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Jan Drew - 19 Dec 2006 21:36 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/7a1882c5e85391aa

Peter Bowditch" <myfirstn...@ratbags.com> wrote in message

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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/fd1ae959144a49a5

Jan did a bit of snipping to change the meaning without mentioning it.

Now I will expose that LIE.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/7a1882c5e85391aa

Peter Bowditch" <myfirstn...@ratbags.com> wrote in message

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I snipped not a word.

I will repeat what I said:

Hulda Clark says it. Anyone who does not believe that she is a lying
sack of sh.t agrees with her.

No, Hulda did not say that.

Now show your proof!!!!

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/1707a70c6eeda675

Hulda Clark says it. Anyone who does not believe that she is a lying
sack of sh.t agrees with her.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/86de578b221d2ff9

I

> have been challenged to name a single alternative practitioner who has
> killed 87 people. The facts are that real medicine has methods to deal
> with disasters like this, but alternative medicine hasn't even any
> useful system of adverse event reporting. There is a government
> enquiry under way, the recruitment and reporting problems are being
> identified and corrected, Dr Patel will be charged with criminal
> offences (manslaughter at least, possibly even murder), his
> extradition to Australia will be sought as soon as he is located, and
> he is looking forward to a long time behind bars. This was not a case
> of medical fraud, but one of a failure of management. It is a tragedy
> and a disgrace, but something is being done to stop it happening
> again.

> One delightful irony of this whole matter is that Dr Patel apparently
> said that it was not necessary to wash hands between patients because
> germs mean nothing. It is rather bizarre to see people holding these
> comments up as examples of the incorrect thinking of real doctors when
> those same people accept chiropractic, naturopathy, energy medicine,
> acupuncture, homeopathy and other magical medical paradigms in which
> pathogenic organisms play no part. But then, hypocrisy is never short
> on the ground when quacks start criticising medicine.

Well, there are THREE lies is what yu quoted here.

Now let's move on.

Do let the people of Australia, know of Dr Wilson, and how he committed
FRAUD COVER UPS, and REMAINS ON STAFF. THAT IS THE FAULT OF ORGANIZED
MEDICINE.

Now, reading more on you sick filled page, FILLED with
lies,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Many supporters of alternative medicine behave as if alt-med is a religion,

That's a LIE.

and they make constant statements of faith. If any challenge is made to
their holy scriptures they either ignore what is said or pretend that by
saying something twice it will become fact.

That's a LIE!

Two examples of this happened to me in just one day this week. The first
was someone who demanded evidence that anyone said or believed that liver
flukes cause cancer.

That's a BLATANT LIE!!!

I did NOT demand. I did NOT say.

You Made that up. It is a claim you have NOT backed up. YOU lied!

I ASKED!

Just who believes that all cancers are caused by a liver fluke.?

You failed to mentioned (BECASUE YOU ARE A DECEIVER) my question was in
response to the below:

>I should give the context here; I am actually posting to a newsgroup
> where there are posters who believe that not drinking milk will cure
> strep throat, and others that believe all cancers are caused by a liver
> fluke...

That says (where there are posters who believe)

The person doing the demanding is a strong supporter of cancer quack Hulda
Clark,

There was NO demanding. I am NOT a strong supporter Of Hulda Clark, with
the exception of her personal character.

Peter Bowditch is a DECEIVER, A LIAR. AND A DESPICABLE PERSON.

He has LIES all over his website.

He even had the audacity to I had changed my words for who believes to *who
says*, that's because he is OBSESSED to post what Hulda says, and the posted
was referring to what the posters HERE believed.

He LIES to suit his purpose. When caught in his lies, he uses profanity.

Reading on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Even then, they couldn't stop lying

P A T H E T I C!

Jan

http://www.gebesse.com.au/aboutus.htm

Gebesse is a computer consulting company specialising in providing services
to small and medium-sized businesses. Our mission is to apply the highest
quality products and services towards solving our clients' business
problems, so that our clients can do what they set out in business to do -
which is not usually to become computer experts. The company has been
operating since October 1987.

The company is owned and managed by Peter Bowditch, who has had over 35
years working with computers and their applications to business.

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Peter Bowditch - 20 Dec 2006 10:35 GMT

>http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/7a1882c5e85391aa
>
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>
>Now I will expose that LIE.

KACHING!! $1

I'm not bothering to read much further, but I suspect that Jan is
accusing me of lying for calling Hulda Clark a lying sack of sh.t. Or
maybe I was lying when I accused Jan of selective and confusing
snipping and quoting. Looking at the URL, maybe I was lying for saying
that Jan posts to diabetic newsgroups when any fool can see that the
above message was in misc.health.diabetes. And it was posted 5 months
before I had a reason to go there (other than by responding to
crossposting).

>http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/7a1882c5e85391aa
>
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>
>Well, there are THREE lies is what yu quoted here.

List them.

>Now let's move on.
>
>Do let the people of Australia, know of Dr Wilson, and how he committed
>FRAUD COVER UPS, and REMAINS ON STAFF. THAT IS THE FAULT OF ORGANIZED
>MEDICINE.

KACHING!! $5

>Now, reading more on you sick filled page, FILLED with
>lies,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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>
>He has LIES all over his website.

List them.

>He even had the audacity to I had changed my words for who believes to *who
>says*, that's because he is OBSESSED to post what Hulda says, and the posted
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Jan

>Gebesse is a computer consulting company specialising in providing services
>to small and medium-sized businesses. Our mission is to apply the highest
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>The company is owned and managed by Peter Bowditch, who has had over 35
>years working with computers and their applications to business.

Damn fine company, that.

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Jan Drew - 21 Dec 2006 10:55 GMT

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/ab364564d3008efb

Groups: alt.support.breast-implant, alt.support.attn-deficit,
sci.med.dentistry

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/7a1882c5e85391aa

Peter Bowditch" <myfirstn...@ratbags.com> wrote in message

news:ddumb1t2lu44goh81vgtfn5op0467u3u7c@4ax.com...

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/fd1ae959144a49a5

Jan did a bit of snipping to change the meaning without mentioning it.

Now I will expose that LIE.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/7a1882c5e85391aa

Peter Bowditch" <myfirstn...@ratbags.com> wrote in message

news:ddumb1t2lu44goh81vgtfn5op0467u3u7c@4ax.com...

I snipped not a word.

I will repeat what I said:

Hulda Clark says it. Anyone who does not believe that she is a lying
sack of sh.t agrees with her.

No, Hulda did not say that.

Now show your proof!!!!

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/1707a70c6e...

Hulda Clark says it. Anyone who does not believe that she is a lying
sack of sh.t agrees with her.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/86de578b22...

I

> have been challenged to name a single alternative practitioner who has
> killed 87 people. The facts are that real medicine has methods to deal
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> pathogenic organisms play no part. But then, hypocrisy is never short
> on the ground when quacks start criticising medicine.

>>http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/7a1882c5e85391aa
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> KACHING!! $1

Thanks for proving you KACHING when LIES are posted.

> I'm not bothering to read much further, but I suspect that Jan is
> accusing me of lying for calling Hulda Clark a lying sack of sh.t.

You suspect, but you are not reading much further.
You just LIED.

Or

> maybe I was lying when I accused Jan of selective and confusing
> snipping and quoting. Looking at the URL, maybe I was lying for saying
> that Jan posts to diabetic newsgroups when any fool can see that the
> above message was in misc.health.diabetes. And it was posted 5 months
> before I had a reason to go there (other than by responding to
> crossposting).

Maybe -- you were lying. NO maybe. You did LIE.

>>http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.diabetes/msg/7a1882c5e85391aa
>>
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>>
>>Now show your proof!!!!

I am waiting. Back up your claim. I repeat:

Now show your proof!!!!

>>http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/1707a70c6eeda675
>>
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>
> List them.

They have been listed many times, plus more of your lies.

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.dentistry/msg/e654a58aaae05af3

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/37da07c98f128162

http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/b356c5ff4f30cf8a

>>Now let's move on.
>>
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>
> KACHING!! $5

Thanks for proving again you KACHING when the absolute truth is posted.

>>Now, reading more on you sick filled page, FILLED with
>>lies,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
>
> List them.

Cannot read? Some are above.
Your tactic of asking over and over is exposed.

>>He even had the audacity to I had changed my words for who believes to
>>*who
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> <snip link to commercial web site, even though I really do appreciate
> Jan advertising for my employer>

http://www.gebesse.com.au/aboutus.htm

>>Gebesse is a computer consulting company specialising in providing
>>services
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>
> Damn fine company, that.

YOU are the owner and manager. YOU are not employed.

You read the whole thing.

You stated:

>*I'm not bothering to read much further but I suspect that Jan is
> accusing me of lying for calling Hulda Clark a lying sack of sh.t.

You just LIED AGAIN!!

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