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Crown longevity?

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Robert - 12 May 2008 16:23 GMT
I've read here and elsewhere that crowns only last 5-15 years on average.
What happens after that? Do they replace the crown or does the tooth have to
come out? Thanks.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 12 May 2008 17:12 GMT
> I've read here and elsewhere that crowns only last 5-15 years on average.
> What happens after that? Do they replace the crown or does the tooth have to
> come out? Thanks.

    Average numbers are meaningless, because of wide variation.  The tooth
may fail for other reasons--say, periodontal--that have nothing to do
with the crown.  If a well-made crown fails because there is decay at
the gumline, you could not properly consider that a failure of the crown.
    Likewise, the condition of the tooth at the point there is a problem
will generally indicate whether it is a good idea to replace the crown,
or lose the tooth.

Steve

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Robert - 12 May 2008 22:13 GMT
>> I've read here and elsewhere that crowns only last 5-15 years on average.
>> What happens after that? Do they replace the crown or does the tooth have
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> generally indicate whether it is a good idea to replace the crown, or lose
> the tooth.

Ok, I thought I had read that it lasted only 5-15 years due to normal wear
and tear. Are you saying that a well made crown (barring periodontal issues)
should last a lifetime?

Are there any special steps I should take for a crowned tooth above and
beyond a normal tooth?

Thanks.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 12 May 2008 22:37 GMT
> Ok, I thought I had read that it lasted only 5-15 years due to normal wear
> and tear. Are you saying that a well made crown (barring periodontal issues)
> should last a lifetime?

    Lifetime?  I'm breaking out in hives right now.  You know those
boilerplate release forms?  Fire, flood, terrorist activity....decay,
accidents, errant olive pit--s**t happens.  I have an elderly man who
survived a concentration camp.  He came to me with 4 large gold veneer
bridges that had been placed in a Swiss army hospital when he was
liberated.  One had a rotted abutment, and I replaced the bridge.  The
rest looked like hell, but were still functional, and he didn't want
them replaced.  AFAIK, they're still in service over 60 years later.
Most patients wouldn't tolerate the space under the pontics, the
appearance etc., but for this man's purposes it was still functional,
and I wasn't going to pressure him to replace the 3 remaining bridges.

> Are there any special steps I should take for a crowned tooth above and
> beyond a normal tooth?

Avoid olive pits in olive bread, don't chew on ice cubes, pens, pencils,
blasting caps...

Steve

> Thanks.

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Vaughn Simon - 12 May 2008 23:23 GMT
>.. don't chew on ice cubes, pens, pencils,

  OK, I plead guilty.

Vaughn
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 13 May 2008 00:53 GMT
>> .. don't chew on ice cubes, pens, pencils,
>
>    OK, I plead guilty.
>
> Vaughn

But no blasting caps, right?

Steve

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Newbie@bix.nex - 13 May 2008 01:07 GMT
>>> .. don't chew on ice cubes, pens, pencils,
>>
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>
>Steve

Right ! Strictly stick to det cord !
Vaughn Simon - 13 May 2008 22:44 GMT
> But no blasting caps, right?

  For some odd reason, that brings to mind a fake commercial on " A Prairie
Home Companion" from years ago.  It was for "Blo-Gel, the plastic explosive you
use at home".

  I believe they suggested stuck windows and home-style tooth extractions as
good uses for the product.

Vaughn
Newbie@bix.nex - 13 May 2008 22:51 GMT
>> But no blasting caps, right?
>
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>
>Vaughn

That's great !

Any chance of an audio clip of that ?
Steven Bornfeld - 13 May 2008 23:29 GMT
>> But no blasting caps, right?
>
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>
> Vaughn

Ketchuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup!
Dartos - 13 May 2008 13:45 GMT
I think the most damaging habits are night time clenching and bruxism.

If there are signs of parafunctional activity, an NTI is the best
insurance to prevent damage (for all of the teeth, not just crowns).

D

>>.. don't chew on ice cubes, pens, pencils,
>
>    OK, I plead guilty.
>
> Vaughn
Robert - 12 May 2008 23:43 GMT
>> Are there any special steps I should take for a crowned tooth above and
>> beyond a normal tooth?
>
> Avoid olive pits in olive bread, don't chew on ice cubes, pens, pencils,
> blasting caps...

Oh yeah, I'm done with chewing anything harder than a piece of toast.  But
lets say a crown fails. How is it replaced?  Is the remaining tooth weaker
the second time around?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 13 May 2008 00:53 GMT
>>> Are there any special steps I should take for a crowned tooth above and
>>> beyond a normal tooth?
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> lets say a crown fails. How is it replaced?  Is the remaining tooth weaker
> the second time around?

Usually.

Steve

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Newbie@bix.nex - 13 May 2008 01:06 GMT
>> Are there any special steps I should take for a crowned tooth above and
>> beyond a normal tooth?
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>
>Steve

Uhmmm.... you forgot det cord.  ;-)
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 13 May 2008 15:42 GMT
>>> Are there any special steps I should take for a crowned tooth above and
>>> beyond a normal tooth?
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>
> Uhmmm.... you forgot det cord.  ;-)

I had to look that up.

Make love, not war,
Hippie Steve

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Newbie@bix.nex - 13 May 2008 22:54 GMT
>>>> Are there any special steps I should take for a crowned tooth above and
>>>> beyond a normal tooth?
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>Make love, not war,
>Hippie Steve

How about ANFO ?

Nothing sadder than viewing an aging hippie. <hehe>
Funny that as their kids grew up and rebelled,
they became conservatives !  Go figure.
Vaughn Simon - 14 May 2008 02:40 GMT
> On Tue, 13 May 2008 14:42:16 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
>
> Nothing sadder than viewing an aging hippie. <hehe>
> Funny that as their kids grew up and rebelled,
> they became conservatives !  Go figure.

  My kid rebelled and voted for Obama.

  Go figure.

Vaughn
Newbie@bix.nex - 14 May 2008 05:32 GMT
>> On Tue, 13 May 2008 14:42:16 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
>>
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>
>Vaughn

Pendulum always swings to the other side, like clockwork
you know. Laws of physics, classical mechanics, and all that...

Just a primary though, 8/25-28/08 Denver should be interesting.

Chinese proverb:  "May you live in interesting times."
Seems we are.

Sun Tzu
Chapter IV. TACTICAL DISPOSITIONS

2.)  To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the
opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
[That is, of course, by a mistake on the enemy's part.]

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