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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / December 2007Fuckin canker sores
I've got a 5mm diameter by 2mm high fuckin canker sore on the inside of my lower lip and my teeth keep rubbing against the fuckin thing. It's been there for about four days and just keeps getting bigger. Any advice on how to shrink the damn thing? > I've got a 5mm diameter by 2mm high fuckin canker sore on the inside of my > lower lip and my teeth keep rubbing against the fuckin thing. It's been > there for about four days and just keeps getting bigger. Any advice on how > to shrink the damn thing? They run their course. This is almost a size that we'd call a "major" aphthous ulcer. I've heard of these being treated with steroid ointments, but you don't want to overdo this. In the old days we'd use phenolics, or trichloroacetic acid to burn the surface and cover it with a slough of dead tissue. It felt better immediately, but it then takes longer to heal. Most conservatively, they make OTC preparations such as Orabase or Zilactin which cover and protect the ulcer to minimize irritation on the teeth. Steve Laser  Signature/ Amatus / >> I've got a 5mm diameter by 2mm high fuckin canker sore on the inside of >> my lower lip and my teeth keep rubbing against the fuckin thing. It's [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Steve > Laser How does this differ effectively from using an escharotic agent? Steve you need Dental Care checkout here http://www.americanvistas.com/productindex.htm On Dec 12, 8:48 am, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Laser > > How does this differ effectively from using an escharotic agent? > > Steve Changes the surface of the ulcerated epithelium and takes away the pain for the duration of the lesion. Signature/ Amatus / >> Laser > > How does this differ effectively from using an escharotic agent? > > Steve > Changes the surface of the ulcerated epithelium and takes away the pain for > the duration of the lesion. Well, so do the escharotics--by denaturing the proteins (IOW, chemical burn). The laser may do it in a more controlled way, so that the healing is faster--which is my objection to the escharotics--that healing is generally retarded. I believe this is one of the claims of the laser manufacturers--that it does not retard healing. I think I've even heard them claim that it accelerates healing--but I don't see how that can be. Certainly the patient feels better either way. Steve My experience has been immediate relief in pain but healing of the visual lesion still takes the same amount of time. I once had a patient burn the palate with hot soup (scooped up the oil floating on the top while tasting--during cooking). Burnt about a third of the hard palate. I treated with the diode laser every three days for about ten days on that one. Aphthous ulcers only need one treatment. Takes all of 5 minutes. Signature/ Amatus / >> Changes the surface of the ulcerated epithelium and takes away the pain >> for the duration of the lesion. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Steve > My experience has been immediate relief in pain but healing of the visual > lesion still takes the same amount of time. I once had a patient burn the > palate with hot soup (scooped up the oil floating on the top while > tasting--during cooking). Burnt about a third of the hard palate. I > treated with the diode laser every three days for about ten days on that > one. Aphthous ulcers only need one treatment. Takes all of 5 minutes. Sounds good. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >> My experience has been immediate relief in pain but healing of the visual >> lesion still takes the same amount of time. I once had a patient burn the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Steve Anyone know where I can get some Negatan ? Really, haven't been able to find it. > Anyone know where I can get some Negatan ? > > Really, haven't been able to find it. I had to google this. Sounds like polyrazzmatazz, but when I looked it up, it sounds like one of the old escharotics. According to this page, it is a discontinued medicament that they can custom compound for you: http://www.custom-pharmacy.com/New.html Steve http://www.americanvistas.com/productindex.htm On Dec 13, 8:30 am, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net> wrote: > New...@bix.nex wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Steve Thanks for your efforts for my patients' benefit. Much appreciated. >http://www.americanvistas.com/productindex.htm > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> >> Steve >> Anyone know where I can get some Negatan ? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Steve Polyphenolic sulfonic acid. Cauterized nerve endings in about 5 seconds. One treatment, no apparent delay in healing. Afterall an untreated apthous ulcer will heal in 7 days. A treated one will heal in one week. It's old school, tried but true. Patients appreciate the relief, though application burns a bit. Thanks for the link, sent them an e-mail today. >> Laser > > How does this differ effectively from using an escharotic agent? > >Steve The co$t of the laser is much more than a drop of the medicament. I would never suggest buying a laser just for this use. I only would suggest using it if you already have one. Signature/ Amatus / > >>> Laser [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > The co$t of the laser is much more than a drop of the medicament. >> I've got a 5mm diameter by 2mm high fuckin canker sore on the inside >> of my lower lip and my teeth keep rubbing against the fuckin thing. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Steve I put a big pinch of alum powder on it, let that sit for 15-30 seconds, rinsed it off, and then slathered it with Orajel. Alum to shrink it. Orajel to numb it. Seems to work, albeit quite modestly and very temporarily. F--- Ray Surprised anyone (including me) answered your F----letter about your F------ Canker sore. Hope your F--- canker sore is gone. Have a nice holiday with a F-------canker sore having healed. Gail |
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