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Reversible vs. irrerversible pulpitis

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Robert W - 28 Oct 2007 13:21 GMT
How does a dentist tell the difference between reversible and irreversible
pulpitis?  Is it a judgement call? Thanks.
Ghamph - 28 Oct 2007 18:25 GMT
> How does a dentist tell the difference between reversible and irreversible
> pulpitis?  Is it a judgement call? Thanks.

The dentist jams a scaling tool into the cavity very hard and notices the
patients response.
That's the way a military dentist did with me.
After a few of my words like, "I told you that the tooth hurt, you son of a
b---- mother f------", he extracted the molar.
Jamffer
Robert W - 28 Oct 2007 18:29 GMT
>> How does a dentist tell the difference between reversible and
>> irreversible
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> b---- mother f------", he extracted the molar.
> Jamffer

Ha! Ok, I'll suggest that to my dentist but I'll ask if I can try it on him
first :)

I don't get it - if pain is an indication of irreversible pulpitis, then
there is no such thing as reversible pulpitis, since sans pain, how would
you know you had pulpitis to begin with?

btw - what did you do in place of the extracted tooth: permanent bridge,
temp bridge, implant, nothing?
Ghamph - 30 Oct 2007 22:08 GMT
> >> How does a dentist tell the difference between reversible and
> >> irreversible
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> there is no such thing as reversible pulpitis, since sans pain, how would
> you know you had pulpitis to begin with?

I guess, that after he jams your cavity, you grab him by the smock and say
"if you do that again I'll jam that thing into your a.s".
I've had about ten to twelve cavities fixed without numbing.

> btw - what did you do in place of the extracted tooth: permanent bridge,
> temp bridge, implant, nothing?

Gum it, nothing (in the Army), they avoid expensive procedures.
Steven Bornfeld - 28 Oct 2007 18:48 GMT
> How does a dentist tell the difference between reversible and irreversible
> pulpitis?  Is it a judgement call? Thanks.

    The nomenclature is a bit confused, to be sure.  When we were in school
in medieval days, we were told that the pulp was incapable of recovering
from significant inflammatory changes.  The reaction to drilling that
was considered reversible was called "transient hyperemia" which is a
purely empirical description.  In a transient hyperemia which is most
frequently seen after treating a cavity, the primary symptom is
exaggerated response to hot and especially cold.  There may be pain,
even severe, but it vanishes within a few seconds.  If it's throbbing
for ten or fifteen minutes after this we infer that the nerve is in
trouble.
    But these designations aren't black and white, and I've seen situations
with symptoms somewhere between these two that eventually calm down.
Now, a certain percentage of these will later show that the nerve has in
fact degenerated, but some of these teeth remain assymptomatic (and we
assume have vital and healthy pulps) indefinitely.

Steve
Zzzdentist@dentalminds.com - 29 Oct 2007 08:21 GMT
On Oct 28, 11:48 am, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
>... but some of these teeth remain assymptomatic (and we
> assume have vital and healthy pulps) indefinitely.
>
> Steve

That's a new term I'll have to use, assymptomatic.

a.s'-ymp-to-mat'-ic (adjective):

1. The state in which there are no obvious signs of pain in the
buttocks region.  Sometimes used in reference to dental anatomy as
some upper molars do appear to have buttcracks along their lingual
surfaces.

- usage : "Dang, my butt was so sore from those hemorrhoids, but
thankfully after my surgery, it's now assymptomatic!" ;-)
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Here's a link which explains in some detail about pulpal inflammation
and tests involved in root canal therapy.

http://www.dentalminds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6

It doesn't take into account if the tooth has a root fracture, but
that might be something to be added in later.

Zzzdentist
www.dentalminds.com
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 29 Oct 2007 14:50 GMT
> On Oct 28, 11:48 am, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
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> 1. The state in which there are no obvious signs of pain in the
> buttocks region.

    Or, the sciatica is better (ouch, that wasn't fun!)

Steve

 Sometimes used in reference to dental anatomy as
> some upper molars do appear to have buttcracks along their lingual
> surfaces.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Zzzdentist
> www.dentalminds.com

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