At what age should kids start orthodontic treatment. My child is 7.5
and has replaced 6 front teeth. The 4 lower ones are a little crowded
but in right position. And the 2 upper incisor looks big, a bit
protruding and has a big gap between them.
Should we start orthodontic treatment right now, or wait until all
teeth are replaced?
Thank you.
> At what age should kids start orthodontic treatment. My child is 7.5
> and has replaced 6 front teeth. The 4 lower ones are a little crowded
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> Thank you.
Sometimes having a child seen early can allow interceptive procedures
that can ultimately make treatment easier and more successful. I
suggest an early consultation; the orthodontist can always tell you what
is going on, and whether your child specifically needs anything done
now. If not, the child can be monitored for growth, tooth loss etc. so
that treatment can start at the optimal time.
My daughter is 10; she started treatment about 1 1/2 years ago.
Steve
yeh_linda@yahoo.com - 20 Apr 2007 07:02 GMT
On Apr 19, 5:51 pm, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net>
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> yeh_li...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> Steve
Did you treat your daughter? Can a general dentist or children dentist
do the job? Or we should visit an orthodontist?
Steven Bornfeld - 20 Apr 2007 14:47 GMT
> On Apr 19, 5:51 pm, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
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> Did you treat your daughter? Can a general dentist or children dentist
> do the job? Or we should visit an orthodontist?
I am NOT treating my daughter--she is being treated by an orthodontist.
Some general dentists may well be qualified to treat full orthodontic
cases in children--I will not.
Steve
Newbie - 20 Apr 2007 16:50 GMT
>> Did you treat your daughter? Can a general dentist or children dentist
>> do the job? Or we should visit an orthodontist?
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> I am NOT treating my daughter--she is being treated by an orthodontist.
What !?1 No Invisilign ? <G>
> Some general dentists may well be qualified to treat full orthodontic
>cases in children--I will not.
I hatae bending wires also.
>Steve
Steven Bornfeld - 20 Apr 2007 19:36 GMT
>>> Did you treat your daughter? Can a general dentist or children dentist
>>> do the job? Or we should visit an orthodontist?
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>> I am NOT treating my daughter--she is being treated by an orthodontist.
>
> What !?1 No Invisilign ? <G>
Heh, heh!
Steve
>> Some general dentists may well be qualified to treat full orthodontic
>> cases in children--I will not.
>
> I hatae bending wires also.
>
>> Steve
On Apr 19, 4:34 pm, yeh_li...@yahoo.com wrote:
> At what age should kids start orthodontic treatment. My child is 7.5
> and has replaced 6 front teeth. The 4 lower ones are a little crowded
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> Thank you.
Different orthodontists have different approaches to this. depends who
you go to.
early treatment is good since it makes phase 2 treatment much easiler
and you can take advantage of growth and do more orthopedic movement.
And this makes phase 2 treatment more stable.
downside to starting early is the child becomes frustrated with braces
and you will not finish what you started. They will give the parents
an attitude and will refuse phase 2 braces. The downside to waiting an
just starting when they are in their teens is you can not do
orthopedic movement some compromises have to be made, the teeth are
not as stable and the cost is usually much more. sometimes its better
to do simple movements as they grow and then phase 2 is much simpler
to deal with.
good luck with what you choose
I prefer to get them early.
carabelli - 23 Apr 2007 16:03 GMT
Here's a good link.
http://www.braces.org/beautifulsmile/children/index.cfm
While interceptive or first phase treatment certainly is indicated at times,
IMO it is overdone.
carabelli
orthodmd - 26 Apr 2007 02:51 GMT
> Here's a good link.
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> carabelli
as a general rule early tx (with some exceptions) is way over rated,
does not shorten tx time (just read the research) and does not
preidctably make second phase shorter. if you believe in evidenced
based dentistry, you can't justify early tx except for a limited
number of problems.
Amatus Cremona - 26 Apr 2007 12:44 GMT
How about thumb-suckers?

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> based dentistry, you can't justify early tx except for a limited
> number of problems.
carabelli - 26 Apr 2007 14:50 GMT
> How about thumb-suckers?
Unless there is an exceptional open bite and/or tongue thrust associated
with it, I usually prefer to wait until around first grade to give peer
pressure a chance to discourage it first.
Yup, looks like Charlie snuck in the back door.
carabelli
Amatus Cremona - 26 Apr 2007 16:29 GMT
I was thinking of the thumb sucker who pushes the palatal vault way up and
creates the narrow palatal arch. Don't you want early intervention to
expand the arch in these cases? i.e. palatal arch expansion around 7-10
years of age.
I thought you were watching that back door?

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carabelli - 27 Apr 2007 13:36 GMT
>I was thinking of the thumb sucker who pushes the palatal vault way up and
>creates the narrow palatal arch. Don't you want early intervention to
>expand the arch in these cases? i.e. palatal arch expansion around 7-10
>years of age.
As usual, it depends. Sometimes this presents itself but palatal expansion
may produce a buccal crossbite. Case by case.........
carabelli
Amatus Cremona - 27 Apr 2007 13:58 GMT
ok

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Alexander Vasserman DDS - 27 Apr 2007 20:49 GMT
> >creates the narrow palatal arch. Don't you want early intervention to
> >expand the arch in these cases? i.e. palatal arch expansion around 7-10
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> carabelli
you'd have to use a lower schwartz to prevent the crossbite.
Some people are saying evolutionwise our maxillas are getting smaller,
maybe we are not sucking our thumbs long enough.
I think there is more involved in the etiology of high vault palates
and narrow arches.
which came first the thumb sucking or the high vault narrow Gothic
arches? its like the chicken and the egg.
Newbie - 30 Apr 2007 17:15 GMT
>> >creates the narrow palatal arch. Don't you want early intervention to
>> >expand the arch in these cases? i.e. palatal arch expansion around 7-10
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>which came first the thumb sucking or the high vault narrow Gothic
>arches? its like the chicken and the egg.
The chicken came first.
"that fowl may fly" or something like that.
carabelli - 30 Apr 2007 19:03 GMT
"Alexander Vasserman DDS" <purple543210@yahoo.ca> wrote in
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> you'd have to use a lower schwartz to prevent the crossbite.
Unstable expansion
carabelli
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 01 May 2007 09:21 GMT
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What ortho is stable? you still need retainers for life.
If you follow Lawrence Andrews 6 Keys to good occlusion, you should be
fine. Of course you still need to determine if this is a skeletal
crossbite or dental and address that accordingly as well as the airway
problems.
carabelli - 01 May 2007 15:36 GMT
"Alexander Vasserman DDS" <purple543210@yahoo.ca> wrote ..........> What
ortho is stable? you still need retainers for life.
Certainly relapse is a potential problem after any orthodontic treatment is
completed. However, mandibular expansion is just begging for significant
relapse.
carabelli
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 02 May 2007 05:37 GMT
> "Alexander Vasserman DDS" <purple543...@yahoo.ca> wrote ..........> What
> ortho is stable? you still need retainers for life.
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> carabelli
What about a bonded retainer?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 26 Apr 2007 14:05 GMT
>> Here's a good link.
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> based dentistry, you can't justify early tx except for a limited
> number of problems.
Charlie?
Steve
yeh_linda@yahoo.com - 26 Apr 2007 22:00 GMT
On Apr 21, 10:45 pm, Alexander Vasserman DDS <purple543...@yahoo.ca>
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> On Apr 19, 4:34 pm, yeh_li...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> good luck with what you choose
> I prefer to get them early.
phase 2 means treatment starting after 13 years?