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Robert - 11 Jan 2008 21:26 GMT
I had a good number of ancient fillings replaced a few months ago. I was
told that I should expect sensitivity for up to several weeks afterwards
(something about the caustic adhesives).  However, now it is about three
months later and they still flare up from time-to-time. A different dentist
did full x-rays and said the restorations looked fine and there was no sign
of any decay or bone loss. However, is it possible that the restoration work
irreversibly damaged the pulp? How long do I wait until I decide something
has to be done? Will they stay like this forever? Thanks for any guidance.
Steven Bornfeld - 12 Jan 2008 02:56 GMT
> I had a good number of ancient fillings replaced a few months ago. I was
> told that I should expect sensitivity for up to several weeks afterwards
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> irreversibly damaged the pulp? How long do I wait until I decide something
> has to be done? Will they stay like this forever? Thanks for any guidance.

    The responsible tooth or teeth should be identified.  If these are
resin fillings bonding technique is very important, and carelessness
will lead to sensitivity.  It may be necessary to change the fillings,
but each time you put the drill on the tooth you increase the chances a
root canal will become necessary, so your dentist will want to proceed
carefully.

Steve
Newbie@bix.nex - 12 Jan 2008 07:21 GMT
>> I had a good number of ancient fillings replaced a few months ago. I was
>> told that I should expect sensitivity for up to several weeks afterwards
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>Steve

All good points.

The symptoms of irreversible pulpitis include
Sensitivity to cold, and biting/chewing.
Hot sensitivity, especially lingering is always a bad sign.
ie. indicative of irreversible pulpitis resulting in the need for RCT.

Time2time flare ups suggest a parafuntional habit or
occlusal interference. < the "bite" may be a bit off >

Irreversible pulpitis does not show on radiographs.
It is almost always diagnosed by symptoms.
Robert - 12 Jan 2008 16:32 GMT
>>> I had a good number of ancient fillings replaced a few months ago. I was
>>> told that I should expect sensitivity for up to several weeks afterwards
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>> has to be done? Will they stay like this forever? Thanks for any
>>> guidance.

>> The responsible tooth or teeth should be identified.  If these are
>>resin fillings bonding technique is very important, and carelessness
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Irreversible pulpitis does not show on radiographs.
> It is almost always diagnosed by symptoms.

Thanks for the reply. The bite seems to be fine. How long can it take to get
better if it is reversible pulpitis?  Weeks, months, years? The dentist
doesn't want to test the nerve yet since he said that could also aggravate
the pulp.
Robert - 12 Jan 2008 16:32 GMT
>> I had a good number of ancient fillings replaced a few months ago. I was
>> told that I should expect sensitivity for up to several weeks afterwards
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> you put the drill on the tooth you increase the chances a root canal will
> become necessary, so your dentist will want to proceed carefully.

Thanks for the tips. How do you tell if it is a carelessly done filling? Do
I ask the dentist to try changing the filling based on the discomfort even
though the x-rays seem to show the restorations are all good?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 12 Jan 2008 17:56 GMT
> Thanks for the tips. How do you tell if it is a carelessly done filling? Do
> I ask the dentist to try changing the filling based on the discomfort even
> though the x-rays seem to show the restorations are all good?

    Unfortunately these kinds of symptoms in real life become diagnosed by
exclusion--because the only way to really tell is to extract the tooth
and examine it under the microscope.  What is going on is inferred by
symptoms and signs--just like alzheimer's disease, where looking for
amyloid plaques in the brain is not practical.
    The nature of the pain is one way.  Is is sensitive to cold? heat?
Biting pressure?  Does the tooth hurt spontaneously?  Wake you up at
night?  Pain vary with your posture (upright/lying down)?
    The carelessness I alluded to had to do with the application of bonding
agent.  The conventional wisdom is that you must thoroughly soak all the
dentinal surfaces, and then drive off the solvent completely before
bonding.  Leaving dentinal tubules uncovered by bonding agent is said to
be responsible for sensitivity.  Desensitizing toothpastes (BTW) work
for a related reason--they cause crystallization of mineral salts in the
dentinal tubules, thereby blocking them.  This prevents movement of
fluid through the tubules.
    We may find out someday that all of this is totally false, but this is
the received wisdom of dentists now.  Since I don't have a personal
stake in placing resin fillings in back teeth (IOW, I have no problems
using amalgam or resin in the proper situations), what I would do at
this point is remove the filling, place a sedative dressing (I usually
use something called IRM) and see if the symptoms improve.  If they do,
I am more likely to place an amalgam filling in this tooth, since the
chances of postop sensitivity are lower.  It still might be possible to
place a resin filling, but I'd be extra careful, esp. since the IRM will
contaminate the dentine with eugenol.
    I wouldn't make too much of the "carelessness" comment I made.  This
happens to everyone--and there's no way you can see that all the tubules
are covered by bonding agent.  But being aware of this problem, I ALWAYS
place at least 3 or 4 coats of bonding agent, being careful to dry each
coat thoroughly before applying the next coat.  This keeps my postop
sensitivity problems to a minimum--but certainly not to zero.
    BTW, I don't know how your dentist tests your pulp, but the common ways
(cold or electric current) are neglegable risks to the pulp.

Steve

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Robert - 13 Jan 2008 02:09 GMT
> Unfortunately these kinds of symptoms in real life become diagnosed by
> exclusion--because the only way to really tell is to extract the tooth and
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> through the tubules.
> ...

Thank you for the thoughtful analysys. I will certainly discuss the option
with the new dentist. The original dentist, while very experienced, is not
one that gives the impression of taking his time.

If the tubules were not completely covered, does that mean the sensitivity
will remain there forever, or will the tooth eventually make its own
barrier? I assume the desensitizing toothpastes do not reach that far into
the tooth?

The flareups are created mostly by biting and cold. Not so much by heat.

Thanks again.
Steven Bornfeld - 13 Jan 2008 02:47 GMT
> Thank you for the thoughtful analysys. I will certainly discuss the option
> with the new dentist. The original dentist, while very experienced, is not
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Thanks again.

    Desensitizing treatments would not be expected to work well if at all.
 The sensitivity may remain or gradually diminish if the pulp is not
damaged.
    Biting sensitivity calls for a careful evaluation of the bite.  The
cold sensitivity may be related to careless bonding technique; I'm not
so sure about the biting sensitivity--it's less typical.

Steve
Robert - 13 Jan 2008 20:00 GMT
>> Thank you for the thoughtful analysys. I will certainly discuss the
>> option
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> sensitivity may be related to careless bonding technique; I'm not so sure
> about the biting sensitivity--it's less typical.

Yeah, it is wierd. Even flossing on the left side of the tooth causes a bit
of discomfort. The tooth sort of feels "numb" in my  mouth but clearly it
has feeling.  I'm sure an endo would tell me to get RCT but I don't want to
do that on a hunch.  btw - the bite has been deemed to be good by two
different dentists.

Well, I already learned a couple of things of value from you about the
bonding and tubules.  Thanks again.
sherry - 14 Jan 2008 01:39 GMT
> I had a good number of ancient fillings replaced a few months ago. I was
> told that I should expect sensitivity for up to several weeks afterwards
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> irreversibly damaged the pulp? How long do I wait until I decide something
> has to be done? Will they stay like this forever? Thanks for any guidance.

robert, about 7 yrs ago i had a tooth root canaled and afterwards i
had some heat, cold and pressure sensitivity in the tooth BELOW it
which had been rc'd previously...endo testd both teeth w/ cold, and
deemed both dead...been using prevident close to daily ever since and
thought id be stuck w/ the senstivity, as over the yrs told other
dentists but none could get to the bottom of it...after reading ur
post i realized the sensitivity is GONE, THANKS!   i havent thought of
it probably in a matter of months, maybe even a yr!  i think it
subsided gradually...hopefully, worst case, urs will end up similar
but hope u dont have to wait 7 yrs  :)  sherry
Robert - 14 Jan 2008 02:56 GMT
On Jan 11, 4:26?pm, "Robert" <guyinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I had a good number of ancient fillings replaced a few months ago. I was
>> told that I should expect sensitivity for up to several weeks afterwards
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>> has to be done? Will they stay like this forever? Thanks for any
>> guidance.

> robert, about 7 yrs ago i had a tooth root canaled and afterwards i
> had some heat, cold and pressure sensitivity in the tooth BELOW it
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> subsided gradually...hopefully, worst case, urs will end up similar
> but hope u dont have to wait 7 yrs  :)  sherry

Thanks for the feedback, and I am glad to hear the sensitivity is gone. I'd
like to think I had something to do with it :-)

I haven't had root canal in the sensitive tooth, but I suspect I may
eventually have to. Are you saying that you had sensitvity in a tooth that
had already been canalled? (I thought root canal was supposed to deal with
that.)
krzysztof polanowski - 14 Jan 2008 15:30 GMT
many reasons.
gum , bite etc
If these semptoms are on the some level. Its rather nothing dengerous.
How ever It needed to be check very precisely.
I think Its a bite problem..

regards Kris-Polanowski DDS
>I had a good number of ancient fillings replaced a few months ago. I was
> told that I should expect sensitivity for up to several weeks afterwards
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> irreversibly damaged the pulp? How long do I wait until I decide something
> has to be done? Will they stay like this forever? Thanks for any guidance.
Robert - 14 Jan 2008 19:32 GMT
Thanks for the feedback. Two different dentists said the bite is fine. My
major concern is that the nerve was damaged beyond repair during the
restoration. I guess I'll find that out eventually if it was.

> many reasons.
> gum , bite etc
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>> has to be done? Will they stay like this forever? Thanks for any
>> guidance.
Dartos - 15 Jan 2008 19:12 GMT
I was
>>>told that I should expect sensitivity for up to several weeks afterwards
>>>(something about the caustic adhesives).

Very scary sentence.

Good technique with good bonding systems should result in little,
if any post-op sensitivity.

:-(
D
 
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