I get a cold sore on my lip a few times a year.
I spoke to a few different people and everyone gives me a different
treatment.
So I am confused which one to use.
1. My doctor said to take 500mg of Valtrex 3 times a day until the cold
sore is gone.
2. My dentist said to take 1gram 3 times a day until the cold sore is
gone.
3. The pharmacist said to take 2 grams twice a day for 1 day and thats
it. She said it is what the company that makes Valtrex recommends
also.
The pharmacist also recommended Denavir.
What treatment option listed is best in your experience.
What are your thoughts on Denavir vs. Valtrex for cold sores?
What about Abreva? I believe it is over the counter, but since I have
insurance I might as well take advantage and get a more effective
treatment.
I've never used Valtrex so I don't know the dosage. But I can see how
confusing it must be!
Good luck.
ar
>I get a cold sore on my lip a few times a year.
> I spoke to a few different people and everyone gives me a different
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> insurance I might as well take advantage and get a more effective
> treatment.
1. Yes, emedicine recommends 500 mg twice a day for recurrences.
2. This dosage would be more proper for a primary episode.
3. Perhaps read an article online about this or talk to your doctor
about your dosage confusion.
I never used any antivirals, I'm thinking about it though, but I have
used Abreva and it seemed to help.
> I get a cold sore on my lip a few times a year.
> I spoke to a few different people and everyone gives me a different
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> insurance I might as well take advantage and get a more effective
> treatment.
Yoshi2me - 10 Oct 2006 13:16 GMT
> 1. Yes, emedicine recommends 500 mg twice a day for recurrences.
When I have a herpes outbreak, I take 500 mg twice daily until it looks like
the outbreak is gone. I may even throw in a couple of extra days just to be
on the safe side, but that's just me.
> 2. This dosage would be more proper for a primary episode.
That's not to say a person who has recurrances couldn't take that dosage.
You don't have to have a primary 1st time episode in order to take 500 mg
twice daily.
> 3. Perhaps read an article online about this or talk to your doctor
> about your dosage confusion.
I would look up the Valtrex web site since that is the med you are
considering and see what their recommendations are for oral herpes outbreaks
and go from there.
Angela :)
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cool_n_ny@yahoo.com - 10 Oct 2006 17:20 GMT
> 1. Yes, emedicine recommends 500 mg twice a day for recurrences.
I assume until the cold sore is gone?
> 3. Perhaps read an article online about this or talk to your doctor
> about your dosage confusion.
If I talk to my doctor, wouldn't he just repeat his recommendation?
:)
> I never used any antivirals, I'm thinking about it though, but I have
> used Abreva and it seemed to help.
I would think Abreva since it is over the counter wouldn't be as strong
as a prescription medicine.
Maybe I'll look into denavir some more.
Yoshi2me - 10 Oct 2006 18:07 GMT
>> 1. Yes, emedicine recommends 500 mg twice a day for recurrences.
>
> I assume until the cold sore is gone?
Well, if the oral herpes outbreak doesn't go away then wouldn't you need to
see how long it takes for the antiviral to work?
>> 3. Perhaps read an article online about this or talk to your doctor
>> about your dosage confusion.
>
> If I talk to my doctor, wouldn't he just repeat his recommendation?
> :)
Look, medical professionals have their own opinions and don't always base
them on the prescription recommendations. Also, medical professionals treat
their patients on a case by case basis so just because one person takes a
set amount doesn't mean you will take the same set amount. The prescription
recommendations is a good place to start. However, ultimately you are going
to need to figure out what you think is going to work best for your
situation.
>> I never used any antivirals, I'm thinking about it though, but I have
>> used Abreva and it seemed to help.
>
> I would think Abreva since it is over the counter wouldn't be as strong
> as a prescription medicine.
> Maybe I'll look into denavir some more.
Good luck, I'm sure you will figure it out.
Angela
>I get a cold sore on my lip a few times a year.
> I spoke to a few different people and everyone gives me a different
> treatment.
> So I am confused which one to use.
When you say that you get a "cold sore" on your lip a few times a year, what
you are really trying to say is that you have oral herpes and you get
outbreaks a couple of times a year on or around your mouth, right?
> 1. My doctor said to take 500mg of Valtrex 3 times a day until the cold
> sore is gone.
What seems to be the issue with that? Have you read the prescribing
information on the Valtrex site?
> 2. My dentist said to take 1gram 3 times a day until the cold sore is
> gone.
Did your dentist say why he thought 1 gram 3 times a day was necessary? That
seems to be excessive to me, but what do I know? I've only had herpes for 11
years.
> 3. The pharmacist said to take 2 grams twice a day for 1 day and thats
> it. She said it is what the company that makes Valtrex recommends
> also.
Did you look up the site to see for yourself yet?
> The pharmacist also recommended Denavir.
I'm assuming Denavir is some sort of cream? I've always heard to keep the
area clean and dry because it promoted quicker healing times. But then
again, maybe the Denavir would help with any pain or discomfort you might
have.
> What treatment option listed is best in your experience.
I have genital herpes and have always found that taking 500 mg twice daily
did the trick. Two or three days is all that I need. If I were you, I would
look up the site and see what their recommendations are.
> What are your thoughts on Denavir vs. Valtrex for cold sores?
If it were me, and I had oral herpes, knowing what I know after 11 years of
dealing with herpes, I'd take the Valtrex.
> What about Abreva? I believe it is over the counter, but since I have
> insurance I might as well take advantage and get a more effective
> treatment.
Yes, since you have insurance you might as well.
If it were me, I would stay away from the creams and ointments, but that's
just me.
Good luck and best wishes,
Angela
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cool_n_ny@yahoo.com - 10 Oct 2006 17:15 GMT
> When you say that you get a "cold sore" on your lip a few times a year, what
> you are really trying to say is that you have oral herpes and you get
> outbreaks a couple of times a year on or around your mouth, right?
Yes
> > 1. My doctor said to take 500mg of Valtrex 3 times a day until the cold
> > sore is gone.
>
> What seems to be the issue with that?
My issue is that I get differing opinions from differnet "experts".
Doctor, Dentist (who probably sees more Oral outbreaks than a regular
doctor), and a Pharmacist.
> Have you read the prescribing information on the Valtrex site?
Yes, they said: "While taking VALTREX for cold sores, you should not
exceed one day of treatment, two doses taken 12 hours apart"
> Did your dentist say why he thought 1 gram 3 times a day was necessary? That
> seems to be excessive to me, but what do I know? I've only had herpes for 11
> years.
Maybe he recommends a stronger dosage for HSV1 because it is on the lip
and visible to everyone?
> > 3. The pharmacist said to take 2 grams twice a day for 1 day and thats
> > it. She said it is what the company that makes Valtrex recommends
> > also.
>
> Did you look up the site to see for yourself yet?
Yes.
> > The pharmacist also recommended Denavir.
>
> I'm assuming Denavir is some sort of cream? I've always heard to keep the
> area clean and dry because it promoted quicker healing times. But then
> again, maybe the Denavir would help with any pain or discomfort you might
> have.
Yes, Denavir is a anti-viral prescription cream,
"It penetrates the area to block the virus that causes cold sores.
Denavir® works best when it's applied during the early signs of a
cold sore - at the tingle or when a blister appears"
Yoshi2me - 10 Oct 2006 18:11 GMT
My issue is that I get differing opinions from differnet "experts".
Doctor, Dentist (who probably sees more Oral outbreaks than a regular
doctor), and a Pharmacist.
~ * Yes but everybody's situation is different.
Yes, they said: "While taking VALTREX for cold sores, you should not
exceed one day of treatment, two doses taken 12 hours apart"
~ * Ok, then that's what you start at. If it doesn't work then your doctor
has a right to help you increase that dosage. Not everything is black and
white.
Maybe he recommends a stronger dosage for HSV1 because it is on the lip
and visible to everyone?
~ * Or maybe that is what worked for many of his past patients and that is
what he is expecting for you. I don't think it has anything to do with the
fact that I can see yours but you can't see mine.
Yes, Denavir is a anti-viral prescription cream,
"It penetrates the area to block the virus that causes cold sores.
Denavir® works best when it's applied during the early signs of a
cold sore - at the tingle or when a blister appears"
~ * Creams are useless on herpes simplex virus. In my opinion it's a waste
of money, but what do I know, right?
Angela
Tim Fitzmaurice - 11 Oct 2006 07:56 GMT
>> The pharmacist also recommended Denavir.
>
> I'm assuming Denavir is some sort of cream? I've always heard to keep the
Yes, penciclovir in topical form if I remembr correctly. Some countries it
is marketed under the name Vectavir.
Tim
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Dear Cool,
I've had oral HSV-1 for all of my adult life. Like you, I had one or
two outbreaks a year, and then the virus went dormant for several
years. Recently (last March), I had a big outbreak...two blisters
instead of the usual one, and then again last month, I had a single
blister.
Last month, I bought some Abreva to see if it would shorten the
duration of the cold sore. At first I thought it seemed to, but it
wound up still taking a week for the blister to totally go away.
Perhaps if I had started the Abreva at the first sign of the outbreak,
that would have helped. By the time I started using it...the blister
had already developed.
I do not take Valtrex at all. It's expensive and I don't see the need.
My husband has type 1 genitally (a gift from me, due to our ignorance)
and during the times that I feel like I'm getting an outbreak, and when
I have one, I am just much more cautious. I am more careful around my
children in regard to drinking glasses, eating utensils,etc. Although
transmission like this is more difficult, it's not impossible.
You could take Valtrex suppressively to minimize the spread of the
virus to others. Other than that, taking it at the onset of the
outbreak is only going lessen the time which you have the lesion
(supposedly, like I said, I've never taken it...so I can't say from
experience).
I guess what I'm trying to say is...it depends on the reason you want
to take the Valtrex...whether it be for protecting someone else and
limiting the number of outbreaks you have each year (you'd need to take
it constantly for this) or whether you just want to shorten the length
and severity of your outbreak.
Good luck either way.
Michelle
> I get a cold sore on my lip a few times a year.
> I spoke to a few different people and everyone gives me a different
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> insurance I might as well take advantage and get a more effective
> treatment.
When I was initially prescribed acyclovir for herpes the dosage was to
take 200 mg five times a day upon the onset of the outbreak.
That did absolutely nothing, (which I couldn't see how it would) -- a
complete waste of time and money.
Then my internist at Mayo Clinic advised me that when I could first
sense the onset (tingling stage), just take _all five_ 200 mg pills at
once and "tromp on it."
From then on, that's what I have done, and I almost never have them
anymore.
I've even done it when the blisters are actually becoming visible --
took all five pills like he said and they would stop growing and just
kind of disappear back into my body, believe it or not. But it is
important, obviously, to take all those pills IMMEDIATELY. For that
reason, I have a small container made for pills on my keychain so I can
take the five pills at absolutely any time.
Once the blister has manifested itself, no pills, cream, nothing is
going to do much for it, if anything.
I've been getting them all my life since childhood, and I am vividly
aware of what it feels like when I'm about to have an outbreak. I take
all the pills at once and that's the end of it.
I would expect any doctor to concur with this advice, since mine came
from the world famous Mayo Clinic itself.
The only time I ever get a cold sore now is if it begins to appear
after I've gone to sleep for the night -- then when I wake up I'll have
one since I wasn't awake to stop it and of course it's too late to do
anything about it since it's already completely formed.
But anyway, this really works. Some of the best advice I've ever
gotten --really made a difference in my life. Pretty much eliminated
the whole problem entirely, compared to how it was.
xiazl@yahoo.com - 13 Dec 2006 20:43 GMT
I accidentally found that taking vitamin C can stop the cold sore. I
take one 500mg in the morning with empty stomach or upon the onset.
I've tried twice and it worked very well. Even when the blister has
already formed, taking vitamin C can stop it getting worse and I can
use some makeup to cover it. I have cold sore a couple of times every
year.
> When I was initially prescribed acyclovir for herpes the dosage was to
> take 200 mg five times a day upon the onset of the outbreak.
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> gotten --really made a difference in my life. Pretty much eliminated
> the whole problem entirely, compared to how it was.