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What do you know about waterlase technology?

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Guy - 18 Oct 2007 05:35 GMT
In the U.S. a few dentists are marketing a completely different type
of dentistry that goes under the name of waterlase (standing for the
combination of a water stream with a laser beam).

This method supposedly makes the existing teeth drilling combined with
painkilling shots obsolete.  Waterlase is painless.  Patients do not
need to be numbed with powerful anesthetic shots anymore.  The laser
is supposed to be far more precise and delicate than a drill.  As a
result, much more of the tooth enamel and overall structure is
preserved.  Also, the FDA supposedly approved of this technique nearly
9 years ago back in 1998.

As a dental patient considering major work on two deteriorating
fillings that will have to be replaced with crowns, I have a few
underlying questions:

1) How come this technique remains unknown even though it was approved
by the FDA long ago?
2) What are its drawbacks if any?
3) Can this technique truly substitute for standard drilling for the
type of work I am considering?
4) Is specific expertise key for a dentist to practice waterlase
successfully?
5) If it was your own mouth, would you consider going the waterlase
route or not?

Thanks in advance for any information on the above.
Amatus Cremona - 18 Oct 2007 12:07 GMT
> 1) How come this technique remains unknown even though it was approved
> by the FDA long ago?

Because it is not so *revolutionary* that it convinces enough dentists to
invest.

> 2) What are its drawbacks if any?

Cost and inabiliy to remove most old restorations

> 3) Can this technique truly substitute for standard drilling for the
> type of work I am considering?

If you are having small early decay in some teeth, it would be useful.  IF
you are having major work done, ,,,,, nah.

> 4) Is specific expertise key for a dentist to practice waterlase
> successfully?

You learn it quickly

> 5) If it was your own mouth, would you consider going the waterlase
> route or not?

For tiny eary decay, yes, for other stuff, no   However, I think Dartos has
a hard tissue laser and could comment better.  I only use a soft tissue
laser.
lilnigberry@gmail.com - 18 Oct 2007 13:13 GMT
> > 1) How come this technique remains unknown even though it was approved
> > by the FDA long ago?
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> a hard tissue laser and could comment better.  I only use a soft tissue
> laser.

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
George - 18 Oct 2007 18:49 GMT
> As a dental patient considering major work on two deteriorating
> fillings that will have to be replaced with crowns

Forget it. You need a traditional airotor drill and an injection for
this kind of work.

Regards,
George
ahuangdds2@gmail.com - 19 Oct 2007 17:28 GMT
> In the U.S. a few dentists are marketing a completely different type
> of dentistry that goes under the name of waterlase (standing for the
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>
> Thanks in advance for any information on the above.

Amatus give great detail info......Here is my take:

1) How come this technique remains unknown even though it was
approved
by the FDA long ago?
Waterlase claim painless dental procedure require no
syrindge.......The truth is some adult patient, you still need to give
local, great for pedo procedure, but limited on its useage. Poor ROI
for most dentist.

2) What are its drawbacks if any?
Slow.....Expensive, Limited application.....For me...The ROI is the
problem.

3) Can this technique truly substitute for standard drilling for the
type of work I am considering?
very limited use........Like Amatus stated

4) Is specific expertise key for a dentist to practice waterlase
successfully?
If you can buy it on e Bay...........not really

The only laser require real training before the rep selling you the
laser is Periolase..........Only Laser that is FDA approved to treat
Advance gum disease.

5) If it was your own mouth, would you consider going the waterlase
route or not?

Take too long, and technic sensitive........I still like Drill
better.........Have a composite placed with waterlase MD last year by
a good friend.....He have been using laser for 7 years, The composite
filling have to be replaced 8 month later. He did not remove all the
decay......It is hard to remove decay completely with a constant
stream of water.......Maybe it is the operator's error.
Steven Fawks - 20 Oct 2007 13:36 GMT
He did not remove all the
> decay......It is hard to remove decay completely with a constant
> stream of water.......Maybe it is the operator's error.

It isn't hard to remove old composite and decay, *unless* you're
working on an un-anesthetised patient.  <VBG>

IME, it is a nice machine.  However, it will not live up to the claims
of 'no anesthetic' needed for most patients and most procedures.

Advantages:

It will not cause or propagate cracks in the enamel.

There is much less bleeding of soft tissue on class IIIs and Vs.

My limited perio treatments do look encouraging.

Drawbacks:

Doesn't live up to 'needle-less dentistry' claim.

Cost.

Slow cutting for some procedures.

For me, I needed to increase magnification to use the laser.  You can't
feel anything, so visualizing every little blast for beam focus and
aiming are important.  I use 2.5 for most work, but jump up to 4.5
when I use the Waterlase.

JME,
Steve
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 20 Oct 2007 15:31 GMT
>  He did not remove all the
>> decay......It is hard to remove decay completely with a constant
>> stream of water.......Maybe it is the operator's error.
>
> It isn't hard to remove old composite and decay, *unless* you're
> working on an un-anesthetised patient.  <VBG>

    Considering that this is usually the biggest rationale I hear for using
the waterlase, I'm not sure this merits a <VBG>.
    Of course, anyone who remembers Caridex knows this ain't the first time
this claim has been made.

Steve

> IME, it is a nice machine.  However, it will not live up to the claims
> of 'no anesthetic' needed for most patients and most procedures.
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> JME,
> Steve

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