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Interim treatment for tooth until insurance kicks in

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enroper@gmail.com - 09 Nov 2007 15:32 GMT
..Seems this week my teeth have decided to stage their revolt.

Last April I had a large filling in #19 replaced, with another large
amalgam. Since then it has been extremely temperature sensitive, to
both hot and cold, has been throbbing, and is progressively getting
worse.

Obviously something needs to be done, however, I exhausted my dental
insurance this year until Jan 1.

Aside from extraction, is there any low cost procedure a dentist could
do ( I am extremely limited in funds ) and then "finish" once the
insurance kicks in? Also would an insurance policy even cover a half
finished job? ( in case youre wondering I have united concordia )

Is a pulpectomy + temp filling without filling the roots a viable
( and inexpensive ) option? At this point, I'm seriously considering
saying screw it and yanking the tooth, unless somebody can suggest
otherwise.
Steven Bornfeld - 09 Nov 2007 19:44 GMT
> ..Seems this week my teeth have decided to stage their revolt.
>
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> saying screw it and yanking the tooth, unless somebody can suggest
> otherwise.

    It can be, but that depends upon the state of degeneration of the pulp.
 Pulpotomies are generally frowned upon as definitive treatment for
adult teeth--not only because they frequently don't work, but because
they can stimulate secondary dentin formation that can make definitive
root canal treatment more difficult when it finally is done.
    But if the alternative is only extraction, it might be worth doing--as
long as you're prepared for the possibility it won't hold up until next
year.

Steve
Newbie@bix.nex - 09 Nov 2007 22:46 GMT
I have read Bornfeld's response and while I generally
agree with his opinions this time I mus differ.

First off enroper said "pulpectomy" not pulpotomy.

Perfectly acceptable treatment to buy some time or
for a canal that cannot be dried.

Read intertwined responses below.

>..Seems this week my teeth have decided to stage their revolt.
>
>Last April I had a large filling in #19 replaced, with another large
>amalgam. Since then it has been extremely temperature sensitive, to
>both hot and cold, has been throbbing, and is progressively getting
>worse.

OK, sounds like irreversible pulpitis to me.

>Obviously something needs to be done, however, I exhausted my dental
>insurance this year until Jan 1.

If your ins. carrier will not change then if you have a pulpectomy,
then this will not become a 'pre-existing condition' after Jan 1.
However, to ins code this in a different way would probably be
better for your best monetary interest, as well as for the treating
dentist.

Use either 'open and medicate' or 'emergency endodontic procedure'.
Am not sure which is the current acceptable insurance terminology,
but the procedure is exactly the same.

Open the tooth, clean out the diseased pulpal tissue and medicate
with CaOH. It is important to have a good coronal seal if this must
last for more than a day. Personally prefer Fuji 9, IRM or Cavit
are no longer acceptable IMO since they leak like a sieve.

>Aside from extraction, is there any low cost procedure a dentist could
>do ( I am extremely limited in funds ) and then "finish" once the
>insurance kicks in? Also would an insurance policy even cover a half
>finished job? ( in case youre wondering I have united concordia )

Though you would have to ask my staff about explicit ins. questions,
much of the denials of coverage have to do with pre-existing
conditions.  See above statements.

>Is a pulpectomy + temp filling without filling the roots a viable
>( and inexpensive ) option? At this point, I'm seriously considering
>saying screw it and yanking the tooth, unless somebody can suggest
>otherwise.

There are alternatives to extraction even in cases of minimal
momentary monetary deficits. ;o]]

Recommend: Pulpectomy with cleaning and shaping of canals,
interim RC fill with CaOH, and coronal sealing with either Fuji 9,
or a well placed composite <flowable over orfices, with bonded
composite>. The coronal seal is extremely important, leakage
leads to re-infection and pain.

Don't have your tooth extracted. #19 is a key tooth in the arch.
Discuss your situation with your dentist.

Best wishes,

-NB
Steven Bornfeld - 10 Nov 2007 03:02 GMT
> I have read Bornfeld's response and while I generally
> agree with his opinions this time I mus differ.

    I agree that your plan is more clinically acceptable.  Mine was offered
only in the interest of minimalism.  No question pulpectomy and sealing
access will have greater chance of success.

Steve

> First off enroper said "pulpectomy" not pulpotomy.
>
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>
> -NB
Newbie@bix.nex - 10 Nov 2007 17:45 GMT
>> I have read Bornfeld's response and while I generally
>> agree with his opinions this time I mus differ.
>
>    I agree that your plan is more clinically acceptable.  Mine was offered
>only in the interest of minimalism.  No question pulpectomy and sealing
>access will have greater chance of success.

Knew that you would see it my way <hehe> 8^]]

Still, my recommendation *is* minimalist and wouldn't take a minute
longer.  As you stated, with an increased chance of success, it seems
apparent to me that a CaOH pulpotomy with a good coronal seal just
makes good sense.

>Steve
>>
>> First off enroper said "pulpectomy" not pulpotomy.
Vaughn Simon - 10 Nov 2007 02:53 GMT
Don't forget your Flexible Spending Account (if you are lucky enough to be
employed where one is offered)

Right now is the time of year when you normally sign up for your annual
election.  Be sure to put in enough money to handle your co-pay on the rtc and
crown, or even enough for the whole deal if it looks like your insurance is not
going to pay.  The Flex plan allows you to pay with pre-tax money, and makes the
whole amount of your election available on Jan 1, effectively giving you an
interest-free loan.

Vaughn
Newbie@bix.nex - 10 Nov 2007 17:31 GMT
>Don't forget your Flexible Spending Account (if you are lucky enough to be
>employed where one is offered)
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>
>Vaughn

Excellent advice.
 
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