Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / September 2007
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oN - 14 Aug 2007 10:56 GMT This NG has changed face? Maybe we can make some list of old members? Joel was No1 (in No of posts ;)
All the best, Proka
Dartos - 14 Aug 2007 16:31 GMT Carabelli and I started in '94 or '95. Webby was here then too. So was Tim. Joel was not. Not sure when others filtered in.
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> This NG has changed face? > Maybe we can make some list of old members? > Joel was No1 (in No of posts ;) > > All the best, > Proka Newbie - 14 Aug 2007 16:39 GMT It's a good name for a band though.
>Carabelli and I started in '94 or '95. Webby was here then too. >So was Tim. Joel was not. Not sure when others filtered in. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> All the best, >> Proka Tim Dixon - 14 Aug 2007 17:21 GMT Still Here "D" all these years later :-)
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> Carabelli and I started in '94 or '95. Webby was here then too. > So was Tim. Joel was not. Not sure when others filtered in. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> All the best, >> Proka Dartos - 14 Aug 2007 19:22 GMT Glad you are, and it is such an interesting bit of fate that you ended up in the NTI business.
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> Still Here "D" all these years later :-) > > Tim
>>Carabelli and I started in '94 or '95. Webby was here then too. >>So was Tim. Joel was not. Not sure when others filtered in. >> >>D Tim Dixon - 15 Aug 2007 01:22 GMT Yeah who woulda thunk? It all goes back to about 94 meeting Jim the first time and been hanging out with him ever since. I'm in so deep now, i'll never get out ;-)
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> Glad you are, and it is such an interesting bit of fate that you > ended up in the NTI business. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>> >>>D The Webby - 14 Aug 2007 20:07 GMT Lurking a bit during my "summer vacation" and had to delurk for this thread. I got here in '94.. and it seems I'm still around too. ;-)
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> Still Here "D" all these years later :-) > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >> All the best, > >> Proka marika - 16 Aug 2007 03:41 GMT The Webby wrote in message ...
>Lurking a bit during my "summer vacation" and had to delurk for this >thread. I got here in '94.. and it seems I'm still around too. ;-) some nut i guess
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Amatus Cremona - 14 Aug 2007 19:19 GMT I would have guessed I popped in about 1996, but in checking copies of discussion with Dr. Roman Lohyn, I see those occurred in 1999.
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> Carabelli and I started in '94 or '95. Webby was here then too. > So was Tim. Joel was not. Not sure when others filtered in. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> All the best, >> Proka Vaughn Simon - 14 Aug 2007 22:28 GMT > Carabelli and I started in '94 or '95. Webby was here then too. > So was Tim. Joel was not. Not sure when others filtered in. I am still here. In a lot of ways, smd is a much better place now, but sometimes I kind of miss the old smd family.
Vaughn
The Webby - 15 Aug 2007 00:18 GMT > > Carabelli and I started in '94 or '95. Webby was here then too. > > So was Tim. Joel was not. Not sure when others filtered in. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Vaughn You know what they say about being careful what you wish for... ;-) I think you have something on your bookshelf that documents the old smd family in action fairly well ... ;-)
Webby
John & Ninetta - 15 Aug 2007 01:57 GMT I came aboard in 2000, when I finally got the internet at home (I'm sort of embarassed to say that). Guess I'm a "newbie".
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> Carabelli and I started in '94 or '95. Webby was here then too. > So was Tim. Joel was not. Not sure when others filtered in. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> All the best, >> Proka Newbie@bix.nex - 15 Aug 2007 03:35 GMT Hey ! I'm the true newb ;-)
Think it was 2002.
>I came aboard in 2000, when I finally got the internet at home (I'm sort of >embarassed to say that). Guess I'm a "newbie". [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>> All the best, >>> Proka news.chi.sbcglobal.net - 15 Aug 2007 06:46 GMT Don't know if I can be called a member, but I am a reader. Love the people and learned a lot. Have taken my hysterics on crohns disease and UC to Alt. Journalism, which rivals SMD in interest. Taking advantage of time left (if any) to get the impossible message of banning anti-depressants in nursing homes where a loved one is in dire condition. No one seems to know the difference between the natural progression of the illness admitted for and crohns symptoms which can kill prematurely. Gee, I better stop, I am already at odds with the administrator and physicians. Typical of the nursing homes are the soft drink machines which nobody needs but apparently provide revenue in a big way. It is more disastrous than if a dental school would have one.
Gail
nyscof - 15 Aug 2007 11:12 GMT Few of you are happy that I've been here probably since 1995; but now that I can communicate directly with journalists via the internet, no need to bother you guys who are so set in your fluoride ways. Most dentists retreated to private dentist listserv's where they couldn't be hounded with the truth
Did you hear over 600 physicians, dentists, scientists and environmentalists signed a statement calling for a ban on fluoridation and congressional hearings so that the CDC's oral health division will have to testify, under oath, that fluoridation is safe and effective at reducing tooth decay.
New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof
http://www.FluorideAction.Net
http://www.FluorideResearch.Org
News Releases http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu
Tooth Decay Crises in Fluoridated Areas http://www.fluoridenews.blogspot.com/
On Aug 15, 12:46 am, "news.chi.sbcglobal.net" <kureforcro...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Don't know if I can be called a member, but I am a reader. Love the people > and learned a lot. Have taken my hysterics on crohns disease and UC to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Gail carabelli - 15 Aug 2007 14:06 GMT Pretty sure it was '94. I still drop by every once in a while.
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> Carabelli and I started in '94 or '95. Webby was here then too. > So was Tim. Joel was not. Not sure when others filtered in. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> All the best, >> Proka Alexander Vasserman DDS - 15 Aug 2007 14:48 GMT > Pretty sure it was '94. I still drop by every once in a while. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >> All the best, > >> Proka was briefly here 94 95 then came back a few years ago.
Greggie Gibson - 18 Aug 2007 06:27 GMT Dartos <tuthjockey@myturbonet.com> wrote in news:1187105995_2084 @news.newsville.com:
>> Joel was No1 (in No of posts ;) >> >> All the best, >> Proka I've been away for awhile, what happened to joel. did he run off with jan?
The Webby - 15 Aug 2007 18:42 GMT > This NG has changed face? > Maybe we can make some list of old members? > Joel was No1 (in No of posts ;) > > All the best, > Proka Since 1993, it's been pretty much one big soap opera! Talk about *drama*! TV has nothing on us!!! ;-) We even had some art go missing once upon a time ...
In our cast of characters, I was often thought of as:
villain noun 1 a person guilty or capable of a crime or wickedness. € the person or thing responsible for specified trouble, harm, or damage
: the industrialized nations are the real environmental villains. € (in a play or novel) a character whose evil actions or motives are important to the plot.
In the long run, I believe that out of all the many discussions of smd, the ones that involved "the TMJ" ultimately led to new thinking... and I trust the new thinking has paved the way to much less suffering for many patients who fell into that care-package.
And I thank all the contributors for whatever content offered because it was and still is a matter that concerns all of humanity.
Sincerely, Webby
George - 16 Aug 2007 22:18 GMT I made a (very) brief pass in 1997 during my student years and came back in 2004. I'm probably the youngest professional in the group... but I'm getting older every day :(
Regards, George
Stormin Mormon - 20 Aug 2007 12:33 GMT I'm getting younger every day. Next year I have to surrender my drivers license. The year after that, I stop shaving. And the year after that I'll be going back to high school.
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: I made a (very) brief pass in 1997 during my student years and came : back in 2004. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : Regards, : George The Webby - 17 Aug 2007 17:15 GMT > This NG has changed face? > Maybe we can make some list of old members? > Joel was No1 (in No of posts ;) > > All the best, > Proka Ten years after the publication of a book that came from Usenet's sci.med.dentistry and alt.support.jaw-disorders ... it can't hurt to revisit a couple of pages,
From "The TMJ Iatroepidemic", published 1997 (ten years ago).
First, from page 11:
"Something miraculous happened in early 1994. I began to read more and more about the coming of the Information Superhighway. Of course, I had no idea what that even was, but it sounded fascinating. I had an immediate sense of encouragement that this new computer information resource would lead me where I needed to go. That was three years ago. Three years is not very long in real time. But in cyberspace, the clocks tick differently. Three years cybertime is like an eternity. Three years is like stepping back an entire century. Cybertime is our new time. The impact of the internet upon the development of medical knowledge proved to be our newest unknown. Cyberspace, the internet, Usenet... what does this technology have to do with the cause of iatroepidemics?"
Second, from page 31:
From: Webby & Chang RE: Leaving Cyberspace, 1997 To: The public Distribution: Worldwide
There wasn't any way to prepare ourselves back in 1994 for the impact of the journey we have just completed. It was with deep hope for the good of medicine, dentistry, and humanity that we ventured into the unknown of the internet. We went to observe, participate, and with the committment [sic] to ultimately emerge with something that would provide patients and professionals alike with a fresh look at the TMJ crisis. Whether or not the features of an iatroepidemic could be gleaned from the content of thousands upon thousands of subject lines discussed during the expedition was our final challenge. Even though we had taken responsibility for introducing most of the TMJ-related topics, we could not control the natural course of the newsgroup. Who would subscribe? Who would participate and with what attitudes was simply beyond our ability to predict. For nearly three years we took everything hour by hour and one day at a time."
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Only two people **know** the technical complexity that was the undertaking of the project to put together "that book". But a lot of people appreciate that smd "grew" as a result of "the TMJ wars" ... and as much as the medicine was bitter; the treatment was worth the agony.
Many of us have learned what it means to be "a family" (thanks, Vaughn, for the reminder) in a newsgroup. For those who don't yet appreciate what that means, all I can say is that you don't know what you're missing...
(Who are those guys anyway???) ;-)
Webby
oN - 27 Aug 2007 14:54 GMT ........
> Only two people **know** the technical complexity that was the > undertaking of the project to put together "that book". But a lot of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Webby I just have to say to you, I am sorry for past misunderstanding. OK? 10 years older, we are, too, maybe :))) And, happy new year....s...
-- All the best, Proka
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." Albert Einstein
tmjwebby@gmail.com - 01 Sep 2007 20:42 GMT > ........ > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." > Albert Einstein Hello Proka,
There is no need for another apology! That was resolved years ago! It was a sincere misunderstanding. Sometimes it's just *fun* to remember little bits of history such as this. :-)
And the best to you, Webby :-)
tmjwebby@gmail.com - 01 Sep 2007 20:43 GMT > ........ > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." > Albert Einstein Ah.... I forgot to thank you for the happy new year wish... ;-)
s... webby
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