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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / March 2007Prompt L Pop
Anyone using these ? Got a sample and tried it yesterday, 15 second application, seemed to work well. I use them for anterior teeth and for pediatric posterior teeth. I have never had a bonding failure from it yet. Used them for about ten years. For adult posterior teeth, I prefer the extra step of etching and rinsing--so as to make sure the prep is really cleaned.  Signature/ Amatus / > > Anyone using these ? > > Got a sample and tried it yesterday, > 15 second application, seemed to work well. >I use them for anterior teeth and for pediatric posterior teeth. I have >never had a bonding failure from it yet. Used them for about ten years. >For adult posterior teeth, I prefer the extra step of etching and >rinsing--so as to make sure the prep is really cleaned. So as long as there is a clean dry field, no problemo eh ? Any post-op sensitivity ? Have been using the Clear Fill Self Etch with good results. No post-op sensitivity to speak of. One of the wise men in SMD told me about this material. <vbseg> Never had a complaint of sensitivity after using it. The issue with the Prompt-L-Pop is that your DA needs to be paying attention to how she moves the reagents from one reservoir to the other for mixing. If she is a tad lazy that day, you only get one chemical on your brush. If that happens, the liquid will be clear and you know to re-mix. It has an amber color when mixed. Signature/ Amatus / > >>I use them for anterior teeth and for pediatric posterior teeth. I have [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > One of the wise men in SMD told me about this material. <vbseg> You forgot 'old'. ;-( D > One of the wise men in SMD told me about this material. <vbseg> At least he did not say "bald". Signature/ Amatus / > > You forgot 'old'. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> One of the wise men in SMD told me about this material. <vbseg> I've still got hair, though mostly gray. :-) D > At least he did not say "bald". > I've still got hair, though mostly gray. > > :-) > D > >> At least he did not say "bald". The only photo I remember seeing of you (wearing the mask and Designs for Vision telescopes) I seem to remember you being a redhead. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 And I practice in Monatana. ;-) D >> I've still got hair, though mostly gray. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Steve Lucky :-( Signature/ Amatus / > > I've still got hair, though mostly gray. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >> At least he did not say "bald". Cannot refer to you as 'old' without also referring to myself. ;-]] >You forgot 'old'. > >;-( >D > >> One of the wise men in SMD told me about this material. <vbseg> > I use them for anterior teeth and for pediatric posterior teeth. I have > never had a bonding failure from it yet. Used them for about ten years. > For adult posterior teeth, I prefer the extra step of etching and > rinsing--so as to make sure the prep is really cleaned. I think my daughter's orthodontist uses something like this for bonding brackets--I guess the rationale is that etchant doesn't affect bond strenghts? I must say that debonded brackets occur frequently in her mouth. Steve SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 Prompt-L-Pop and other self-etching BA do bond as well to "un-cut" enamel. You need to roughen fresh enamel with a VF diamond. Signature/ Amatus / > >> I use them for anterior teeth and for pediatric posterior teeth. I have [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Steve Prompt-L-Pop and other self-etching BA do NOT bond as well to "un-cut" enamel. You need to roughen fresh enamel with a VF diamond. Signature. Amatus . > Prompt-L-Pop and other self-etching BA do bond as well to "un-cut" enamel. > You need to roughen fresh enamel with a VF diamond. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> Steve one of the best is SIMPLICITY the info is on www.apexdentalmaterials.com Its clear that 4 generation bonding systems have the biggest strange of adhesion. Presently Surpass has even bigger than Optibond FL The use of 5/6 generation is less hipersensitivity and time. Of course among 4th generation are very unique bonding systems with antibacterial acting etc kris-Polanowski DDS > Anyone using these ? > > Got a sample and tried it yesterday, > 15 second application, seemed to work well. Thanks Krzysztof. What 5/6 generation systems have you used ? >one of the best is SIMPLICITY >the info is on www.apexdentalmaterials.com [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> Got a sample and tried it yesterday, >> 15 second application, seemed to work well. I checked many of them 5 years ago I used even prompt L-pop, next Clearfill Se Bond presently Simplicity I am sure if Its going of quality Its better to use 4th generation bonding systems or special like Simplicity or Clearfill The single bottles have averagly 50% less adhesion . I cant tell witch one is the best among 6th generation becouse I avoid to use It :)) Its better to check CRA reports regards kris-Polanowski > Thanks Krzysztof. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>> Got a sample and tried it yesterday, >>> 15 second application, seemed to work well. |
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