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On Mar 12, 5:54 pm, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
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> dmora...@cox.net wrote:
> > Are there any definite signs to looks for to determine possible enamel
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I know that I used to grind my teeth when I slept when I was younger,
but I don't think I still do. My girlfriend or parents don't say that
I do now, but I was just concerned because I do have some recession.
My dentist recommended a night guard (which he said would be ~$800)
and I can't afford this right now so I'm wondering if anything can be
done. I've been told if you grind once, you always grind, but I've
also been told that's not always true. I've also been told that if you
grind in your sleep, you usually have jaw pain in the morning, which I
don't.
Dave
grubertm@gmail.com - 13 Mar 2007 02:48 GMT
> I know that I used to grind my teeth when I slept when I was younger,
> but I don't think I still do. My girlfriend or parents don't say that
> I do now, but I was just concerned because I do have some recession.
My wife claims the same thing, but my dentist(s) beg to differ. In
other words: just watching you a few minutes at night won't determine
if you grind your teeth. I don't know if it's any good, but maybe this
device will help answering the question before you proceed with more
costly treatment : http://www.bitestrip.com/default.asp
> My dentist recommended a night guard (which he said would be ~$800)
> and I can't afford this right now so I'm wondering if anything can be
> done. I've been told if you grind once, you always grind, but I've
> also been told that's not always true. I've also been told that if you
> grind in your sleep, you usually have jaw pain in the morning, which I
> don't.
I'm not a dentist, but remember reading that grinding can occur &
disappear at various stages of life. $800 sounds too expensive to me.
The first night guard I had cost ca. $300 and lasted 5 years. It
reduced some of the jaw soreness (for me mostly later in the day, not
in the morning).
sci.med.dentistry has lots of NTI advocates (do a search to find out
what it's about) and this may or may not be a better alternative to a
night guard. It's more expensive than a soft mouthguard but has the
potential of minimizing any grinding as opposed to just covering the
teeth.
Dartos - 13 Mar 2007 19:14 GMT
> sci.med.dentistry has lots of NTI advocates (do a search to find out
> what it's about) and this may or may not be a better alternative to a
> night guard. It's more expensive than a soft mouthguard but has the
> potential of minimizing any grinding as opposed to just covering the
> teeth.
After using them for over 7 years, there isn't any "may" in my
preference of an NTI over a conventional guard (hard or soft)<G>.
Parafunctional activity encompasses clenching and grinding (bruxism).
Some people clench. Some people grind. Some do both.
There may be pain in the TMJs, but not always. Sometimes there are
sore/sensitive teeth. Sometimes headaches. Sometimes cracked teeth and
restorations. Sometimes there are abfractions, wear facets, worn
cusps, worn/chipped incisal edges.
It all depends on the duration and intensity of the clenching coupled
with the health of the muscles, nerves, bones, joints, tendons, and teeth.
JME
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Amatus Cremona - 13 Mar 2007 19:52 GMT
Ten years of NTI use, and I would never use a different appliance for these
types of problems. Only as a temporary diagnostic and reversible means to
open the vertical, would I use a horse-shoe.

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The Webby - 13 Mar 2007 22:39 GMT
Times flies doesn't it?
Webby
> Ten years of NTI use, and I would never use a different appliance for these
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Amatus Cremona - 13 Mar 2007 23:06 GMT
We were what? 24 years old then ??
:-)

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The Webby - 13 Mar 2007 23:21 GMT
Works for me!! ;-)
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Amatus Cremona - 13 Mar 2007 23:47 GMT
8-))

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grubertm@gmail.com - 13 Mar 2007 23:02 GMT
> After using them for over 7 years, there isn't any "may" in my
> preference of an NTI over a conventional guard (hard or soft)<G>.
I remember reading a Norwegian study on the NTI site claiming that
there were no statistical differences in treatment results between NTI
& horseshoe.. just saying.
Steven Fawks - 13 Mar 2007 23:51 GMT
Just trying to get them through the FDA at that time.
Proving they were 'at least as good' as a standard treatment
for the same conditions was much less costly than trying to
prove superiority.
:-)
Steve
>>After using them for over 7 years, there isn't any "may" in my
>>preference of an NTI over a conventional guard (hard or soft)<G>.
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> I remember reading a Norwegian study on the NTI site claiming that
> there were no statistical differences in treatment results between NTI
> & horseshoe.. just saying.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 13 Mar 2007 15:42 GMT
> On Mar 12, 5:54 pm, Mark & Steven Bornfeld
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> Dave
It is difficult to tell if any wear is from current parafunction or
from grinding in the past, esp. in the absence of symptoms. I wouldn't
necessarily assume that because you don't have jaw pain that you do not
grind your teeth (this is much more likely to occur in women)--I've seen
severe damage done to teeth with total absence of other symptoms.
If the wear is modest (everyone's teeth wear some with age--it's a
matter of degree), you might consider having your mouth observed.
Sometimes study models or photos are helpful in assessing whether
additional wear is taking place, and at what pace.
Steve

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