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The Cakes, The Potato Salad, the Fried Chicken......
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Wild Monkshood - 10 Oct 2005 03:40 GMT My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what with all the cakes, potato salads and other no-no's being brought in by concerned, well meaning friends and family. Mom, a diabetic, as well, and I are trying to plan well our impromptu meals, but I think we are not doing so great, but our blood sugars aren't too much out of line, especially considering the stress. We are encouraging other family members, mostly my brothers and sisters, to take cakes with them when they go.
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Julie Bove - 10 Oct 2005 05:46 GMT > My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But > besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > members, mostly my brothers and sisters, to take cakes with them when > they go. Sorry to hear of your loss! I remember all the food when my husband's grandma died. People were bringing it to his aunt, who at the time lived alone. She had no place to put all the food, so she had her sons bring some to my mother in law's house. Things were hectic and I don't think she knew exactly what all was brought over. There were a ton of cream filled pastries that should have been refrigerated, but since there was no room in her fridge, they had sat at room temp. for too long. We had to toss them out. Mainly what we wound up with was a ton of pasta dishes. Even though my husband's family is Italian, they got sick of all the pasta and a lot of it was tossed out. Everyone felt overwhelmed with the amount of food they got.
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Wild Monkshood - 10 Oct 2005 14:27 GMT >>My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But >>besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > it was tossed out. Everyone felt overwhelmed with the amount of food they > got. Thank you. Yes, we've already thrown out quite a bit. That's all we need, food poisoning on top of everything else. I thinking about patenting an idea about refrigerators that expand after a death in the family to hold all the food.....
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Priscilla Ballou - 10 Oct 2005 20:48 GMT > Thank you. Yes, we've already thrown out quite a bit. That's all we > need, food poisoning on top of everything else. I thinking about > patenting an idea about refrigerators that expand after a death in the > family to hold all the food..... Or rental fridges during family crises or reunions...
I'm so sorry for your loss. When my father died, we had a big family get-together at the house afterwards, and everybody brought something. The mix of foods was planned, though, with good ham, salads, vegies, breads, and desserts. My office sent a big fruit arrangement, and, after the various members of the extended family departed, we ate relatively healthily for the days following. I still remember the excellent eggplant caponata my aunt brought.
Everybody grieves in the right way for them. I hope you'll feel free to do what it is you need to do.
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None Given - 10 Oct 2005 21:58 GMT Sorry for your loss. One thing I've seen done is they have a dinner for family at the church or a community center of some kind, people bring the food there and the family doesn't get stuck with hoards of leftover food they don't have room for.
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Wild Monkshood - 11 Oct 2005 05:23 GMT > Sorry for your loss. > One thing I've seen done is they have a dinner for family at the church or a > community center of some kind, people bring the food there and the family > doesn't get stuck with hoards of leftover food they don't have room for. The Church offered and we are doing it like that in a few days....
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Wild Monkshood - 11 Oct 2005 05:22 GMT >> Thank you. Yes, we've already thrown out quite a bit. That's all we >>need, food poisoning on top of everything else. I thinking about [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Everybody grieves in the right way for them. I hope you'll feel free to > do what it is you need to do. Thank you. My main concern right now is Mom. I don't think it's totally hit me yet. Mom is a rock though, tougher than me....
> Priscilla Chris J. - 10 Oct 2005 06:09 GMT > My Father passed away Thursday. My deepest condolences, I'm so very sorry to hear this.
I lost my own Father to cancer a few years ago, and I know all too well some of what it must be like for you..
Take all the time you can to come to terms with this. Nothing makes it easy, but time is the only thing that seems to help.
>We are doing okay considering. But >besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >members, mostly my brothers and sisters, to take cakes with them when >they go. You and your mother certainly have an additional burden in these, the most trying of times.
Take care, and be there for each other.
Best wishes and condolences; Chris J.
Wild Monkshood - 10 Oct 2005 14:29 GMT >> My Father passed away Thursday. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Best wishes and condolences; Thanks. In a way it was a blessing. He was scheduled to start a course of radiation treatments and was very weak already. Like I said, we are making out pretty good right now, but I know they coming weeks will be tough.
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> Chris J. Chris J. - 11 Oct 2005 07:23 GMT > Thanks. In a way it was a blessing. He was scheduled to start a course >of radiation treatments and was very weak already. Those can indeed be nasty. I share your view on it being a blessing in that sense.
I remember all too well the pain you must be feeling. All I can think of it to say to help your Mom as best you can. Helping mine gave me a purpose when i badly needed it, and helped me as well as her.
> Like I said, we are >making out pretty good right now, but I know they coming weeks will be >tough. I can't lie to you, they will be tough, but things will get better.
Don't be surprised, or ashamed, if your emotions take you by surprise a few times. I held it together through the funeral (I had to, I gave the Eulogy) but there were odd times it hit me. The worst was months later. Some well-meaining relatives took me out to dinner in a restaurant I'd often gone to with my father. I totally lost it.
It will get better with time, but you have to give it time.
Wild Monkshood - 12 Oct 2005 06:40 GMT >> Thanks. In a way it was a blessing. He was scheduled to start a course >>of radiation treatments and was very weak already. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > It will get better with time, but you have to give it time. Good Advice.....
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Nicky - 10 Oct 2005 12:52 GMT > My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But besides > the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what with all > the cakes, potato salads and other no-no's being brought in by concerned, > well meaning friends and family. So sorry to hear of your loss : ( You need to take extra care of yourselves right now, because stress can compromise your immune system. You could try asking for specific foods? And then remembering to eat them...
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Wild Monkshood - 11 Oct 2005 05:24 GMT >>My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But besides >>the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what with all [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > yourselves right now, because stress can compromise your immune system. You > could try asking for specific foods? And then remembering to eat them... Me and Mom are making good choices, or mostly so. We are working on getting all those cakes out of the house... :)
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> Nicky. Cheri - 10 Oct 2005 15:41 GMT My sympathies to you and yours.
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> My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But >besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what Wild Monkshood - 11 Oct 2005 05:00 GMT > My sympathies to you and yours. Thanks.
> -- > Cheri [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But >>besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what Tiger Lily - 10 Oct 2005 15:45 GMT my sincere empathy for you at this time of loss
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> My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But > besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Wild Monkshood Wild Monkshood - 11 Oct 2005 05:00 GMT > my sincere empathy for you at this time of loss > > {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} Thank You. I appreciate it....
> kate Ma¢k - 10 Oct 2005 17:16 GMT On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:40:10 -0400, Wild Monkshood <wild_monkshood@bellsouth.net> Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet:
> My Father passed away Thursday. Sorry to hear that. Words are never adequate, but you are not alone.
>We are doing okay considering. Glad to hear that.
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>besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what >with all the cakes, potato salads and other no-no's being brought in by [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Wild Monkshood Yea, they mean well but they always bring not only way too much be frequently the wrong things.
You can do like I do and take the excess to the local shelter and donate it in your father's memory.
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Wild Monkshood - 11 Oct 2005 05:02 GMT > On Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:40:10 -0400, Wild Monkshood > <wild_monkshood@bellsouth.net> Huffed and Puffed the following into [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > You can do like I do and take the excess to the local shelter and > donate it in your father's memory. We're encouraging people to take something with them. We are going to donate any of his medicines and medical supplies that we won't need in the future....
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Ma¢k - 12 Oct 2005 10:22 GMT On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:02:47 -0400, Wild Monkshood <wild_monkshood@bellsouth.net> Huffed and Puffed the following into the madness of usenet:
> We're encouraging people to take something with them. We are going to >donate any of his medicines and medical supplies that we won't need in >the future.... > >Wild Monkshood do you actually have agencies in your area that still accept meds? Most localities have made it illegal to recycle meds.
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Wild Monkshood - 12 Oct 2005 23:33 GMT > On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:02:47 -0400, Wild Monkshood > <wild_monkshood@bellsouth.net> Huffed and Puffed the following into [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > do you actually have agencies in your area that still accept meds? > Most localities have made it illegal to recycle meds. I've heard that. We are going to check into it.
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Tiger Lily - 12 Oct 2005 23:51 GMT Doctors without Borders
they aren't as 'tied to the local regulations'
> > On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:02:47 -0400, Wild Monkshood > > <wild_monkshood@bellsouth.net> Huffed and Puffed the following into > > the madness of usenet: > > > >> We're encouraging people to take something with them. We are going to
> >>donate any of his medicines and medical supplies that we won't need in > >>the future.... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Wild Monkshood Wild Monkshood - 12 Oct 2005 23:54 GMT > Doctors without Borders > > they aren't as 'tied to the local regulations' If we can't work it out otherwise, I'll check into that.....
>>>On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:02:47 -0400, Wild > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >> >>Wild Monkshood Evelyn Ruut - 10 Oct 2005 19:38 GMT > My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But besides > the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what with all [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Wild Monkshood So sorry to hear of your loss :-( Hope you weather this difficult time without too much stress.
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Wild Monkshood - 11 Oct 2005 05:06 GMT >>My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But besides >>the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what with all [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > So sorry to hear of your loss :-( > Hope you weather this difficult time without too much stress. Thanks. Dad & Mom made plans years ago. The funeral was totally paid for through insurance and retirement policy and all we owed for plot, vault and opening and closing the grave was $15 for the year plaque for the plot marker. Money is not the most important thing at a time like this, but it sure eases the stress on us....
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autoclaveman2000@yahoo.com - 10 Oct 2005 20:04 GMT > My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But > besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Wild Monkshood I am so sorry for your loss. My father died 10 yrs ago and it just seems like yestarday. I was ok until the organ started at the service. Keep the good memories,toss out the bad. You are under a lot of stress and just try to eat without all the worry. That will be one less stress to have. I like the idea of an expanding frig. Ira T2
Wild Monkshood - 11 Oct 2005 05:08 GMT >>My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But >>besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I am so sorry for your loss. My father died 10 yrs ago and it just > seems like yestarday. I was ok until the organ started at the service. That's when I lost it. They played "In the Garden", which my Mother requested. When they started the "And he walks with me" part, I broke down....
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> Keep the good memories,toss out the bad. > You are under a lot of stress and just try to eat without all the > worry. That will be one less stress to have. > I like the idea of an expanding frig. > Ira T2 W. Baker - 10 Oct 2005 23:22 GMT : My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But : besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : members, mostly my brothers and sisters, to take cakes with them when : they go.
: Wild Monkshood Sending cake home with friends and reletives is a great idea!! Another is ot encourage peole to bring ca cooked chicken, or, what my sister in law brought when my Mom died, a nice home made neatloaf without a lot of breading. this really helps with meals and does no harm to the bgs.
IN our faiath, we have prayer services morning and evening for a wekek after teh fundral. As the people coming for the mornign service usually had not eaten any breakfast, I woudl put out OJ, hot coffee and lots of those cakes that kept coming. I woudl often send boxes with the teenagers to share with their frineds.
Wendy
Wild Monkshood - 11 Oct 2005 05:26 GMT > : My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But > : besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > those cakes that kept coming. I woudl often send boxes with the teenagers > to share with their frineds. Yes. We've had several roasted chickens and other foods that are BG friendly, or not so bad any ways...
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> Wendy Loretta Eisenberg - 13 Oct 2005 01:40 GMT Wild Monk, I am so sorry to hear about your loss.
It is hard under these trying times to be so careful.
My friends husband died last Friday . He had a massive heart attack. He was not a well man. He had diabetes for thirty years and until the last three years he was hardly compliant. He had a heart condition, neuropathy, pulmonary problems . I believe all of this was from the diabetes. He died in a minute.
My religion has a custom we call sitting shiva. The family sits for a week on wooden boxes and people come over to keep the family company and bring laughter into the room. They also bring food. The cakes are piled high to the ceiling. I hve been going there every day to keep her company. I am gaining weight keeping her company. The platters of food are unreal. My numbers have been good, but there are little cheats here and there.
Food is comfort and at a time like this you need a little comfort.
Again, I am so sorry for your loss.
Loretta
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Wild Monkshood - 13 Oct 2005 04:22 GMT > Wild Monk, I am so sorry to hear about your loss. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Again, I am so sorry for your loss. Thanks, Loretta.
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> Loretta > > -- > In tribute to the United States of America and the State > of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and > terrorism. Bailey's Girl - 13 Oct 2005 06:59 GMT > My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But >besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >members, mostly my brothers and sisters, to take cakes with them when >they go. All of my best wishes and prayers to you and your family. It is so hard to find words -- so I'll just send you a hug and some tissues.
:-) Wild Monkshood - 13 Oct 2005 13:56 GMT >> My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But >>besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > All of my best wishes and prayers to you and your family. It is so > hard to find words -- so I'll just send you a hug and some tissues. Thank you. I need those tissues. On top of everything else, I've got a cold... :(
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> :-) Chris J. - 15 Oct 2005 05:38 GMT > Thank you. I need those tissues. On top of everything else, I've got a >cold... :( Just what you don't need at a time like this! I'm very sorry that your problems have been added to in this way.
Just in case you are unaware of it, I wanted to mention that a cold can increase your BG levels. I had one that seemed to add about 20 bg to all my readings.
Take care..
Wild Monkshood - 15 Oct 2005 13:15 GMT >> Thank you. I need those tissues. On top of everything else, I've got a >>cold... :( [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Take care.. So far, my BG levels seem okay. Mom is sick, too, as are two of my brothers, my sister and a sister in law. Probably from all of us being in close contact. I feel better today, and Mom is nearly over her cold.
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Chris J. - 16 Oct 2005 06:14 GMT > So far, my BG levels seem okay. Mom is sick, too, as are two of my >brothers, my sister and a sister in law. Probably from all of us being >in close contact. I feel better today, and Mom is nearly over her cold. What a time for that to happen. I hope you are all over your colds soon.
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 23 Oct 2005 14:13 GMT > My Father passed away Thursday. We are doing okay considering. But > besides the grief and stress, it is a hard time to be a diabetic, what [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > members, mostly my brothers and sisters, to take cakes with them when > they go. If you are using the diabetic 2PD-OMER Approach, it should not matter how much folks bring to you.
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Andrew
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