!
I just took my 1st injection with Byetta combined with taking two 500 MG of Metformin ER and WOW! Ate Lasagna for dinner which after 2 hours my blood would be at about 200 or higher before with Actos. It's 106. I haven't been below 120-140 for the past 3 months so this is a real treat. Glad I found something that really works. And yeah, I shouldn't be eating lasagna really either....... David > I just took my 1st injection with Byetta combined with taking two 500 MG of > Metformin ER and WOW! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > David About once a month we get a whole bunch of Byetta promotions in here. Susan Susan, I'm not a Byetta promotion at all. Real user here. David > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Susan btw, I don't post here often at all as there is too much negative bullshit here. > Susan, I'm not a Byetta promotion at all. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> >> Susan > I don't post here often at all as there is too much negative bullshit >here. And since you post anon (something I heartily endorse in some circumstances), you can't expect to be treated as anything but one of the trolls. My endo decided against adding Byetta; my control is too good. Damn! I was hoping for that weight loss thing, though I have been shaving off 4-5 pounds on each 3000-mile/90 day checkup. Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G Your own post is pretty negative. ;-) -- Cheri anon wrote in message ... >btw, I don't post here often at all as there is too much negative bullshit >here. > Your own post is pretty negative. ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >>here. Ya know, ever since that drug came out, we've had these bi-weekly or monthly queries about "anyone here using Byetta?" or "Wow, Byetta!," etc... That and the invitation to a forum just to discuss the alleged miracles of Byetta use. Someone ought to investigate the origination and connections of these posters and any connections to the pharma. Susan Go right ahead. by the way, this morning about an hour after eating breakfast I started feeling really nauseas. It obviously was a reaction to the byetta so it is not without side effects. Hopefully the weight loss will be worth it and I'll get used to the nausea. If it continues, I won't last very long with it. David x-no-archive: yes > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Susan David...... from what i hear, it takes the first month to fully settle into the byetta so that it doesn't cause the nausea............... everyone that overcomes the nausea emphasizes to take the byetta seconds before your first bite of food for breakfast and dinner second month....... you are clear on the nausea feelings and you move up to the 10 mg pen twice a day good luck! kate (heresay only...... not personal experience with byetta)  SignatureJoin us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ http://www.diabetic-talk.org/freeveggies.htm I have no medical qualifications beyond my own experience. Choose your advisers carefully, because experience can be an expensive teacher. > Go right ahead. > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > > > Susan Thanks. Yes, I ate right after I took the shot, but man, I felt really sick for most of the morning (about 2 hours). Didn't vomit, but felt bad enough to not even consider exercising (I do it in the am). > David...... from what i hear, it takes the first > month to fully settle into the byetta so that it [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] >> > >> > Susan On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:56:50 -0400, "anon" <nospammers@nospam.dontwriteme> Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet: >Go right ahead. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >David You hope to get used to the nausea? Do you even comprehend what you're saying? > x-no-archive: yes doesn't work when you put it that far down in the post. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. > doesn't work when you put it that far down in the post. Did IIIIIIIIIII do thaaaaaaaaat? Susan :-) > Go right ahead. > > by the way, this morning about an hour after eating breakfast I started > feeling really nauseas. > It obviously was a reaction to the byetta so it is not without side > effects. Hopefully the weight loss will be worth it You talk of weight loss in one post (this one) and troughing down to lassagne in another. Looking for a magic bullet to allow you to eat to the point you explode? SignatureBeav Reply to "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious changes) I just pop in here every now and then. I really did just start on Byetta last Thursday. My endo said to do the 5mcg for two weeks and then go to the 10mcg pen. The nausea is so bad and my bg's have gone up not down. I'll go another week on the 5 pen switch to the 10 and try that for a while but if my bgs continue to be worse than I will discuss another form of treatment with my doc. >I just pop in here every now and then. I really did just start on Byetta >last Thursday. My endo said to do the 5mcg for two weeks and then go to >the 10mcg pen. The nausea is so bad and my bg's have gone up not down. >I'll go another week on the 5 pen switch to the 10 and try that for a >while but if my bgs continue to be worse than I will discuss another >form of treatment with my doc. besides the byetta, what is your management regime like? diet, exercise other meds? did you make any changes besides adding the byeta? and a helpful note. seeing that you are posting via webTV you may want to turn off your signature file. It shows up as either a file attachment or as html code. Newsgroups, unless they have the word binary or binaries in the newsgroup name are not to have files posted to them and all newsgroups are to be plain text no html, rich text etc. Some news servers in order to cut down on spammers and scammers as well as to NOT waste drive space by allowing binaries in non-binary groups will auto delete posts that have them, including posts like yours. This means that as the posts propagate and spread across servers some people may never see your posts because a news server in the chain deleted it. I understand this is confusing to people using webTV or google as the only way to view them is through a web browser interface. However USENET newsgroups are a separate part of the internet with it's own standards. Binaries in binary groups only and always post using plain text. Doing so will prevent your posts from being deleted by the servers and will help to keep the free news servers free. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. > and a helpful note. seeing that you are posting via webTV you may > want to turn off your signature file. It shows up as either a file [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > groups will auto delete posts that have them, including posts like > yours. That explains why I don't see the posts, I have my filter set to not download the messages that have attachments SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes I apologize for not removing the sig in the previous post. I realized after I hit send. Again I apologize. Anais >I apologize for not removing the sig in the previous post. I realized >after I hit send. Again I apologize. > >Anais no biggy, at least you a kind enough to admit the mistake. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. Ma¢k asked what else I was doing for my diabetes control. I made changes through the yrs cutting down on breads, potatoes, rice. I cut my juice drinking from downing a half gallon a day to a couple of frozen 3oz plastic cups once in a while not every day. I also drink a lot more water with lime or lemon slices. I am now addicted to S.Pellegrino, but Perrier will do. I am on 10 glipizide 2x a day 224mcg synthroid, 15 coumadin, 5mcg byetta, foltex. I was on metaformin for about 2 and half months but the difference was about 20-30 pts diff than not being on it and the side effects were not easy to deal with. I know, I know the worst case of runs is easier than blindness or amputation. My endo suggested I try the byetta to see if that would help. I lost 80lbs kept it off for about 3 yrs. Got sick had ITP ended up in the hospital for several weeks was put on a high dose(110) of prednisone gained 70lbs my bgs were in the 500s insulin got it down to 230-250, very high still. Finally got off the prednisone after 5 months and now a yr and a half later finally lost the weight I gained. I started walking more and hopefully the byetta will help me lose a few more lbs. (110 pred was for almost 3wks then it was 100, 90, etc) Anais Pales compared to what I've seen here. > Your own post is pretty negative. ;-) > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > bullshit >>here. > btw, I don't post here often at all as there is too much negative bullshit > here. Like "Well f.ck off then" ? SignatureBeav Reply to "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious changes) On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:00:20 +0100, "Beav" <beavis.original@ntlwoxoorld.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet: >> btw, I don't post here often at all as there is too much negative bullshit >> here. > >Like "Well f.ck off then" ? >Beav Beav is such a flirt. SignatureMâck©® Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o o) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." Jesus never hated anyone. Beav knows where it hangs. Yes, I still eat stuff like lasagna, but not as often, and in moderation. I refuse to completely change my lifestyle due to diabetes as ya got to live still. And so far on this stuff I've lost 4 lbs - that's in 3 days. > On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:00:20 +0100, "Beav" > <beavis.original@ntlwoxoorld.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Beav is such a flirt. : Beav knows where it hangs. : Yes, I still eat stuff like lasagna, but not as often, and in moderation. I : refuse to completely change my lifestyle due to diabetes as ya got to live : still. : And so far on this stuff I've lost 4 lbs - that's in 3 days. Have you tried adjusting the recipes to find a way to have yur lasagna and eat it too? For example, substitute either lenghtwise strips of eggplant or zucchini for the noodles in the lasagna. this kind of adjust ment works for me, as soes judicious use of no sugar added, low fat Edy's icecream in small portions. Rather than just eating th esame foods, try changing the consitin and keeping most of the taste. It makes you feel less deprives and your bgs will be happy. Wendy > : Beav knows where it hangs. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > works for me, as soes judicious use of no sugar added, low fat Edy's > icecream in small portions. You use ice cream in your lasagne? Just kidding but that's how it looked in the writing. I find eggplant is an excellent substitute for the noodles in lasagne. I actually like it more. Not as filling. If I want an little noodly taste I cook up some Dreamfields to go with it. I'm one of the lucky ones who can eat it with no problems. > Rather than just eating th esame foods, try changing the consitin and > keeping most of the taste. It makes you feel less deprives and your bgs > will be happy. > > Wendy > Beav knows where it hangs. > > Yes, I still eat stuff like lasagna, but not as often, and in moderation. I > refuse to completely change my lifestyle due to diabetes as ya got to live > still. > And so far on this stuff I've lost 4 lbs - that's in 3 days. Lasagna is one dish that works well for me, especially when I use a layer of sauteed zucchini in place of one of the pasta layers. But even the kind I get in a restaurant is fine unless they give me a really huge portion. SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm I tried the dreamfields pasta and thought that it tasted like crap. I cut back on my portions, eat more meatballs with pasta, but I'm not about to give up foods that I enjoy as that's not living, that's existing......... Moderation, moderation, moderation is the key. >> Beav knows where it hangs. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > sauteed zucchini in place of one of the pasta layers. But even the kind I > get in a restaurant is fine unless they give me a really huge portion. : I tried the dreamfields pasta and thought that it tasted like crap. I cut : back on my portions, eat more meatballs with pasta, but I'm not about to : give up foods that I enjoy as that's not living, that's existing......... : Moderation, moderation, moderation is the key. Have you tried using spaghetti squash as pasta with sauce and cheese, etc? also, I make a string bean(whole, lightly steamed) Italian sausage and tomato sauce dish that I call my diabetic spaghetti. My non-diabetic husband and I both enjoy this dish. I find that the quantity of real pasts tht I can tolerate is so small that it is not worth it. Wendy Have you tried using spaghetti squash as pasta with sauce and cheese, etc? ----------------- How do you do that? (how to prepare it?) You are right about the spaghetti, I can't have much of it at all without seeing #'s in the mid 200's. > : I tried the dreamfields pasta and thought that it tasted like crap. I > cut [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Wendy : Have you tried using spaghetti squash as pasta with sauce and cheese, etc? : ----------------- : How do you do that? (how to prepare it?) : You are right about the spaghetti, I can't have much of it at all without : seeing #'s in the mid 200's. : > : I tried the dreamfields pasta and thought that it tasted like crap. I : > cut [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : > : > Wendy Both dishes are really no brainers. The string beans I just trim and leave whole, microwavign them until the doneness you like. For the sausage, as I don't need all the sat fat, I poke holes in them and microwave them 1-2 mins until lots of the fat comes out. I then drain and wipe them with apaper towel , sclice them in big chunks and brown them in a pad. Add them and the sauce-home made or from a jar) to the string beans and heat until piping hot and serve. You could add cheese if you like. For the spaghetti squash I simply cut it in half lengthwise with a dahrp kie, remove the seeds and either microwave the halves cut side down or bake them, also cut side down, until tthe strands can be separated by running a fork through the flesh lengthwise. I them sauce and cheese it just like pasta and eat and enjoy. Not as good as a gret pasta, but, certainly a good substitute tht doesn't spike and can be eaten in nice quantities. wendy Thank you! I'm not much of a vegetable eater unless fries and ketchup are considered 2 of them, but I'll give em a try. I wish I liked veg's more, but never did and at 42 probably never will either. > : Have you tried using spaghetti squash as pasta with sauce and cheese, > etc? [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > wendy > Thank you! I'm not much of a vegetable eater unless fries and ketchup are > considered 2 of them, but I'll give em a try. > I wish I liked veg's more, but never did and at 42 probably never will > either. I'm older than that and there are a lot of veggies I never liked until I tried different ways to prepare them. Most of the ones DH always liked are cooked to mush, greasy, slimy, and/or sweetened. Start small, try many, experiment with different ways to cook or season. Add veggies to sauces, stews, soups, shredded and mixed into meatloaf, etc., raw and dipped in ranch dressing or guacamole. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes Well, no more nausea! Haven't felt bad in 4 days now. Haven't lost any more weight either......... But the sugar is well under control now, so I have to just give it time. The injections are totally painless, but a bit of a drag having to plan to give the injection right before dinner (we go out a lot and sometimes not from being home first). >> Thank you! I'm not much of a vegetable eater unless fries and ketchup >> are [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > stews, soups, shredded and mixed into meatloaf, etc., raw and dipped in > ranch dressing or guacamole. FROM THE ADA WEB SITE. Exenatide (brand name Byetta) is the first in a new class of drugs for the treatment of type 2 diabetes called incretin mimetics. Exenatide is a synthetic version of exendin-4, a naturally-occurring hormone that was first isolated from the saliva of the lizard known as a Gila monster. Exenatide works to lower blood glucose levels primarily by increasing insulin secretion. Because it only has this effect in the presence of elevated blood glucose levels, it does not tend to increase the risk of hypoglycemia on its own, although hypoglycemia can occur if taken in conjunction with a sulfonylurea. The primary side effect is nausea, which tends to improve over time. Like pramlintide, exenatide is injected with meals and, as with pramlintide, patients using exenatide have generally experienced modest weight loss as well as improved glycemic control. Exenatide has been approved for use by people with type 2 diabetes who have not achieved their target A1C levels using metformin, a sulfonylurea, or a combination of metformin and a sulfonylurea. MORE ON THE LINK BELOW http://google.diabetes.org/search?q=Byetta&ie=&site=my_collection&restrict=main_ site%7Cstore%7Cvgs&output=xml_no_dtd&client=my_collection&btnG.y=0&btnG.y=0&lr=& btnG.x=0&btnG.x=0&proxystylesheet=my_collection&oe=&Search.x=16&Search.y=13 SignatureTom Exercise Today = Life Tomorrow Information you can trust from the diabetes experts... Your American Diabetes Association http://www.diabetes.org/home.jsp the American Diabetes Association's Message Boards http://community.diabetes.org/n/pfx/forum.aspx?webtag=amdiabetesz&nav=index Pictures of My motorcycle and I think 2 of my doggies. http://www.adventurseofvtx1300c.com.50megs.com/photo.html >I just took my 1st injection with Byetta combined with taking two 500 MG of >Metformin ER and WOW! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > David My problem was that my insulin level was quite high (26) so it helped with the absorption of it almost immediately. > FROM THE ADA WEB SITE. > Exenatide (brand name Byetta) is the first in a new class of drugs for the [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> >> David > My problem was that my insulin level was quite high (26) 26 what? SignatureBeav Reply to "beavis dot original at ntlworld dot com" (with the obvious changes) >I just took my 1st injection with Byetta combined with taking two 500 MG of >Metformin ER and WOW! [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >David David, My doctor is condsidering putting me on Byetta. I am an obese type II diabetic. I want to know if it is causing you to lose weight. My doctor told me it is a good appetite supresant. But then I see you are eating Lasagna! So, is that my answer? LOL! Please let me know. Thanks. -Vonkie > >David > David, My doctor is condsidering putting me on Byetta. I am an obese type II > diabetic. I want to know if it is causing you to lose weight. My doctor > told me it is a good appetite supresant. But then I see you are eating > Lasagna! So, is that my answer? LOL! Please let me know. Thanks. -Vonkie I've been on Byetta for over 3 months now. It is a good appetite suppresant and I've lost 14 lbs plus my numbers have been coming down. I used to only eat low carb but now eat a small portion of whatever is on the plate. I can eat more at lunch than either breakfast or dinner but even then my appetite is much less than before. I had a hard time getting used to Byetta but now am glad I started it. Tony |
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