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Teeth put back to pre brace/retainer position

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Xander - 24 Apr 2007 09:36 GMT
Hi

I have had all my amalgam fillings removed by a bio-dentist in
Scotland.

He is now telling me that i should have my teeth put back to their pre
brace/retainer positions. Don't think that i am going to have buck
teeth again, though!

does anybody think that this is a worthwhle procedure?

Does anybody know the technical name for this procedure? (So I Google
it)

Are there any bio-dentist in the developing world who would be
qualified to undertake this procedure? ( I am currently travelling and
can live anywhere)

Thank you kindly
Amatus Cremona - 24 Apr 2007 12:46 GMT
Report the nut-case to the local licensing board.

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John & Ninetta - 25 Apr 2007 00:48 GMT
"Bio-dentist".....is that what they call themselves now....I haven't heard
that before.

John
Newbie - 25 Apr 2007 15:43 GMT
>"Bio-dentist".....is that what they call themselves now....I haven't heard
>that before.
>
>John

That would be as opposed to mechano-dentists and mineralo-dentists ?

Is the Bio-dentist a vegetable ?
orthodmd - 26 Apr 2007 02:45 GMT
> "Bio-dentist".....is that what they call themselves now....I haven't heard
> that before.
>
> John

if it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck, quaks like a duck, it
must be a quack.

Impossible to put teeth back into their pre brace position.  what a
lunatic
Xander - 28 Apr 2007 15:07 GMT
Do you lot know where the term quack originates?

I´ll tell you, shall I?

The german word for mercury is quacksalber.

People who used the substance went mad.
letsconnect - 26 Apr 2007 03:04 GMT
Report him to the General Dental Council: http://www.gdc-uk.org/
P.S.: care to share his name? just curious

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Amatus Cremona - 26 Apr 2007 12:29 GMT
Since we really don't know if the OP got the story right, and we don't know
if this OP is the one person out of 50,000 that would actually benefit from
this, I think the dentist's name should stay out of a public forum which is
not modulated.

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Newbie - 26 Apr 2007 15:04 GMT
>Since we really don't know if the OP got the story right, and we don't know
>if this OP is the one person out of 50,000 that would actually benefit from
>this, I think the dentist's name should stay out of a public forum which is
>not modulated.

It's not moderated either ;-D
Xander - 28 Apr 2007 15:08 GMT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quackery

More info on the origins of the term, quack

Ha
Bill - 25 Apr 2007 19:57 GMT
> Hi
>
> I have had all my amalgam fillings removed by a bio-dentist in
> Scotland.

Uh-oh. The replacement of fillings involves further removal of healthy
tooth structure, which weakens teeth. It should be done only when
there is new decay, excessive wear or fracture of the fillings, or
fracture of the teeth.

> He is now telling me that i should have my teeth put back to their pre
> brace/retainer positions. Don't think that i am going to have buck
> teeth again, though!

If that's what you had before, that's apparently what you'll have
again.

What is the purpose of erasing all the gains you have obtained through
proper orthodontic treatment? Oh, wait . . . don't tell me . . . it
has something to do with paying a lot of money to the person proposing
this treatment? Now I see . . .

You should have a consultation with a qualified orthodontist before
moving the teeth back again.

> does anybody think that this is a worthwhle procedure?

No.

> Does anybody know the technical name for this procedure? (So I Google
> it)

Check "Luddite" on Google.

> Are there any bio-dentist in the developing world who would be
> qualified to undertake this procedure? ( I am currently travelling and
> can live anywhere)

If he calls himself a "bio-dentist," run as fast as possible in the
opposite direction.

> Thank you kindly

You're welcome.
carabelli - 25 Apr 2007 20:46 GMT
"Bill" <dentaldoc@hotmail.com> wrote in message..........
> What is the purpose of erasing all the gains you have obtained through
> proper orthodontic treatment? Oh, wait . . . don't tell me . . . it
> has something to do with paying a lot of money to the person proposing
> this treatment? Now I see . . .
.

Well, I'm not certain but I think the are some *gurus* out there that flat
out say any extractions for orthodontic purposes are contraindicated. You
will destroy the maxillofacial complex by doing this.  The only remedy is to
reopen spaces and replace the teeth with prosthetics.

I suppose if a case was incorrectly diagnosed, treated incompetently and all
midface support is lost..........  well you would have to be a hack.  I've
seen the photo's trotted out showing this but there aren't any pretreatment
records for comparison.  There are people who present this appearance pre-
treatment but crowding is severe enough that treating without extra space
will move the teeth right out of the alveolus.

I would venture to say, with nothing to back it up, that a treatment plan
such as the OP reported is bogus 99.9% of the time, or more.

carabelli
Xander - 28 Apr 2007 15:01 GMT
Thank you for the only reply which was willing to at least consider
that modern orthodontics might have got something wrong.

I am curious.

Where would i find more info on the subject and what is the
terminology?

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