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Porcelian veneer over PFM crown?

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BobKK47 - 26 May 2008 19:49 GMT
Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
at the gum line?    If so, will the veneer give the PFM crown a more
translucent natural look?

Thanks for information.
Steven Bornfeld - 27 May 2008 03:58 GMT
> Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
> the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
> at the gum line?    If so, will the veneer give the PFM crown a more
> translucent natural look?
>
> Thanks for information.

    While theoretically you can etch porcelain in the mouth and maybe bond
to the surface, I've never seen it done.  You still couldn't achieve
better translucency since the metal understructure is still there.  You
would also have to build up the porcelain at the gumline or opaque it if
the margin of the PFM crown is really visible.
    It would be far better to just replace the PFM crown with an
all-ceramic crown.

Steve
Amatus Cremona - 27 May 2008 18:03 GMT
Let me think,,,,

$950 for a laminate repair to an old crown

$1000 for a new crown

I can almost predict what most people would choose.

BTW, you need to address why the margin of the crown is exposed.  Look up
"Abfraction".

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>> Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
>> the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
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> Steve
Newbie@bix.nex - 31 May 2008 19:01 GMT
>Let me think,,,,
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>BTW, you need to address why the margin of the crown is exposed.  Look up
>"Abfraction".

In my practice it's:

$895 for a Chromatech Veneer

$895 for a Chromatech Crown

And... the veneer won't work.

Replace the crown with all ceramic.
John & Ninetta - 28 May 2008 01:43 GMT
Got a recent mailing from Lumineers advocating just this application....I
agree that its much more predictable esthetically just to replace the entire
crown, this time with an all ceramic one.

John

>> Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
>> the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
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> Steve
Amatus Cremona - 28 May 2008 12:10 GMT
Thank about the fee to do this.

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> Got a recent mailing from Lumineers advocating just this application....I
> agree that its much more predictable esthetically just to replace the
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>> Steve
Dr Chan - 30 May 2008 00:55 GMT
> Can a porcelain veneer be placed over a PFM upper anterior crown for
> the cosmetic purpose of eliminating the classic dark line that appears
> at the gum line?    If so, will the veneer give the PFM crown a more
> translucent natural look?
>
> Thanks for information.

Just make a new crown. It may be a little more troublesome, but it's
worth it.

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