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root canal and longevity survey
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Robert - 13 Jan 2008 20:12 GMT The other day on a lark I asked a 93 year old I know who is in good health whether he ever had a root canal. I was surprised to hear that he did not. He once had some implants but he told me they didn't "take" so he now just wears dentures.
So starting with this sample of one, I'd like to start a completely unscientific survey. If you know of anyone 80 or above, please ask them if they currently have a tooth that received root canal. Note their age and general health.
Post the results to this thread and I'll try to keep track of it and post the running results somewhere. So I will start with this one sample:
- Male, 93, Good health, No Root Canal treated teeth.
Newbie@bix.nex - 13 Jan 2008 20:47 GMT >The other day on a lark I asked a 93 year old I know who is in good health >whether he ever had a root canal. I was surprised to hear that he did not. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >- Male, 93, Good health, No Root Canal treated teeth. If he wears dentures shouldn't you say "No Teeth at All" ?
Moron.
Robert - 13 Jan 2008 23:12 GMT >>The other day on a lark I asked a 93 year old I know who is in good health >>whether he ever had a root canal. I was surprised to hear that he did not. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Moron. He wears uppers. I didn't say he wears only dentures.
btw - is Moron your first or last name?
Vaughn Simon - 14 Jan 2008 01:45 GMT > btw - is Moron your first or last name? You have no idea who you are talking to.
Bye Vaughn
Robert - 14 Jan 2008 03:05 GMT >> btw - is Moron your first or last name? > > You have no idea who you are talking to. Well that is sort of obvious since he doesn't identify himself. But I think I do know - it is someone who calls complete strangers "moron". I've yet to meet the person who brings enough to the table to tolerate that from (well... except my wife :)
Newbie@bix.nex - 14 Jan 2008 04:06 GMT >> btw - is Moron your first or last name? > > You have no idea who you are talking to. > >Bye >Vaughn He's talking to himself.
Amatus Cremona - 15 Jan 2008 12:54 GMT Since when does dentures mean only denture?
Don't be picking on my buddy Henry now. He may not list his name, but the OT, only gives a first name which may or may not be real.
BTW, everyone who is a regular here knows my name and I suspect JD (is she still around?) will remind you very soon. Big deal.
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> >>> btw - is Moron your first or last name? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > He's talking to himself. Robert - 17 Jan 2008 14:56 GMT > Since when does dentures mean only denture? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > BTW, everyone who is a regular here knows my name and I suspect JD (is she > still around?) will remind you very soon. Big deal. I wasn't. But maybe I reacted badly. He was the one who called me a moron. I was just responding. Guess it fell flat though.
Simplicio - 17 Jan 2008 15:27 GMT > > Since when does dentures mean only denture? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I wasn't. But maybe I reacted badly. He was the one who called me a moron. I > was just responding. Guess it fell flat though. Please, no need to apologize to these mercury pushers! ( it's almost as upsetting to watch network news)
Dartos - 21 Jan 2008 17:54 GMT Hard to be a mercury pusher when I haven't used it since 1985.
But accuracy in your posts has never seemed to matter.
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> Please, no need to apologize to these mercury pushers! ( it's almost > as > upsetting to watch network news) carabelli - 21 Jan 2008 19:22 GMT > Hard to be a mercury pusher when I haven't used it since 1985. I'm gonna go buy another CFL
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Amatus Cremona - 21 Jan 2008 20:11 GMT CFL = Canadian Football League ??
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> >> Hard to be a mercury pusher when I haven't used it since 1985. >> > I'm gonna go buy another CFL > > carabelli Dartos - 21 Jan 2008 20:31 GMT Compact fluorescent lightbulb.
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> CFL = Canadian Football League ?? carabelli - 21 Jan 2008 20:36 GMT >Mercury Laden Compact fluorescent lightbulb. > > <G> > D Fixed that for you
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Steven Fawks - 22 Jan 2008 02:28 GMT Thanks dude, I knew I could depend on you. I'm sure they will all be recycled though.
Steve
>>Mercury Laden Compact fluorescent lightbulb. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > carabelli Newbie@bix.nex - 21 Jan 2008 22:24 GMT >Compact fluorescent lightbulb. > ><G> >D > >> CFL = Canadian Football League ?? Calcium Fluoride ?
Amatus Cremona - 21 Jan 2008 23:00 GMT Cuddly Female Lamb ??
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> >>Compact fluorescent lightbulb. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Calcium Fluoride ? Steven Fawks - 22 Jan 2008 02:29 GMT > Cuddly Female Lamb ?? I live in the country, not Dan.
;-) Steve
Amatus Cremona - 28 Jan 2008 01:39 GMT I am starting to got used to seeing grain elevators & smelling cow manure.
>> Cuddly Female Lamb ?? > > I live in the country, not Dan. > > ;-) > Steve Steven Bornfeld - 28 Jan 2008 03:00 GMT > I am starting to got used to seeing grain elevators & smelling cow manure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2WlYgDe1Vs
Steve
Newbie@bix.nex - 28 Jan 2008 04:34 GMT >> I am starting to got used to seeing grain elevators & smelling cow manure. Some consider that the smell of money !
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2WlYgDe1Vs > >Steve Good clip.
Amatus Cremona - 28 Jan 2008 20:04 GMT Should I change my screen name to Eddie Albert ??
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>> I am starting to got used to seeing grain elevators & smelling cow >> manure. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2WlYgDe1Vs > > Steve Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 28 Jan 2008 20:22 GMT > Should I change my screen name to Eddie Albert ?? Not much of a family resemblence, but I'm sure you'd look even better on a tractor! We used to cycle with an Eddie Albert, who was a professor at Hofstra university. IIRC he was a medical sociologist. We used to rib him pretty mercilessly with that theme song.
Steve
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Dartos - 29 Jan 2008 15:40 GMT > Not much of a family resemblence, but I'm sure you'd look even > better on a tractor!
> Steve Now there's a thought! I have a 1961 Ford and a 1951 Model B John Deere. AC might want one that fits his screen name...Allis Chalmers D14?
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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 29 Jan 2008 15:51 GMT >> Not much of a family resemblence, but I'm sure you'd look even >> better on a tractor! [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > <VBG> > D I like it. We have relatives in Mass. who own a John Deere distributorship.
Steve
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Amatus Cremona - 29 Jan 2008 16:09 GMT There is a JD dealer across the street from the "Northern" office.
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>> >>> Not much of a family resemblence, but I'm sure you'd look even [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Steve Newbie@bix.nex - 30 Jan 2008 02:34 GMT >>> Not much of a family resemblence, but I'm sure you'd look even >>> better on a tractor! [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Steve Kubota rules !
Amatus Cremona - 29 Jan 2008 16:08 GMT LMAO !!!!
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> >> Not much of a family resemblence, but I'm sure you'd look even better [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > <VBG> > D Simplicio - 17 Jan 2008 06:20 GMT On Jan 13, 8:45 pm, "Vaughn Simon" <vaughnsimonHATESS...@att.FAKE.net> wrote:
> > btw - is Moron your first or last name? > > You have no idea who you are talking to. > > Bye > Vaughn lets see is this carabelli or WB?
Simplicio - 17 Jan 2008 06:19 GMT > <New...@bix.nex> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > btw - is Moron your first or last name?- Hide quoted text - That is a fake name, his last name is actually jackass
George - 13 Jan 2008 21:36 GMT Considering the age of this gentleman, it would not surprise me that he never had a root canal. Most caries-related problems will appear in the first 4 decades of life if the patient takes moderate care of his teeth. Most of later problems are related to perio and maintainance of heavily restored teeth. If he's 93, he would have got most caries during 1920-1954. Now during these years endodontics was still relatively new, plus there was the great depression and a world war. Most carious teeth with toothache would tend to get extracted.
Regards, George
Robert - 13 Jan 2008 23:20 GMT > Considering the age of this gentleman, it would not surprise me that > he never had a root canal. Most caries-related problems will appear in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > relatively new, plus there was the great depression and a world war. > Most carious teeth with toothache would tend to get extracted. Valid points. I'm not making any suggestions or drawing any conclusions. I would be interested if people looked around and asked the octo and nonagenarians (maybe even centenarians) that they to see if they ever had RCT. Interestingly he did try implants.
Incidentally, what do you mean by maintenance of heavily restored teeth? You mean replacing worn out crowns and stuff?
John & Ninetta - 13 Jan 2008 23:51 GMT >> Considering the age of this gentleman, it would not surprise me that >> he never had a root canal. Most caries-related problems will appear in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> relatively new, plus there was the great depression and a world war. >> Most carious teeth with toothache would tend to get extracted. I wonder if the Queen has had any teeth extracted? I bet she's had a root canal.
> Valid points. I'm not making any suggestions or drawing any conclusions. I > would be interested if people looked around and asked the octo and > nonagenarians (maybe even centenarians) that they to see if they ever had > RCT. Interestingly he did try implants. He was probably referring to pins in teeth to retain restorations, or maybe he meant posts (which, by definition, means he had a root canal). Most older folk get these confused with what we call implants (titanium, directly into bone) of today. Implants have only been around since the early 1970s, and even then, only in infancy. So, that would make him in his late 50's/early 60's when he was one of the first people in the world to get dental implants. Its possible, but you might want clarify what he means by "implants".
John
> Incidentally, what do you mean by maintenance of heavily restored teeth? > You mean replacing worn out crowns and stuff? George - 14 Jan 2008 01:08 GMT > > Incidentally, what do you mean by maintenance of heavily restored teeth? > > You mean replacing worn out crowns and stuff? Yes that too, but I was mainly referring to fillings that get replaced with larger fillings and then with even larger fillings. Often these teeth become devitalised and remain silent for years until they finally blew up. I would also like to point that patients who are not very dental-wise may not know/remember RCT by that name. Often they refer to the process as "killing" or "removing" the nerve. In some cases they may erroneously think they had RCT whereas they only had a filling or crown placed. Just some experiences I had with my patients.
Regards, George
Steven Bornfeld - 14 Jan 2008 03:25 GMT >>> Considering the age of this gentleman, it would not surprise me that >>> he never had a root canal. Most caries-related problems will appear in [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > John A couple of years ago someone posted a link to a photo of an apparent dental implant--an iron spike in the mouth of an ancient Etruscan--over 2,000 years old. Looked perfectly osseointegrated.
Steve
>> Incidentally, what do you mean by maintenance of heavily restored teeth? >> You mean replacing worn out crowns and stuff? Newbie@bix.nex - 14 Jan 2008 04:06 GMT > Its possible, but you might want clarify what he means by >> "implants". [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Steve Could have been placed post-mortem.
Frank L - 15 Jan 2008 01:35 GMT Speaking of post-mortem, two guys brought a dead man in a wheelchair to a check cashing place in Manhattan last week, to cash his welfare check. They brought him in case the guy behind the counter needed to see the recipient. Needless to say, they got caught. If you're not from NY, you probably didn't hear about it but this was hoot...we see a lot of craziness in this town but now I've seen everything.
George - 15 Jan 2008 18:45 GMT > Speaking of post-mortem, two guys brought a dead man in a wheelchair to > a check cashing place in Manhattan last week, to cash his welfare check. > They brought him in case the guy behind the counter needed to see the > recipient. Needless to say, they got caught. If you're not from NY, you > probably didn't hear about it but this was hoot...we see a lot of > craziness in this town but now I've seen everything. I live in London and it was on the papers here (you know the short stories the use to fill the empty space on pages). They were most definitely not the brightest sparks in the block.
Regards, George
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 15 Jan 2008 18:52 GMT >> Speaking of post-mortem, two guys brought a dead man in a wheelchair to >> a check cashing place in Manhattan last week, to cash his welfare check. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Regards, > George Somehow--I missed this. I did hear however about a woman arrested after being caught living in a house with the bodies of her dead husband and children. Sadly, I can't find a link. Wow, I miss the Weekly World News...
Steve
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Frank L - 15 Jan 2008 21:09 GMT Steve, here's one link of many, it was even in The New York Times:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,321197,00.html
The Weekly World, I haven't seen that in a long time...don't know if it's still on the stands. Mermaid gives birth to a Rottweiler. That was amusing reading. The story above took place in the Hell's Kitchen area, I think....the epitome of chutzpah, really, I can't believe these guys would try to pull this off!
Steven Bornfeld - 15 Jan 2008 22:19 GMT > Steve, here's one link of many, it was even in The New York Times: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for the link. Don't know how I missed this. I would think a mannequin would have been easier. I once had to buy a copy of WWN about 25 years ago to clip out and hang in my office an article "Miracle Dentist Grows New Teeth". I still wish I could refer to him. My fave headline was early in the Clinton administration: "Hillary Adopts Space Alien" showing a smiling Hil cradling an extraterrestrial. Unanswered: how many electoral votes Mars has.
Steve
Amatus Cremona - 15 Jan 2008 22:23 GMT I liked the Bat-Boy stories
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>> Steve, here's one link of many, it was even in The New York Times: >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Steve Steven Bornfeld - 15 Jan 2008 23:08 GMT > I liked the Bat-Boy stories There was an article about WWN in Newsweek when they were about to stop publishing. Bat-boy was fondly mentioned.
Steve
Newbie@bix.nex - 16 Jan 2008 02:52 GMT >> Steve, here's one link of many, it was even in The New York Times: >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Steve IIRC Hil is a fan of the 'popular' vote and not so much of the electoral college. Think Algore agrees. <hehe>
Steven Bornfeld - 16 Jan 2008 03:08 GMT > IIRC Hil is a fan of the 'popular' vote and not so much > of the electoral college. Think Algore agrees. <hehe> ouch.
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Dartos - 15 Jan 2008 19:18 GMT Made it out here too.
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>>Speaking of post-mortem, two guys brought a dead man in a wheelchair to >>a check cashing place in Manhattan last week, to cash his welfare check. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Regards, > George Amatus Cremona - 15 Jan 2008 12:55 GMT Most dental patients over 80 years of age with real teeth in their mouth have at least one RCT.
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>> Considering the age of this gentleman, it would not surprise me that >> he never had a root canal. Most caries-related problems will appear in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Incidentally, what do you mean by maintenance of heavily restored teeth? > You mean replacing worn out crowns and stuff? Robert - 15 Jan 2008 22:15 GMT > Most dental patients over 80 years of age with real teeth in their mouth > have at least one RCT. Do you know any 80 or 90 year olds in good health? Would you be able to survey them and add the results to the thread?
Dartos - 16 Jan 2008 13:24 GMT >>Most dental patients over 80 years of age with real teeth in their mouth >>have at least one RCT. > > Do you know any 80 or 90 year olds in good health? Would you be able to > survey them and add the results to the thread? First we need to define 'good health'. No meds? No more than 2 meds? Number of meds doesn't matter as long as they could walk into the office and walk out? Mental accuity?
Oh, and then pay me about a weeks wages and I can come up with some numbers<G>.
From a casual estimation from what I've seen in my practice, I think the statement is very likely true.
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Robert - 19 Jan 2008 09:00 GMT > First we need to define 'good health'. No meds? No more than 2 meds? > Number of meds doesn't matter as long as they could walk into the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > From a casual estimation from what I've seen in my practice, I think the > statement is very likely true. So let me get this straight - you are a dentist and you have no interest in the subject? I hope your lack of curiosity it not representative of your fellow practitioners in general.
If you have an 80 or 90 year old who is able to make it to your office on their own steam without assistance, I would classify them as being in good health. Are there any that you know, for a fact, have had root canal treatment, or are you just speculating?
Newbie@bix.nex - 19 Jan 2008 17:46 GMT >> First we need to define 'good health'. No meds? No more than 2 meds? >> Number of meds doesn't matter as long as they could walk into the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >health. Are there any that you know, for a fact, have had root canal >treatment, or are you just speculating? Apparently you, 'robert', have more interest and time than the actual practicing dentists that frequent SMD.
Why not do your own statistical analysis ? You could start with the bureau of census for your raw data to find the number of 80 - 90 y.o.'s in the US.
Then, you could contact each one of them individually and ask them if they ever had RCT.
Your postulation at best, is ill conceived. You have presented a foolish notion and framed it in an adversarial/accusatory manner.
When 80 - 90 y.o.'s present to my dental office we do the best we can to accomodate them and relieve their dental problems.
We also show them the utmost respect. Something you would do well to learn.
Robert - 20 Jan 2008 03:37 GMT >>> First we need to define 'good health'. No meds? No more than 2 meds? >>> Number of meds doesn't matter as long as they could walk into the [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > We also show them the utmost respect. > Something you would do well to learn. Ok, so you treat some 80-90 year olds. Are you telling me you don't know whether they have root canals or not? I'm not sure which is more appalling: that you don't know whether your patients have had root canals, or that you don't care. With a couple of rare exceptions on this list (e.g., Steven Bornfeld), the lack of intellectual and scientific curiosity in this field is astounding. Actually, it is scary.
Newbie@bix.nex - 20 Jan 2008 04:27 GMT >> When 80 - 90 y.o.'s present to my dental office we >> do the best we can to accomodate them and relieve [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Ok, so you treat some 80-90 year olds. Are you telling me you don't know >whether they have root canals or not? Said nothing of the sort. Was not telling you anything.
> I'm not sure which is more appalling: >that you don't know whether your patients have had root canals, or that you >don't care. What is more appalling and disgusting is your lack of motivation and initiative to do your own scientific study and statistical analysis to answer your own question.
We care about our patients. We just don't care about you or your preposterous premise.
>With a couple of rare exceptions on this list (e.g., Steven >Bornfeld), Leave SB out of this discussion. He is a gentleman.
>the lack of intellectual and scientific curiosity in this field >is astounding. Actually, it is scary. What is more astounding, scary, and frightful is your holier-than-thou attitude. The pseudo-intellectual that you are, resides in a fantasy world that was clearly defined in "OZ".
What gives you the right to diminish and demean the honest practitioners that frequent SMD ?
Hereby label you a "Troll" and send you to the vast abyss that is commonly known as 'never land'.
GFYS
PS Was right about calling you a 'moron' from the get go. You ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Robert - 20 Jan 2008 21:54 GMT >>> When 80 - 90 y.o.'s present to my dental office we >>> do the best we can to accomodate them and relieve [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > Was right about calling you a 'moron' from the get go. > You ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer. I was not proposing any premise. I was simply asking a question. You clearly consider asking questions to be dangerous. 'nuff said.
Steven Bornfeld - 20 Jan 2008 04:39 GMT > Ok, so you treat some 80-90 year olds. Are you telling me you don't know > whether they have root canals or not? I'm not sure which is more appalling: > that you don't know whether your patients have had root canals, or that you > don't care. With a couple of rare exceptions on this list (e.g., Steven > Bornfeld), the lack of intellectual and scientific curiosity in this field > is astounding. Actually, it is scary. I feel I must respond. First, thanks for the complement, but while I like to keep my eyes and ears open for developments in the field, as a generalist it is simply no longer possible to keep up with all the research out there. We have to be selective and cull the most important clinical information. Newbie may have a few more rough edges than I do (maybe just on usenet) but I know he is a highly skilled and respected dentist. In terms of his profession curiosity he has extended his skills far more than I--particularly in both surgery and particularly in endodontics. We have corresponded sufficiently that I know he successfully treats teeth requiring endodontic treatment that I would certainly refer to specialists. I'm not sure what specifically the aim of your question is. More important to me is whether endodontic teeth continue to function for extended periods of time. For what it's worth, I have an older practice. I would say the majority of patients over 70 have either lost most or all of their teeth, or have one or more teeth that have had root canal treatment. In the time I have been out of dental school (coming up on 32 years) the number of dentures I make has declined. The primary reasons I would credit for this are increased periodontal care and endodontic treatment. I have had patients in their 80s, 90s and at least one gentleman over 100 with root canal treatments (one of which I did 30 years ago). The one factor which may change this is the increasing use of implants. In the past we would often do root canals and crowns on questionable teeth in lieu of bridges and dentures. We now look at some badly broken-down teeth that would have a questionable prognosis with root canals and crowns and opt instead for implant replacement where possible. Generally this determination depends upon an assessment of whether a root canal and crown is likely to give a long-term successful result. So I believe that those teeth that we choose to save with root canal treatment and crown will have a better prognosis than in the past.
Steve
Steven Fawks - 20 Jan 2008 13:45 GMT > Ok, so you treat some 80-90 year olds. Are you telling me you don't know > whether they have root canals or not? I'm not sure which is more appalling: > that you don't know whether your patients have had root canals, or that you > don't care. With a couple of rare exceptions on this list (e.g., Steven > Bornfeld), the lack of intellectual and scientific curiosity in this field > is astounding. Actually, it is scary. You have been treated with much more kindness and caring than you deserve, but due to your obvious inability to comprehend what it is to be a dentist, I'll explain a little more.
Most of us on the ng have been in private practice for more than 20 years. This means that we have thousands of patients. It is impossible to have each patients chart emblazened into our memory (that's why we have the individual records at the office <duh>).
To accurately answer your question, I would have to search the patient base for patients over 80, and try to remember if they had any failings on the last appt. Then I would have to check each record to see if they have had any teeth with root canals.
I know that many of them do match your criteria, but whether that is 30% or 80%, I can't say without a lot of work. No reason to do that.
Endo is safe and effective. It does not lead to early death or debilitating illness or infirmaty.
Steve
Simplicio - 21 Jan 2008 19:56 GMT > To accurately answer your question, I would have to search the patient > base for patients over 80, and try to remember if they had any failings > on the last appt. Then I would have to check each record to see if > they have had any teeth with root canals. And we know that doing medical screening for systemic health effects of Hg or root canals just isn't taught in dental school much less (GASP!) done in actually practice by dentists. What kind of medical questionarre do you give your patients to screen for this kind of health effects?
> I know that many of them do match your criteria, but whether that is > 30% or 80%, I can't say without a lot of work. No reason to do that. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steve Typical of your self-serving dental logic. You proclaim that you cannot "know" the health of root canaled patients over 80, because you would have to "check your records", and obviously your fellow dentist's and the ADA (FDA and NiDCR all dentally run) have, not surprisingly failed to do such research. Then based on this admitted lack of data which is you and the "dental industries" own fault, not robert's (his job isn't to determine the health effects of dental procedures) you make your final grandiose proclomation "Endo is safe and effective".
Simplicio - 21 Jan 2008 20:09 GMT > <New...@bix.nex> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > Bornfeld), the lack of intellectual and scientific curiosity in this field > is astounding. Actually, it is scary.- Hide quoted text - Dentistry is completely unregulated, that's how I got posioned by my dentist and many other people get screwed by dentists. But don't be so surprised, all most industries care about is $$$, not the health of their clients. Up until know have you ever questioned the safety of root canals or other dental procedures. What is truly scary is a public that lets dentists behave in this manner. Given the public's lack of concern over what goes on in the dental profession I wouldn't be surprised by the lack of intellectual and scientific curiosity shown here (as well as the complete disregard for the health of dental patients) I would expect it!
Steven Fawks - 20 Jan 2008 03:30 GMT >>From a casual estimation from what I've seen in my practice, I think the >>statement is very likely true. > > So let me get this straight - you are a dentist and you have no interest in > the subject? I hope your lack of curiosity it not representative of your > fellow practitioners in general. Umm, I just said that I think most older Americans with most of their own teeth have probably had at least one root canal. I just do not have the time to do an accurate statistical analysis, and even if I did, the sample size would be so small that it would not have any real bearing on the whole issue.
> If you have an 80 or 90 year old who is able to make it to your office on > their own steam without assistance, I would classify them as being in good > health. Are there any that you know, for a fact, have had root canal > treatment, or are you just speculating? That's what I was getting at. What defines 'good health'? If ambulatory and self aware is enough, then yes I know of several who have not only had at least one root canal, but many of them still have a root canaled tooth still in their mouth.
Steve
Simplicio - 17 Jan 2008 06:24 GMT > The other day on a lark I asked a 93 year old I know who is in good health > whether he ever had a root canal. I was surprised to hear that he did not. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > - Male, 93, Good health, No Root Canal treated teeth. Well my great uncle died in his 80's of lung cancer, smoking, otherwise was exceptionally healthy, (bicycled across country in his 60's). I'm pretty sure he didn't have a root canal because he had a life-long fear of the dentist and never went
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