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Just discovered serious gaps/pockets between lower teeth and gums, advice?

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Reality Handbook - 27 Jun 2007 09:43 GMT
Hello sci.med.dentistry folks,

I haven't been to a dentist for many years...for a couple of
unfortunate reasons**.  But I'd previously never had problems with my
teeth of any sort--no cavities, and everything was always fine.  So I
was quite surprised after getting a new toothbrush this week to
suddenly become aware of rather large (several millimeter!) gaps/
pockets between my gum and tooth on my lower teeth.  I don't think
they could have spontaneously appeared, so they must have been forming
over a period of time.  Perhaps the new brush whisked out weak gum
tissue and other tooth gunk that had been filling in the holes?
Anyway, I rather suddenly can feel and see these gaps, and it isn't
good!

A little internet research has led me to conclude that this is a
complex problem to manage, and may have several steps involved if any
of this is infected.  And as for closing the gaps, it seems there are
poor solutions which are just expensive and mostly cosmetic in nature
(such as the "gum graft").  I don't have insurance, so I have to be
very careful and specific about how to address this problem.  I really
want to avoid landing in the office of a cosmetic dentist who isn't
focused on the most practical and cost-effective way to address the
primary health threat.  I understand the cosmetics are big to some
people, but not to me.

I am in the Hollywood/LosAngeles area, does anyone have opinion on a
good place someone in my situation can turn to?  Can an ordinary
dentist clean the teeth and gaps as they are, or does it require
visiting a specialist from the get-go?  Has anyone mapped out typical
expenses for procedures to address this kind of problem...what tests
they should do, and about how much is a fair fee for the labwork?

Any advice or referrals appreciated.  Thank you very much...

 --R

**Ok, so what's my excuse?  Well...the biggest reason is that I
haven't had any kind of health insurance for six years now.  Also, the
last time I went to a dentist I had a very unpleasant and generally
quackish experience, where he was trying to sell me on cosmetic tooth
treatments the moment I walked in the door.  When I expressed no
interest and asked to just have a simple cleaning with no X-ray, he
refused and kicked me out of the office.  The whole thing was high
pressure and very odd...and scared me off.  Is that standard practice,
to refuse to clean teeth if a patient does not want an X-Ray because
they'd had one 6 months prior (and even brings that X-ray from the
previous dentist?)
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 27 Jun 2007 15:07 GMT
> Hello sci.med.dentistry folks,
>
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> they'd had one 6 months prior (and even brings that X-ray from the
> previous dentist?)

    Find a good general dentist--ask for a strong referral from local
friends/relatives, esp. those with long experience.  Then go.  If you
need specialty care, the general dentist will take it from there.

Steve

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http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Reality Handbook - 10 Jul 2007 04:49 GMT
On Jun 27, 7:07 am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
<bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:

>         Find a good general dentist--ask for a strong referral from local
> friends/relatives, esp. those with long experience.  Then go.  If you
> need specialty care, the general dentist will take it from there.

Arrite, thanks...well that's what I did.  It took a while to find
someone who liked their dentist...I asked around and most people
seemed indifferent or displeased.  I was surprised considering that it
turned out that almost everyone I asked had some kind of significant
dental work done in their past...

My internet searches on "gap between gum and tooth" had led me down
the road of investigating gum disease (and getting really freaked
out).  But according to the dentist my gums and gumline are healthy,
and what's actually happened is that the enamel has eroded away from
those four front teeth.  I guess if you don't know it's hard to tell
whether the gum is too low or if the tooth is too high, but looking at
it now I can understand that what's missing is tooth not gum.

He told me that this area of enamel at the base is particularly
delicate and gets cracked and compromised, in my case almost certainly
due to the grinding I'm doing of my teeth when I sleep.  There's some
obvious patterns of wear and tear on the tops, but I am surprised to
hear that this would affect the bottom of my teeth in this extreme
fashion.  He says that nothing is decaying and that all my teeth--
these worn ones included--are structurally in great shape.

His suggestion is that after a thorough cleaning ($95) that porcelain
be used to replace the missing enamel ($180 per tooth, on each of K20
L21 S28 and T29).  He says the gums are a little irritated right now
but it's nothing serious and that after cleaning and closing the gaps
that problem should take care of itself.  To avoid this from happening
in the future, and stop other problems, he suggests having a
nightguard made ($500).

At this point I've paid for a full set of X-rays ($165) and exam
($56).  It did seem like a lot of X-rays, but as I hadn't been to a
dentist for 7 years I guess I'll just accept my two-days-at-the-beach
irradiation risk.  I'll have to have the porcelain bits done because
it seems like that's necessary to replace the enamel and protect the
inner part of the tooth.  But I don't know if I can do the
nightguard...

So there's the story thus far...

-R
Amatus Cremona - 10 Jul 2007 13:10 GMT
Fees are on target for most areas.

Just putting on porcelain or resin to fill the defects will only result in
the defects returning in 1-3 years (but further into the "gum" tissues).
You must wear some sort of appliance at night while you sleep to prevent any
flexing of the teeth.  We recommend an NTI device.  See:  www.nti-tss.com

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> On Jun 27, 7:07 am, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
> <bornfeldm...@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
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>
> -R
Dartos - 10 Jul 2007 13:48 GMT
  We recommend an NTI device.  See:  www.nti-tss.com

And when AC says "We", he is absolutely correct.

:-)
D
 
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