Thank you very much for your reply Dr.Bornfield.
I am going to a very reputed endodontist (who is charging me a
looooot!) to get the left side looked at...I am going to take it one
side at a time because I am having a lot of refeered pain in the upper
teeth as well -some of which have fillings - so its turning into one
big mystery - so the endodontist said that toothache cannot cross the
midline...so once I have the lower left fixed - the upper left teeth
shouls not hurt..and the whole side should be pain free. Is that right?
My mom feels that I am sensitive and am just thinking too much about it
and the pain is not quitting because of that. Can that be a possibility
? Is that why root canals are not working for me? However, last month
the pain quit completely for a week (on both sides) when I took an
antibiotic for a severe cold. I have already taken antibiotics three
times last year...I have heard that its not good to take them
frequently (though they always get rid of my toothache)...any other
advise you may have for me ? I would love to keep all my teeth..why
can't the dentists seem to help me?
One more question - I drink 2 cups of tea with Equal every day...does
tea irritate my teeth and prevent them from healing..I sometimes feel
it does..though I may be imagining it as my mom says..:)
> > hi,
> > I went to a dentist after a long time and they found i needed two root
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> Good luck,
> Steve
Jan Drew - 16 Jan 2007 02:59 GMT
> Thank you very much for your reply Dr.Bornfield.
> I am going to a very reputed endodontist (who is charging me a
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> tea irritate my teeth and prevent them from healing..I sometimes feel
> it does..though I may be imagining it as my mom says..:)
http://www.integratedhealthpractice.com/treatment.asp#Root
ll root cancel fillings have the potential to casue bad health. This is
because, althought the nerve has been removed, bacteria still colonise in
the minute tubules of a tooth. These bacteria produce toxins which enter the
body causing potential harm.
An area of residual infection which is left under the gum, usually
following, but sometimes a long time after an extraction can cause problems.
Symptoms can be coincided with the energetic links to the body as well as
localised problems.
http://www.altcorp.com/AffinityLaboratory/rcttreatment.htm
http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/RCTframeset.htm
http://www.ericdavisdental.com/root_canals.htm
http://www.drshankland.com/rootcanal.html
http://webpages.charter.net/kyarbrough/rootcanals.htm
http://www.dentistry-toothtruth.com/faq.htm
http://www.cfsn.com/maz/
http://rheumatic.org/teeth.htm
http://www.zip.com.au/~rgammal/root_therapies.htm
http://zap.intergate.ca/root.html
http://www.dentistryholistic.com/education.html
http://www.karlloren.com/ultrasound/p25.htm
http://www.bikerchick.freehomepage.com/custom2.html
http://www.wholebodymed.com/library_education_details.php?pid=42
http://www.hallvtox.dircon.co.uk/hallvt.html
Root Canals. A tooth has miles of tiny canals running through the root. A
dead
or root filled tooth will have bacteria in these canals. There is no way of
removing the bacteria once they are in there.
http://www.toothwisdom.net/
Toxicity from Root Canals
The next subject to be discussed are root canals and their possible source
of
toxicity. Approximately twenty five million Americans undergo root canal
therapy every year in an effort to prevent the loss of teeth that have
abscessed. The root canal is the left portion of the tooth which houses the
vital organs such as the nerve and blood vessels. The dentist endeavors to
clean and sterilize this canal and fill it with a sterile, non toxic inert
material. This usually renders this tooth serviceable and non painful;
however,
the entire inner hard core of the tooth is made of dentin which has several
million dentinal tubules. These tubules allow the circulation of lymphatic
type
fluid to circulate from the vital organs of the root canal to the outside of
the tooth. This is a viable circulatory phenomenon which has a purpose. It
services the periodontal ligament as well as the sensory aspect of the nerve
and blood centers in the root canal. If the body chemistry is healthy, the
flow
of lymphatic fluid is from the root canal to the outside of the tooth. This
creates an irrigation for the tooth and usually prevents the accumulation of
plaque to form. When the body chemistry is not healthy, then the circulation
is
from the outside of the tooth to the inner root canal. This allows for no
irrigation, but rather an accumulation of plaque to form. There are many
more
reasons for maintaining the integrity of the circulation in the dentinal
tubules. Root canal therapy completely destroys this integrity, and what
happens to the non-circulating fluid in these tubules? This fluid as it ages
becomes stagnant and becomes a toxic substance. This porous structure now
becomes a septic mass emanating poisons into the body. Is this what you
want?
Mercury amalgams are said to be the caskets of the body. Root canals are
said
to be the cadavers of the body.
I do not recommend root canals for anyone. Each individual has a right to
their
decisions. Many people simply do not wish to lose a member of their body. I
respect this, and I always discuss the consequences.
The next area of discussion is whether the root canal filling actually
sterilizes the apical end of the tooth. There are so many lateral canals at
the
root end of the tooth where bacteria can harbor that it is unlikely that a
complete aseptic condition exists. This, however, is a debateable subject.
Again, the complete acceptance of root canal therapy as a viable
substitution
for extraction is completely and whole heartedly supported by organized
dentistry. You are in violation of the code of ethics if you speak out
against
root canal therapy. When I was a practicing dentist, I always let the
patient
make that decision after explaining all pros and cons.
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>(San Francisco, CA) - For the first time anywhere, dentists will be
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Jan
>> > hi,
>> > I went to a dentist after a long time and they found i needed two root
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>> Good luck,
>> Steve
Steven Bornfeld - 16 Jan 2007 03:32 GMT
> Thank you very much for your reply Dr.Bornfield.
> I am going to a very reputed endodontist (who is charging me a
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> midline...so once I have the lower left fixed - the upper left teeth
> shouls not hurt..and the whole side should be pain free. Is that right?
I cannot say that. There are a variety of things that can cause facial
pain. But if you're going to a good endodontist, there is an excellent
chance he/she will know what the source of the pain is, and treat or
refer you appropriately.
> My mom feels that I am sensitive and am just thinking too much about it
> and the pain is not quitting because of that. Can that be a possibility
Based on my lengthy experience (over 30 years now) I think that the
chances that this pain is due to some kind of faulty thinking is just
about zero. Much as I avoid saying not to listen to your mom--just this
once don't listen to your mom.
> ? Is that why root canals are not working for me? However, last month
> the pain quit completely for a week (on both sides) when I took an
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> advise you may have for me ? I would love to keep all my teeth..why
> can't the dentists seem to help me?
Another thing that your endodontist will surely consider is whether you
may have a sinus infection that may be contributing to your pain. Make
sure the endodontist knows this part of your history--that you had a
severe cold, were given antibiotics, and the pain disappeared. Make
sure you note the antibiotics given, and anything else in your history
that may give clues to the cause of the pain.
> One more question - I drink 2 cups of tea with Equal every day...does
> tea irritate my teeth and prevent them from healing..I sometimes feel
> it does..though I may be imagining it as my mom says..:)
No--tea is good. Don't listen...darn, there I go again!!
Steve
vibharathi@gmail.com - 16 Jan 2007 20:09 GMT
Thanks!
Can you explain the last line ?
No--tea is good. - Is it " no tea is good" or "no, tea is good"?
Slightly confused....tea seems to make my teeth yellow...I sometimes
feel it seeps thorugh my fillings...I am just being paranoid right? I
love tea...and it would be hard to give up - but given my dental state
- I am prepared to give it up if it helps..
> > Thank you very much for your reply Dr.Bornfield.
> > I am going to a very reputed endodontist (who is charging me a
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>
> Steve
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 16 Jan 2007 20:44 GMT
> Thanks!
> Can you explain the last line ?
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> love tea...and it would be hard to give up - but given my dental state
> - I am prepared to give it up if it helps..
Sorry--I was just being silly. Tea will stain your teeth of course,
but that's what toothbrush and cleanings are for. Tea is fine. Just
don't do what my grandfather did back in Poland--drink it through a
sugar cube clenched in his front teeth.
Good luck,
Steve

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vibharathi@gmail.com - 17 Jan 2007 01:22 GMT
Sorry to harp on this....but do you think tea with milk and equal might
have caused my cavities in the first place? Because other than tea I
really don't have a sweet tooth...also..with root canals and crowns
an dfillings now in my mouth...do you think it will seep through and
irritate my teeth? Somehow I want to make sure I'm not harming my teeth
in anyway..I do brush and floss regularly.
> > Thanks!
> > Can you explain the last line ?
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> Brooklyn, NY
> 718-258-5001
Steven Bornfeld - 17 Jan 2007 03:25 GMT
> Sorry to harp on this....but do you think tea with milk and equal might
> have caused my cavities in the first place? Because other than tea I
> really don't have a sweet tooth...also..with root canals and crowns
> an dfillings now in my mouth...do you think it will seep through and
> irritate my teeth? Somehow I want to make sure I'm not harming my teeth
> in anyway..I do brush and floss regularly.
Milk of course has sugar in it. But esp. diluted with tea, there isn't
enough substantivity (ie: it isn't present in the mouth long enough, in
high enough concentration) to be a significant caries risk.
Obviously your diet at least at some point was capable of supporting
decay. You have to look at the whole ball of wax. But I wouldn't worry
about the tea.
Steve
Dartos - 17 Jan 2007 15:50 GMT
(ie: it isn't present in the mouth long
> enough, in high enough concentration) to be a significant caries risk.
Unless it's sip, sip, sip, sip, sip, sip, all day long.....(and
maybe a nibble, nibble to go along with it)
D
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 17 Jan 2007 16:32 GMT
> (ie: it isn't present in the mouth long
>
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>
> D
Esp. the nibble.
Steve

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Dartos - 17 Jan 2007 15:36 GMT
Not that this applies to your case, because non of us has seen
the tooth or work that has been done on it.
However, there is a fair amount of 'crappy endo' out there.
Some of it is because dental schools have not always taught the
best techniques. Some of it is because dentists have not updated
the techniques they were taught 15-20 years ago. Some of it is
due to ineffective "shortcuts" to speed up or simplify the procedure
which might not lead to the best quality of treatment.
On upper molars there is usually a 4th canal that is very small
and is not easy to locate. The lower molars often have two
canals in the distal root. Failing to find, clean,
and fill *all* of the canal system usually leads to failure.
I spent 15 minutes on a case yesterday just finding an MB-2 canal
(I had to use a file size of #6 and #8 to get to the apex).
Without spending the time to find and clean this one tiny canal,
I could easily have finished the other three, charged $750, and
said that it was done.
Another aspect to be considered is that a root canal is a last
ditch effort to retain a tooth that already has sustained
*severe damage*. It isn't likely to last 30 years (though it
*may*). Without a root canal, the tooth would be extracted.
If the root canal is unsuccessful, the tooth will be extracted.
All you are going to lose is a few dollars. With a high
percentage of years of success, it's usually worth the risk.
If a dentist is not having a high degree of success, he needs
to get better or refer the tough cases.
JMO,
D
> Thank you very much for your reply Dr.Bornfield.
> I am going to a very reputed endodontist (who is charging me a
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> midline...so once I have the lower left fixed - the upper left teeth
> shouls not hurt..and the whole side should be pain free.
If the dentist is simply suggesting more root canals, at this point
>>it's time for a second opinion, and strongly recommend you find a good
>>root canal specialist (endodontist). Two molar root canals, two painful
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>>Good luck,
>>Steve