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How good is "composite"?

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dontbsme - 10 Aug 2007 23:59 GMT
Back molar, broke small distal part of tooth. Amalgam filing comprises
about 80% of the tooth with the shell surrounding it. Dentist wanted to
put crown in (i know this is best), but I cannot afford the $1200. So I
told him to find some other way and he suggested this composite material
that SUPPOSEDLY binds to the tooth with some kind of UV light
activation. Had this 3X on a smaller front tooth. First lasted 2 years,
2nd lasted 3 years and 3rd has lasted now over 4 years (all from
different dentist). How good is this composite stuff and what factors
determine how long it will last?
dog - 11 Aug 2007 01:04 GMT
Try mexico? 1/10th the price and it appears that the number of horror
stories online from both country's dentists are about equal. At least
bauched repairs in Mexico will set you back by factor of ten, minus
traveling expenses.

To reduce the number of flights to two, do the cheap stuff locally ie
xrays, E-mail them with pictures of your teeth and $$$$ave. That's
what I'm doing. I've had one too many very costly horror stories here
in the U$A. $880 for a 20-minute deep cleaning! Dream on!
dontbsme - 11 Aug 2007 23:18 GMT
Yeah this is probably my next move. Except how to find a GOOD, English
speaking Mexican dentist and if he does f**k up royally, what recourse
do I have? None.

> Try mexico? 1/10th the price and it appears that the number of horror
> stories online from both country's dentists are about equal. At least
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> what I'm doing. I've had one too many very costly horror stories here
> in the U$A. $880 for a 20-minute deep cleaning! Dream on!
nox@bix.nex - 12 Aug 2007 03:34 GMT
>Except how to find a GOOD, English
>speaking Mexican dentist

No habla Ingles, puta.
dog - 15 Aug 2007 01:04 GMT
> Yeah this is probably my next move. Except how to find a GOOD, English
> speaking Mexican dentist

Many, many all along the US-MEX border.

>and if he does f**k up royally, what recourse
> do I have? None.

Where do you live Turkey? Come on! $184 Round Trip from San Jose to
San Diego, $25 cabbie, walk over the bridge and you're there. $25/
motel. This is impossible ??

If you need a pile of work done, even if you have to make a third trip
back for "corrective" purposes what's the deal? You'll save a loot.

And there's no bad dentists where you live? They're everywhere.
They're called humans.

GL, Steve
dacconverter - 30 Sep 2007 16:36 GMT
> To reduce the number of flights to two, do the cheap stuff locally ie
> xrays, E-mail them with pictures of your teeth and $$$$ave. That's
> what I'm doing. I've had one too many very costly horror stories here
> in the U$A. $880 for a 20-minute deep cleaning! Dream on!

Better yet, why not just get it extracted?

Like other man-made materials, the restoration will break or wear out
from use anyway. No need to even go to Mexico or Turkey. And you said
it's a molar, so the extraction will mostly be hidden from view.
Steven Bornfeld - 11 Aug 2007 02:10 GMT
> Back molar, broke small distal part of tooth. Amalgam filing comprises
> about 80% of the tooth with the shell surrounding it. Dentist wanted to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> different dentist). How good is this composite stuff and what factors
> determine how long it will last?

> If the tooth is in fact 80% gone, your chances for long-term success aren't good for either amalgam or composite resin, unless the cusps of the teeth are onlaid.  Some kind of laboratory or cerec- made restoration, whether metal, resin or ceramic has a greater chance of holding up.  If you are using resin or amalgam, keep in mind that you may buy some time, but you will likely be revisiting this problem.
>
> Steve
nox@bix.nex - 11 Aug 2007 14:53 GMT
>Back molar, broke small distal part of tooth. Amalgam filing comprises
>about 80% of the tooth with the shell surrounding it. Dentist wanted to
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>different dentist). How good is this composite stuff and what factors
>determine how long it will last?

So now you have had the same tooth operated at least four times.

If you had it crowned in the first place all of the additional
treatment would have likely been unnecessary.

Each treatment adds cumulative trauma to the pulp.
Most pulps can only survive 2-3 traumas before irreversible
pulpitis sets in. You have been lucky so far.

Predict that RCT is in this tooth's future.
dontbsme - 11 Aug 2007 23:13 GMT
Why do people not read posts before replying to them? Re read the OP.
The other composite was on a front tooth at a stress point, so it's not
the same tooth.

>>Back molar, broke small distal part of tooth. Amalgam filing comprises
>>about 80% of the tooth with the shell surrounding it. Dentist wanted to
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Predict that RCT is in this tooth's future.
nox@bix.nex - 12 Aug 2007 03:33 GMT
Why do you post stupid questions ?

No bs here mf.

>Why do people not read posts before replying to them?
grubertm@gmail.com - 13 Aug 2007 20:23 GMT
> Back molar, broke small distal part of tooth. Amalgam filing comprises
> about 80% of the tooth with the shell surrounding it. Dentist wanted to
> put crown in (i know this is best), but I cannot afford the $1200.

Seems rather pricey- maybe you can shop around and find a dentist who
does it for less ?
Newbie - 13 Aug 2007 20:55 GMT
>> Back molar, broke small distal part of tooth. Amalgam filing comprises
>> about 80% of the tooth with the shell surrounding it. Dentist wanted to
>> put crown in (i know this is best), but I cannot afford the $1200.
>
>Seems rather pricey- maybe you can shop around and find a dentist who
>does it for less ?

May include root canal therapy.

80% of the tooth is gone...
Dartos - 14 Aug 2007 14:09 GMT
Around KC in the 'fancy' burbs, $1K and up is pretty
routine.  'Course, out in the small towns, $800 is more
normal.  A 40-50 mile drive may net a considerable savings,
but the office building won't be as big and luxurious.

D

>>>Back molar, broke small distal part of tooth. Amalgam filing comprises
>>>about 80% of the tooth with the shell surrounding it. Dentist wanted to
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>
> 80% of the tooth is gone...
krzysztof polanowski - 28 Sep 2007 10:54 GMT
There is not answer The most expensive prosedure is the best..
Depends on situation the crown and bridges is the last issue.
If the decay is not too big and the occlusion is ok the composite could last
many years . Everything depends on individual examination

regards kris-polanowski
>> Back molar, broke small distal part of tooth. Amalgam filing comprises
>> about 80% of the tooth with the shell surrounding it. Dentist wanted to
>> put crown in (i know this is best), but I cannot afford the $1200.
>
> Seems rather pricey- maybe you can shop around and find a dentist who
> does it for less ?
dacconverter - 30 Sep 2007 16:27 GMT
First lasted 2 years,
> 2nd lasted 3 years and 3rd has lasted now over 4 years (all from
> different dentist). How good is this composite stuff and what factors
> determine how long it will last?

My clinical experiences with composite:

1) Microscopic shrinkage after a period of time, thereby affecting the
margins.

2) Bonding success correlates with ability to keep working view dry.
This is the biggie for me, since the patients here are very difficult
to work with, do not want rubber dams, and have caries in the worst
places ( almost subgingival on 15L, for instance ) to keep
sufficiently dry.

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