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Tooth extracted - how does the hole heal?

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Dan - 05 Nov 2006 20:57 GMT
Hi.  I had a wisdom tooth removed the other day.  Could someone tell me
how the hole heals itself?  Does it heal from the bottom upwards - i.e.
pushing any food that may have got trapped in there out as it heals.
Or will the hole close up by healing from the sides of the hole - i.e.
potential of food that's trapped in there getting healed over.

Thanks for any info,
- Dan
Steven Bornfeld - 05 Nov 2006 21:11 GMT
> Hi.  I had a wisdom tooth removed the other day.  Could someone tell me
> how the hole heals itself?  Does it heal from the bottom upwards - i.e.
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> Thanks for any info,
> - Dan

    Excellent question.  First, don't worry about trapped food--it will
rinse out.
    When the gum is cut and the tooth is removed surgically, often the
extraction socket is sutured.  The intent is primarily to control
bleeding, but also if the edges of the cut gum can be put in close
approximation, there is the potential for the edges of the gum to heal
together.  What happens underneath though is that the blood clot is
replaced over several days by granulation tissue, and this gradually
matures and the bone heals as well.
    Most of the time and esp. if the extraction is not sutured, the socket
heals from the bottom up.  The surface mucosa gradually grows together
from the sides at the same time.  But for a while, the surface of the
socket is covered by granulation tissue (young, immature connective
tissue) until the gum can grow over it--sometimes a few weeks.  Even
after this time you may see a divet or crevasse, which will gradually
fill in over a few months.

Steve
Dan - 07 Nov 2006 03:53 GMT
> > Hi.  I had a wisdom tooth removed the other day.  Could someone tell me
> > how the hole heals itself?  Does it heal from the bottom upwards - i.e.
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>
> Steve

Hi Steve.  Thanks for your reply.  The extractions wasn't sutured.  It
was just forced out by what looked like a flat-head screwdriver and a
pair of pliers!  Was rather brutal I must say!

It's a week later, and it's starting to close up now.  Is it normal
that I'm experiencing so much pain?  I'm having to be on constant pain
killers.  Also there seems to be a lot of pain referral too.  I quite
often feel it on the upper jaw as well as the lower jaw.  If it is
normal that I'm still experiencing pain, do you have any idea how long
it'll go on for?

Thanks again,
- Dan
Steven Bornfeld - 07 Nov 2006 04:00 GMT
>>> Hi.  I had a wisdom tooth removed the other day.  Could someone tell me
>>> how the hole heals itself?  Does it heal from the bottom upwards - i.e.
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> Thanks again,
> - Dan

    It's not "normal", but unfortunately far from uncommon--esp. for lower
third molars.  You doubtless have a dry socket, which isn't dangerous
though very unpleasant.  At one week, you're probably on the downside
and moving toward recovery.  Still, dry socket can be relieved by
packing if necessary, and you may wish to ask your surgeon about this.

Steve
Dan - 11 Nov 2006 18:20 GMT
> >>> Hi.  I had a wisdom tooth removed the other day.  Could someone tell me
> >>> how the hole heals itself?  Does it heal from the bottom upwards - i.e.
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>
> Steve

I went back to the dentist, and she removed a lot of food that had
built up in the socket, and also put something in it (she said it was a
type of hurb).  I asked her if it was dry socket, but I couldn't tell
whether she said it was or wasn't (as she was foreign).

Everytime I eat I end up getting the socket full of food.  I've started
removing as much as I can with a small pair of tweezers.  I presume
that as long as I'm very careful, there's no issues with me doing this?

I'm also a bit concerned that I can still see bone at the bottom of the
socket.  Surely this should have healed over by now?  It's really
worrying being able to see my jaw bone! :-(  Am I doing enough to stop
infection by just removing the big pieces of food, and rinsing out my
mouth with salty water?  Is there anything more I can do?

Thanks again,
- Dan
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 11 Nov 2006 18:32 GMT
>>>>>Hi.  I had a wisdom tooth removed the other day.  Could someone tell me
>>>>>how the hole heals itself?  Does it heal from the bottom upwards - i.e.
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> Thanks again,
> - Dan

    No, and the pain should gradually subside.  You've described a dry
socket well--my sympathies.  Occasionally a bit of this bone breaks up
and is lost through the gum, but eventually the gum should heal over
it--not to worry about that.

Steve

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Dan - 11 Nov 2006 18:54 GMT
> >>>>>Hi.  I had a wisdom tooth removed the other day.  Could someone tell me
> >>>>>how the hole heals itself?  Does it heal from the bottom upwards - i.e.
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>
> Steve

The pain's mostly gone.  It's just mild discomfort now.  I was just
concerned about infection, and the fact that I could see jaw bone.  It
would also be great if I could find something to plug it up with to
stop food getting in.  I have no idea what to use as a plug though.

Thankyou for all your replies.  It's great talking to someone about my
concerns.  It's greatly appreciated.

- Dan
Newbie - 08 Nov 2006 21:44 GMT
>> Hi.  I had a wisdom tooth removed the other day.  Could someone tell me
>> how the hole heals itself?  Does it heal from the bottom upwards - i.e.
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>
>Steve

As usual I agree with Dr. B !
susieq1969@gmail.com - 25 Nov 2006 06:36 GMT
Hi Steve

I wondered if you could help?

I had a tooth extracted about 2 weeks ago, and i can see that i have
some food stuck in the hole.  This won't rinse out and i've already
been back to the dentist twice since the extraction and don't really
want to hassle him again.  I'm not in pain or anything and it's healing
nicely (as my dentist says, but i'm concerned that if i don't get this
little bit of food out, it might get infected again?

Am i worrying about nothing??

HELP!!

Rgds
Sooz

On Nov 6, 8:11 am, Steven Bornfeld <dentaltwinm...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> > Hi.  I had a wisdom tooth removed the other day.  Could someone tell me
> > how the hole heals itself?  Does it heal from the bottom upwards - i.e.
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>
> Steve
Steven Bornfeld - 26 Nov 2006 03:27 GMT
> Hi Steve
>
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> Rgds
> Sooz

    Almost certainly you are.  What you see as food may not even be food,
but the gradually epithelializing fibrin clot.  If you feel something
hard pushing through the gums I'd have it checked, as sometimes a small
piece of bone (sequestrum) can break free and can be an irritant if it
remains.  But if there's no pain it's very unlikely you have anything to
worry about.

Stve
Newbie - 29 Nov 2006 15:42 GMT
>Hi Steve
>
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>Rgds
>Sooz

If the dentist has looked at it twice, I doubt that there is any food
stuck in the extraction site.

What you are likely seeing is the 'fibrin clot' this is normal, leave it alone.
REP - 30 Nov 2006 07:59 GMT
> If the dentist has looked at it twice, I doubt that there is any food
> stuck in the extraction site.
>
> What you are likely seeing is the 'fibrin clot' this is normal, leave it
> alone.

Thank goodness somone else is asking these questions so I don't have to
start a new thread with yet another "duh" question...

I had #15 extracted 11/7; it was checked about a week later (my teeth
have long roots, and there was some concern some sinus problem might
arise; it didn't) and it was healing well. It still feels a bit odd, but
not sore or painful at all, no bad odor or taste, and food *does* get
caught in it - I just removed a fragment of dinner from it; definitely a
grain of rice and not a fibrin clot. Should I bother the oral surgeon,
or just continue to make sure it's clean? I brush the socket (gently) to
make sure no food fragments remain in it.

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Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 30 Nov 2006 17:03 GMT
>>If the dentist has looked at it twice, I doubt that there is any food
>>stuck in the extraction site.
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> or just continue to make sure it's clean? I brush the socket (gently) to
> make sure no food fragments remain in it.

    This sounds not to be a reason for concern.  Just keep it clean--gently.

Steve

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REP - 01 Dec 2006 05:17 GMT
> > grain of rice and not a fibrin clot. Should I bother the oral surgeon,
> > or just continue to make sure it's clean? I brush the socket (gently) to
> > make sure no food fragments remain in it.
>
>     This sounds not to be a reason for concern.  Just keep it clean--gently.

Thanks! (And I'm sure the oral surgeon would thank you, too, if he knew
you were fielding my dumb-a.s questions.)

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Eva Quesnell - 05 Dec 2006 16:27 GMT
> If the dentist has looked at it twice, I doubt that there is any food
> stuck in the extraction site.
>
> What you are likely seeing is the 'fibrin clot' this is normal, leave it alone.

What does this "fibrin clot" look like?  Is it kinda white?  I had my last
molar, bottom left, extracted last Wednesday.  It still hurts -- not a lot
and not all the time.  I have Meniere's Syndrome, and the tooth makes the
ear hurt -- or the ear makes the tooth hurt.  I'm not sure which.  It
doesn't hurt a lot like a dry socket.  It just won't go away.  I haven't
gone back to the dentist.  I took Aleve this morning, and now it's just
my ear that hurts.  There's no food stuck in there.  I carefully rinse it
out by swooshing water around there.  It's healing up, but it won't stop
hurting.

Eva
Newbie - 05 Dec 2006 22:39 GMT
>> If the dentist has looked at it twice, I doubt that there is any food
>> stuck in the extraction site.
>>
>> What you are likely seeing is the 'fibrin clot' this is normal, leave it alone.
>
>What does this "fibrin clot" look like?  Is it kinda white?

Yes, kinda whitd/cream colored.

>  I had my last
>molar, bottom left, extracted last Wednesday.  It still hurts -- not a lot
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>
>Eva

You may have a *partial* dry socket, it wouldn't hurt to get it checked.
It will take some time to heal completely.
Eva Quesnell - 05 Dec 2006 23:21 GMT
>>> If the dentist has looked at it twice, I doubt that there is any food
>>> stuck in the extraction site.
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> You may have a *partial* dry socket, it wouldn't hurt to get it checked.
> It will take some time to heal completely.

Well, now that I put this question to the group, it stopped hurting today.
Figures.  But I do appreciate the time you took to answer me.  Thanks.

Eva
Newbie - 06 Dec 2006 15:59 GMT
>> You may have a *partial* dry socket, it wouldn't hurt to get it checked.
>> It will take some time to heal completely.
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>
>Eva

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