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$DO NOT GET DENTURES MADE UNTIL GUMS HEAL$$$$$

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blackielawless101@yahoo.com - 20 Dec 2007 06:31 GMT
I had my teeth pulled some time ago, I trusted the dentist knew what
he was doing and he was refered to me by my husband because he was
their family dentist here in the Balch Springs Area.
We'll just call him "Dr.L" for now.
My mouth was in pretty bad shape and I had to either pay $8,355.00 to
save what teeth I had or go with full dentures that were only
$2,365.00 for the whole procedure. I thought that this was a big chunk
but a huge savings for me and my husband since we did not have any
insurance and it was a private dentist, plus our income tax return
will pay for it all.
I paid $100.00 down and as much as I could until I had the bigger
chunk for the office and we could start working on my mouth.

Oh Yay!, I thought this will give me a great chance to finally smile
without feeling insecure about it.
Well....
The day came where he put the crap that swelled into my mouth and I
gagged when it was trying to go down my throat -
" The Impressions"
The key here is to breathe people!!!

Then he showed me my finished product a little later on, I was happy
with to see these white pearly teeth in his hand, he didn't put them
in my mouth on that day. I said fine, I'll take em.
My OLD TEETH WERE STILL lingering IN MY MOUTH when he did these
impressions!

Ok- The day of the big surgery arrives and I go in and we start by
giving my mouth 17 shots of pain killer and started the gas too.
I lay there in the chair and he starts to pull one after the other and
I am still not feeling anything other than the pressure of him pulling
my teeth. I did however wrap my arm around his waist for one of them
because it was my top "FANG FROM HELL" tooth and I knew this one was
going to make a difference. He gave me some stitches and told me to
come back in a couple of days to check the healing out.

He finished pulling all 21 teeth and My face was numb and then I
looked over at the surgical table and there they were. All of the
enemies that had been keeping me from smiling allot, bur harming my
health as well.
He came in and had my PRETTY TEETH in his hand and said "Your going to
feel some pressure,...!" He shoved them in and I was getting exited by
the minute and kinda afraid the next because I knew my face was going
to be swollen. I thought having one tooth pulled was bad! NOT!

The nurse wiped my mouth off and the dentist put a mirror in front of
me and all I could see was a woman with a swollen face but a  nice row
of straight teeth in my mouth! Beyond the itchy pain I started to feel
in the office chair I could hear my mother in the front office
screaming, "Don't put those teeth in her mouth until her gums heal!!"
The dentist shooed her out and told her to go get my medications he
prescribed and come back and I would be ready. I was so tired and
exausted not to mention I felt like Kermit the frog with teeth.

Within the next two hours I started to feel everything! my face was
itching and hurting everywhere. My kids came in from school and
freaked out when they seen my mouth so swollen. My daughter wanted me
to smile but I couldn't even move my lower face it hurt so bad.  I
smiled a grim smile but she said 'That's ok mommy I will draw you a
smile until you can use that new one there, pointing at my mouth."
1 month had passed and I had to get myself used to wearing those damn
things. I git my feelings hurt when my friend said I looked like
something off the "Planet of the Apes". He said my lower lip was
pooching out too much.
That's when my "MIRACLE SMILE" became a problem to me.
I kept looking for this "Pooch" he was talking about. There it was.
Then 3 months went by and my gums were healed and I applied the right
amount of stuff the doctor showed me to use on my teeth but it wasn't
enough. I had to ooze the sh.t on thick to make the top plate stay.
With out the ooze they would have fallen out.
The about 1 year passed and my teeth fit my gums like a size 11 shoe
on a size 6 foot!!! He told me to come back in for a alignment. I went
in and  he did his little thing and it still got worse. I have not
been back this guy, and I had spent what money we didn't really have
to spend.I am suposed to keep them in a jar of water but I keep them
in my cosmetic kaboodle because I have went without them for 3 years.
I called Dr.L back a  month ago and his secretary told me it would be
$500.00 for some procedure where they have to go and take all the pink
stuff off of my teeth and then do another set of impressions on my
mouth. I walk around everyday without those teeth in my mouth and I
talk and eat and everything else without them.
If you are a dentist and you read this, what should I do?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 20 Dec 2007 14:56 GMT
> I had my teeth pulled some time ago, I trusted the dentist knew what
> he was doing and he was refered to me by my husband because he was
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> talk and eat and everything else without them.
> If you are a dentist and you read this, what should I do?

    You are describing one of the commonest dilemmas in dentistry.  The
ideal is to impression gums that have already fully healed.  This
usually requires that the teeth be extracted, and healing allowed to
take place--and the longer the better.  Problem is that few people wish
to walk around without their front teeth.  So the compromise solution is
what you had done--a so-called "immediate denture".  Obviously it was
fabricated on a model that has been altered--the teeth broken off the
model, and the gum area shaved to an approximation of what their
anticipated shape will be after healing.  This allows the patient to
have their teeth extracted and walk out of the office with their
dentures in their mouth the same day.  As you experienced, this leads to
suboptimal fit and esthetics, and the fit gets worse with time as the
gums shrink away from the denture.
    In the old days when dentistry was cheaper this "immediate" denture was
intended only for temporary use.  After the gums have healed a whole new
set are made.  But now (at least in the patient population I serve) most
cannot afford a new set.  Insurance will not pay for a new set either,
until 5 years have passed.  So the alternative is relining the
dentures--usually after a period of 6 to 12 months.  You seem to be
describing a rebasing procedure, which is somewhat more expensive than a
reline.  This should give you a gum surface essentially the same as if
the dentures had been made after the gums have healed.  However, the
dentures tend to be a bit heavier and thicker, and you still don't have
the control of esthetics that you would have if a new denture were made.
    From the sound of things, there may have been a miscommunication  about
your options, but other than that this is normal dentistry, and
yes--often a very frustrating situation for both patients and dentists.

Steve

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
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Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Dartos - 20 Dec 2007 23:29 GMT
Guess I'm livin' in the past <G>.  My advice to dentists is to find the
cheapest way (well almost anyway) to make the immediate *temporary*
denture and include the new plates in the total fee (you have to be
different to be better).

For the rest, be careful what you ask for.  You just might get it.

No matter who makes a denture, it is still a denture.  It will not
function like natural teeth.

Going 3-6 months with no teeth is simply bad advice.

D

>     In the old days when dentistry was cheaper this "immediate" denture
> was intended only for temporary use.  After the gums have healed a whole
> new set are made.  
> Steve
Jeffrey Krantz - 26 Dec 2007 01:43 GMT
I do alot of immediate dentures and frankly your story is a familiar one to
me.
When faced with a case as you described there are two choices:
Full Mouth extractions, two months of healing, and fabrication of dentures.
or

immediates, :
Now when all the team are pulled out and the dentures made as immediate
dentures the patient MUST be told beforehand that  he/she is not to remove
them for 48 hours post extractions, there will be swelling and pain, and
when the gums finally heal  in a couple of weeks a LAB reline will be
necessary. There is no shortcutting this part of the procedure.
 
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