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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / July 2006any suggestions would help
I had a back molar removed two days ago and now I am going to need an implant. I have no coverage. Is there any plan that covers implants..or is that considered a cosmetic surgical procedure. Also, is it too late to join a plan (if there is any plan that covers implants?) I need to know if any plan would accept me if there is any plan that does cover implants..... I was told that no plan short of a medical plan would cover an implant.. I should also mention at this time that I need a plan that won't bust my balls for having a pre existing condition. My tooth has already been extracted... Is there a dental or modeical plan out there that would accept me for already having a pre existing condition... knowing that I need an implant ? Or should I just go any pay the $4000 it will cost out of pocket ? I could probably live without a tooth for a while... I don't think the other teeth will shift... any suggestions would be helpful. thanks in advance of any replies. Nope, no plan. Start savin' your dough ... no ciggies etc -- Joel34 > I had a back molar removed two days ago and now I am going to need an > implant. I have no coverage. Is there any plan that covers implants..or is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > will shift... any suggestions would be helpful. thanks in advance of any > replies. Do you really need the implant, or is the dentist just telling you this? A root canal was suggested to me last year when I went to the dentist after many, many years of not visiting one. The tooth was in upper jaw and not at all visible to people. I elected to have it pulled instead and don't miss the tooth at all. This tooth had a small abscess and was beginning to hurt some. I have great teeth, gums and bone. My dentist was astounded. He said my frequent brushing and genes were probably the reason. ----- Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1, Israel's favor. Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1. --------- http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html ---------- "Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." ---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001  SignatureCliff >> I had a back molar removed two days ago and now I am going to need an >> implant. I have no coverage. Is there any plan that covers implants..or [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > was astounded. He said my frequent brushing and genes were probably > the reason. I suppose the dentist COULD be just telling me that I need an implant...... all my other teeth are healthy as I suppose yours are. The dentist was astounded at my other healthy teeth as well. The tooth that is missing is the lower (bottom) left side.. not the last tooth but the one next to it. It would feel strange to not have it replaced..... If I don't I imagine the two teeth next to the missing one will shift in some manner at SOME point..So I am thinking replace it with something before it is too late..... Am I crazy for thinking that? I never had braces.. My teeth were the one thing about me that was pretty good all my life .. Why? You think I should just leave it empty ? > I suppose the dentist COULD be just telling me that I need an implant...... > all my other teeth are healthy as I suppose yours are. The dentist was [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > me that was pretty good all my life .. Why? You think I should just leave > it empty ? Well, I can only give my unprofessional opinion. I am no dentist, and I can't really decide for you, but I feel quite sure if it were me, I'd forget the implant. For one thing, I never liked the whole idea of screwing false teeth into my bone; sounded like potentially opening up a whole new set of problems. As far as the shifting of teeth because of the vacancy; I've always said so what? I had a large molar pulled when I was a kid, and there was a little shifting in the subsequent years....big deal. I just have more room in the area, making the couple of shifted teeth easier to clean. I never could tell that they were weakened in any way from shifting. I haven't noticed any shifting from the extraction last year. Don't sweat it. ----- Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1, Israel's favor. Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1. --------- http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html ---------- "Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." ---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001 SignatureCliff >> I suppose the dentist COULD be just telling me that I need an >> implant...... [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > were weakened in any way from shifting. I haven't noticed any > shifting from the extraction last year. Don't sweat it. I wouldn't mind hearing the opinion of anyone else on the matter.. Any dentists out there? I have until the 8th of august to decide what to do.. as that is my appointment for consultation with the periodontist to check out the space for the implant...... I am not even sure if I have enough bone under the missing tooth to drill an implant into...... looks pretty empty to me..... >>>I suppose the dentist COULD be just telling me that I need an >>>implant...... [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > under the missing tooth to drill an implant into...... looks pretty empty to > me..... You must of course have adequate bone to place an implant fixture. You should look at the options for replacement. I forget which tooth this is. There are circumstances where replacement is less important, but overall you are much better replacing teeth where feasible than leaving a space. The outcomes depend very much on your particular situation, which obviously your own dentist is in a much better position to discuss. Steve >>>>I suppose the dentist COULD be just telling me that I need an >>>>implant...... [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > Steve the tooth that was extracted is the lower left side..not the last tooth but the one next to it from the back of the mouth... I dont see any bone below the missing space... then again I am still in the healing stage from the extraction.... I would think that any back tooth should be replaced ... I will take your advice though and spend the $80 for the consult with the periodontist. I am sure he will advise to replce the tooth with an implant... But like you said I am not sure if there is enough bone to replace it with.... I hope there is.. I don't see any.... but I don't know anything about teeth.... there might be below the redness....some bone ?? > the tooth that was extracted is the lower left side..not the last tooth but > the one next to it from the back of the mouth... I dont see any bone below [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > replace it with.... I hope there is.. I don't see any.... but I don't know > anything about teeth.... there might be below the redness....some bone ?? You can't tell how much bone is present by looking. X-rays will give you a hint. In some circumstances a CAT is advisable. If there is inadequate bone it can be augmented by grafting. This will of course increase the complexity and expense of treatment. The lower molar area is usually a good area for implants, but the major nerve running through the jaw must be avoidable. Time is important--bone in the area will be lost over the next several months in the area of the extraction, so don't take too much time making your decision. Steve >> the tooth that was extracted is the lower left side..not the last tooth >> but the one next to it from the back of the mouth... I dont see any bone [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Steve Yes, I have a consult on the 8th of august...... I'll leave it to the periodontist to NOT hit the nerve running through my jaw.... and to give me his professional opinion .. I hope hes a good doctor... > Yes, I have a consult on the 8th of august...... I'll leave it to the > periodontist to NOT hit the nerve running through my jaw.... and to give me > his professional opinion .. I hope hes a good doctor... I hope you're not going to this periodontist cold. Hopefully you know others who have been treated by him and can give you a strong recommendation. Good luck, Steve >> Yes, I have a consult on the 8th of august...... I'll leave it to the >> periodontist to NOT hit the nerve running through my jaw.... and to give [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Good luck, > Steve It's the same office that removed my tooth last friday..... It won't be the same doctor.... The periodontist is someone I have never met.... The office seemed respectable..... but what do I know???? Anyway.. on 8/8/06 I have an appointment for a consult only.. I suppose he will tell me if I have enough bone to drill a stint into...etc... Is there a way I can check on the doctor before even going for a consult.. I was going to base my opinion on him after meeting him..... I really have no idea about any of his past mistakes.. if there are any....I don't know anyone that has gone to him before.... I will be going there "cold" ... should I be worried ? I am usually a good judge of character.. but I am sure everyone thinks that way.... >> I suppose the dentist COULD be just telling me that I need an implant...... >> all my other teeth are healthy as I suppose yours are. The dentist was [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >were weakened in any way from shifting. I haven't noticed any >shifting from the extraction last year. Don't sweat it. I agree. I have lost two teeth, one is the same one as this guy is talking about which I lost a couple of years ago after a failed root canal. Lost the other one years ago and don't see any problems with having not replaced it. Neither gap shows and eating is unaffected. I think people obsess too much about replacing lost teeth. It isn't always necessary. Ann >>> I suppose the dentist COULD be just telling me that I need an >>> implant...... [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Ann I am not sure if I should just leave it and not replace the lost tooth... It is one of the back teeth ..... I do't think I could get used to chewing food without it there. If it were a front tooth I may consider taking your advice and not replacing it... but a back molar ??? I am an adult now and any shifting would be permanent.... I'm not obsessing about the lost tooth, however, I think an implant would be best.... Ann, are you saying you lost a back molar and never had it replaced? how long did it take to get used to not having a tooth there and how long until it stopped hurting after the tooth was removed that you were able eat without a funny empty tooth feeling there? >>>> I suppose the dentist COULD be just telling me that I need an >>>> implant...... [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >tooth was removed that you were able eat without a funny empty tooth feeling >there? Maybe you should replace the tooth because it obviously bothers you. it never occurred to me to replace either tooth. I just don't have the money. If I lost a front tooth I would have a problem as I would want to replace it for aesthetic reasons. Of course it's tender when the tooth is first removed and you have to eat on the other side but after a few weeks it's just forgotten. I don't notice that it isn't there. Actually one tooth is missing from bottom left and the other from top right so if anyone ought to notice when eating it's me, and I just don't. >>>>> I suppose the dentist COULD be just telling me that I need an >>>>> implant...... [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > bottom left and the other from top right so if anyone ought to notice > when eating it's me, and I just don't. I was told that if I wait too long.. like 5 or 6 months..The tooth would be near impossible, or at the very least, difficult to replace. Is there any truth to this? Something about the bone beneath the gum settling further than if it were taken care of sooner than later. If you wanted to have any of your lost teeth replaced now. Would it be more difficult than if you took care of it a month after the tooth was extracted? The biggest problem with a tooth missing is cleaning it. I have crohn's disease and unfortunately have lost most of my teeth but I have one section with only one tooth missing and now need repairs (I hope). I went with a bridge. I have an appt for some more repairs to my upper denture, the teeth I have and my bridge broke so that will need to be replaced. Good luck with your decision. UM MOM Susan >I had a back molar removed two days ago and now I am going to need an >implant. I have no coverage. Is there any plan that covers implants..or is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >other teeth will shift... any suggestions would be helpful. thanks in >advance of any replies. > The biggest problem with a tooth missing is cleaning it. I have crohn's > disease and unfortunately have lost most of my teeth but I have one section > with only one tooth missing and now need repairs (I hope). I went with a > bridge. I have an appt for some more repairs to my upper denture, the teeth > I have and my bridge broke so that will need to be replaced. Good luck with > your decision. UM MOM Susan Cleaning a missing tooth... Where? In the trash can. DUH. > >I had a back molar removed two days ago and now I am going to need an > >implant. I have no coverage. Is there any plan that covers implants..or is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >other teeth will shift... any suggestions would be helpful. thanks in > >advance of any replies. robcobb, > Or should I just go any pay the $4000 it will cost out of pocket ? That is ~$2,700 in Mexico and less in Asia. Steve Richfie1d > robcobb, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Steve Richfie1d yea I think I'll pay an extra $1000 and have the procedure done around the block from where I live >>> > I had a back molar removed two days ago and now I am going to need an > implant. I have no coverage. Is there any plan that covers implants..or is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > will shift... any suggestions would be helpful. thanks in advance of any > replies. $4000 for an implant? Where are you getting this figure? I thought it could be done for as little as $2000 in the U.S. I had the same tooth (bottom left middle molar) removed 2 weeks ago. I didn't know what to expect but so far I am not having any problems chewing and I don't seem to miss it (but still too early to tell). The only reason I am considering implant is shifting/eruption of neighboring teeth. I think implant is a 2 step process with the first step being implementation of the metal screws and then the actual tooth months later. My insurance does not cover implants. If the procedures are billed seperately, I was considering getting the screws first and the tooth later, if it is possible to wait a year or two. Hopefully the costs of implants will come down as more people have them. Also, like you, I am not sure of dentist bias; they are in the business of selling implants so how can they give credible advice on whether you need one? I guess the fact that they are not covered by the overwhelming number of dental insurance plans indicates that implants are a cosmetic procedure. > I had a back molar removed two days ago and now I am going to need an > implant. I have no coverage. Is there any plan that covers implants..or is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > will shift... any suggestions would be helpful. thanks in advance of any > replies. >I had the same tooth (bottom left middle molar) removed 2 weeks ago. > > I didn't know what to expect but so far I am not having any problems > chewing and I don't seem to miss it (but still too early to tell). Not having problems chewing ? When I eat I get food caught in the empty space.... feels weird.. and since it's only been a week for me.. I still feel a little raw..... I try to chew on the other (right) side of my mouth. > The only reason I am considering implant is shifting/eruption of > neighboring teeth. Same > I think implant is a 2 step process with the first step being > implementation of the metal screws and then the actual tooth months > later. If you wait too long I was told it gets more difficult to place an implant.. something about it being more difficult to get to the bone..... Is there any truth to this? > My insurance does not cover implants. If the procedures are billed > seperately, I was considering getting the screws first and the tooth > later, if it is possible to wait a year or two. good question. I don't thnk any dental plan covers implants as it is considered a cosmetic procedure... you believe that sh.t ? a crown is covered by insurance but you have to shave away part of the good teeth that surround the missing tooth..... I don't have dental insurance anyway.. but.. An implant is considered cosmetic? f.cking insurance companies suck.. I am glad I don't have a dental plan.... apparently they suck anyway. > Hopefully the costs of implants will come down as more people have > them. doubtful... imlants have been around for a while and people get them all the time....regardless, it doesn't help us out as we both need them now.... > Also, like you, I am not sure of dentist bias; they are in the business > of selling implants so how can they give credible advice on whether > you need one? They can't...those greedy bastards.... Credible advice might cost them a customer. > I guess the fact that they are not covered by the overwhelming number > of dental insurance plans indicates that implants are a cosmetic > procedure. Umm ya.. makes me wonder why anyone would even bother to get dental insurance. Also, for the record... I don't think ANY dental plan covers implants.... if there is one it would probably be so ecpensive you wouldn't bother. >> I had a back molar removed two days ago and now I am going to need an >> implant. I have no coverage. Is there any plan that covers implants..or [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> will shift... any suggestions would be helpful. thanks in advance of any >> replies. |
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