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Equilibration / Abfractions

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Chris - 14 Dec 2006 04:37 GMT
All,

I posted some time ago about a problem my dentist identified with
abfractions. I have started the treatment, and he has completed the
equilibration.

My last visit was the start of the abfraction repair, in which he built the
lesions back up with a resin filler.

He numbed me for this process...fortunately! The process seemed to be very
agressive. He "stringed" my gumline so he could prep the part of the tooth
that would be built up with resin. He then applied the resin.

The first couple of days after the treatment - I could tell that sensitivity
I one had subsided...but now - holy God! The teeth that were fixed, on a
scale of 1-10 with 10 being intolerable, are a complete 10. Hurts like HELL.

I have some throbbing, and the sensitivity is thermal - cold only.

Is this normal? He told me that sensitivity could last for a bit - but this
is crazy - and 10 times worse that I ever experienced before.

He wants to do the remaining teeth on Monday - but I'm having second
thoughts. I want to call him tomorrow - but wanted to check this group
first.

Any help is appreciated!

Chris
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 14 Dec 2006 14:00 GMT
> All,
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> Chris

    Get a second opinion.  When I restore these (I frequently choose NOT
to) I treat them conservatively.  With modern adhesive dentistry I see
no reason to prepare these teeth, esp. on the root surface where there
is proximity to the pulp.

Steve

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Dartos - 14 Dec 2006 14:42 GMT
Abfractions may not be stopped with just an equilibration.  I would
recommend an NTI (small night time bite guard) as well.

As far as the pain, it could be the bonding system and technique
are to blame, or it could be that the dentist was over zealous
in trimming and polishing on the root surface.

Sensitivity should be less, not more.

D

>> The first couple of days after the treatment - I could tell that
>> sensitivity I one had subsided...but now - holy God! The teeth that
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>> Is this normal? He told me that sensitivity could last for a bit - but
>> this is crazy - and 10 times worse that I ever experienced before.

>> Any help is appreciated!
>>
>> Chris

>     Get a second opinion.  When I restore these (I frequently choose NOT
> to) I treat them conservatively.  With modern adhesive dentistry I see
> no reason to prepare these teeth, esp. on the root surface where there
> is proximity to the pulp.
>
> Steve
Chris - 14 Dec 2006 14:52 GMT
He has stated that he would like to look at a splint when the treatment is
finished.

For the sensitivity - what can be done to correct this if he was
"over-zealous"?

Chris

> Abfractions may not be stopped with just an equilibration.  I would
> recommend an NTI (small night time bite guard) as well.
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>> Steve
Dartos - 14 Dec 2006 20:31 GMT
> He has stated that he would like to look at a splint when the treatment is
> finished.
>
> For the sensitivity - what can be done to correct this if he was
> "over-zealous"?

If the root surface was abraded during finishing and polishing of the
restoration, it may respond to using a tooth paste for sensitive teeth,
high fluoride gel, or application of a self-etch bonding resin (my
preferred choice if the sensitivity is severe).  DO NOT use tartar
control tooth paste or anything that has bleaching/whitening ingredients.

I was just cutting a crown prep on a lower molar for a patient and
the air/water spray + suction was causing pain on the upper molar.
I dried the root surface and applied Clearfil SE bond, cured it, and
the problem was solved.

Clenching on sensitive teeth tends to keep them sensitive.  That's why
I make an NTI early in the treatment.  You may find you don't need an
equilibration at all and if you do, the dentist may find that the actual
'bite' is in a different position than he thought.

JME,
D
Chris - 14 Dec 2006 18:59 GMT
Thanks for the response - your thought on modern adhesive dentistry leads me
to another question.

My DDS commented that these fillers would probably have to be replace every
few years...they would probably not stay in place permanently. Is that your
experience when you do treat abfractions?

Chris
>> All,
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> Steve
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 14 Dec 2006 19:43 GMT
> Thanks for the response - your thought on modern adhesive dentistry leads me
> to another question.
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>
> Chris

    If these are indeed abfractive lesions, we can expect the same process
to continue if the parafunction (see post by Dartos) is not reduced.  If
it is toothbrush abrasion we can expect the fillings to wear if you
don't change your brushing habits.  However, composite resins hold up
much better than they used to, and this isn't an area of wear from
actual chewing.  So I have actually seen these hold up 10 years or more.
 Sometimes I use softer materials, esp. if I am afraid of sensitivity
(as you discovered, the bonding process had the potential to cause
sensitivity)--esp. on older patients with deep erosions, I often use
glass ionomer cement.  Even these I've seen hold up several years.

Steve

>>>All,
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>>Steve

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Chris - 14 Dec 2006 21:29 GMT
OK - back from the dentist.

Told him about the problem - and I have to admit - he danced a little. He
blew some cold air on the backs of my teeth that he repaired - no pain. Blew
it on the fronts, almost jumped out of the chair.

He instructed me to take advil, and to use a floride rinse (Dentx). He never
really gave me a straight answer on the cause, or the potential cure. He did
say that perhaps clenching activity could be pulling the bond away from the
tooth? Bottom line - he was not 100% certain of anything...but tell me that
he didnt think I needed a root canal at this time????

Now i'm frustrated

Chris

>> Thanks for the response - your thought on modern adhesive dentistry leads
>> me to another question.
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>>>Steve
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 14 Dec 2006 22:55 GMT
> OK - back from the dentist.
>
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> Now i'm frustrated

    One of those things.  The pulps may well recover.  The fluoride rinses
may help.
    But you're the one feeling the pain, and only you can decide when
you've had it.  My suggestion is that you avoid cold liquids for a week
or so.  You should see gradual improvement.  As long as things improve,
I'd give it a little more time.  If things go backwards or stop
improving and there is still significant pain, go back for sure.  This
procedure was intended to help, not drive you nuts.

Steve

> Chris
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Chris - 15 Dec 2006 19:19 GMT
Hey - thanks for your feedback on this topic!

I swallowed some advil yesterday, rinsed with the flouride...very good
result!

I'm going to stick with the advil and the rinse for a few days and see how
it goes. Advil helping tooth sensitity - would have never thought that would
be the case! Does this mean that more than likely the scenario is temporary?

Also - on the rinse...instructions say once a week. Should I go for more
than that?

Chris

>> OK - back from the dentist.
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dentaltwin@earthlink.net - 15 Dec 2006 19:39 GMT
> Hey - thanks for your feedback on this topic!
>
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> Chris

No promises--but if you've really got a hot tooth, ibuprofen ain't
doin' squat, so I see it as encouraging.
I'm not familiar with the particular fluoride rinse.  I'd ask your
dentist, but most of them are intended for daily use.

Steve
Newbie - 15 Dec 2006 16:35 GMT
As Dartos said, the cause of the abfractions must be addressed.

Also recommend the NTI. There are a number of factors that
influence whether an abfraction gets restored in my practice,
mainly depth, sensitivity, and decay.

>Thanks for the response - your thought on modern adhesive dentistry leads me
>to another question.
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>> Steve
Newbie - 15 Dec 2006 16:07 GMT
>> All,
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>
>Steve

I tend to prepare them a little to get some mechanical retention and
restore with filtek supreme plus flowable for small ones, larger ones
get flowable and Z250. Using Clear Fill Self Etch for bonding.

Rarely have to use retraction cord, a 212 rd clamp can be used
to retract the gingiva if necessary.
dentaltwin@earthlink.net - 15 Dec 2006 19:41 GMT
> I tend to prepare them a little to get some mechanical retention and
> restore with filtek supreme plus flowable for small ones, larger ones
> get flowable and Z250. Using Clear Fill Self Etch for bonding.
>
> Rarely have to use retraction cord, a 212 rd clamp can be used
> to retract the gingiva if necessary.

Sounds good.  I don't remember using retraction cord in a non-carious
situation--not many of these are subgingival.  I suppose if the
gingivae were really boggy it might be necessary.

Steve
 
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