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Medical Forum / General / Dentistry / August 2006Top Dentist Blames Electricity From Amalgams
A top dentist who numbers among his patients some of the World's biggest soccer stars has spoken out about the adverse physiological effects caused by the electrical behavior of dental amalgams. Dr Philip Wander, who claims to have treated some of the English soccer league's best known players (including international superstar David Beckham) at his surgery in Manchester, England, makes the following assertions regarding the electrical effects of amalgam dental fillings: "Nevertheless, as potentially damaging as mercury in the mouth is the electricity itself. When testing teeth for electrical effects, I have seen momentary sparks of up to one volt - enough to light a small torch or flashlight. It's worth remembering that the currents generated by amalgams are formed very close to the brain, which ordinarily operated at far lower potentials (only a few millivolts). The brain lies only a few millietres from the jaw bone, where the roots of the teeth are inserted, just on the other side of the thin cranial bone and the meninges (the three membranes enveloping the brain and spinal cord). This kind of current can cause mental dysfunction, which I often find in clinical practice." See: http://www.wanderdental.co.uk/mercuryfreedentistry.html Is Dr Wander guilty of attempting to raise unnecessary concerns by scaremongering? Or has the mainstream dental profession been making a ridiculously dumb error for most of the last 200 years? Keith P Walsh PS, it appears that most dentists (including even Dr Wander perhaps) have been taught to believe that dissimilar metals in contact with each other are only able to produce an electrical current if they become involved in an electrolytic reaction. Not so. It has been known for more than 160 years that metals, mixtures of metals and dissimilar metals in contact with each othe are able to dissipate electrical energy to their surroundings as a result of their thermoelectric behavior. AND THERE IS NO ELECTROLYSIS INVOLVED. Does anyone know if anyone has ever attempted to measure the thermoelectric properties of a typical dental amalgam? (An elementary description of the thermoelectric effect can be seen at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/thermo2.htm - and there really is no electrolysis involved.) > A top dentist who numbers among his patients some of the World's > biggest soccer stars has spoken out about the adverse physiological [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Is Dr Wander guilty of attempting to raise unnecessary concerns by > scaremongering? I wouldn't judge Dr. Wander too harshly for that--it's just advertising, and I've seen more egregious examples of this here in the states. I do wonder about his diagnosing of "mental disfunction" in his dental practice, though. Steve  SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 >> A top dentist who numbers among his patients some of the World's >> biggest soccer stars has spoken out about the adverse physiological [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > I do wonder about his diagnosing of "mental disfunction" in his >dental practice, though. But what's your opinion on the mainstream dental profession's "ridiculously dumb error"? What is this soccer you're referring to. A card game? carabelli I think it's kind of like polo, but without the horses. The chickens took about 3 hours and were delicious (ribs were too of course). > What is this soccer you're referring to. A card game? > > carabelli > I think it's kind of like polo, but without the horses. > > The chickens took about 3 hours and were delicious (ribs > were too of course). And I wasn't invited? Steve >> What is this soccer you're referring to. A card game? >> >> carabelli SignatureMark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 I had no idea you might fly down. However with fresh sweet corn, garden tomatoes, scotcheroos, BBQ, and fireworks, it might have been worth it. >> I think it's kind of like polo, but without the horses. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >>> >>> carabelli > I think it's kind of like polo, but without the horses. OK, I saw highlights from the World Cup. Evidentally it's a game designed for people with disabilities. Only a couple guys seemed capable of catching the ball. carabelli > What is this soccer you're referring to. A card game? > > carabelli Still the same old nonsense..when the subject is something SERIOUS. Sad that. > > What is this soccer you're referring to. A card game? > > > > carabelli > > Still the same old nonsense.. Good assessment of the topic! T >> Still the same old nonsense.. > >Good assessment of the topic! You're just too arrogant to acknowledge your own ignorance. "Galvanic" activity (electrolysis) does not account for all of the electrical behavior of metallic materials. Far from it. Metals, mixtures of metals, and dissimilar metals in contact with each other are able to generate electrical potentials as a result of their thermoelectric and electromagnetic properties They do this in varying degrees according to the following physical properties: Electrical Conductivity (measured in siemens per metre) Thermoelectric Coefficient (measured in volts per kelvin) Permeability (measured in henrys per metre) Permittivity (measured in farads per metre) And there is no electrolysis involved. In order to gain an accurate scientific understanding of the electrical behavior of any material it is necessary to measure its electrical properties. However, in spite of the fact that metal amalgam dental fillings are placed in children's teeth, it appears that no-one has ever even attempted to measure any of the properties listed above for a typical dental amalgam. So it also appears that, with regard to the electromagnetic and thermoelectric behavior of dental amalgams, everyone is ignorant. Including you. Keith P Walsh PS, An elementary description of the thermoelectric effect can be seen at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/thermo2.htm - and there really is no electrolysis involved. > >> Still the same old nonsense.. > > > >Good assessment of the topic! > > You're just too arrogant to acknowledge your own ignorance. Well then, it would appear that we suffer from the same malady. T > > You're just too arrogant to acknowledge your own ignorance. > > Well then, it would appear that we suffer from the same malady. > > T Well let's see shall we? It has been demonstrated experimentally that metal amalgam dental fillings generate electrical potentials with magnitudes of up to 350 millivolts*. See: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed&cmd=Retrieve&list_uids=2 231160&dopt=Citation It has also been demonstrated experimentally that the resting potential of the human neurological synapse is only 70 millivolts. >From my own appreciation of the sensitivity of modern instrumentation it is possible for me to at least imagine an experiment which might be devised in order to investigate whether or not the neurological function in the vicinity of the teeth of a person with amalgam dental fillings is measurably different from that in the vicitity of the teeth of a person without. However, as far as I am aware, no such experiment has ever been attempted. (Alternatively, if any such experiment has been attempted then as far as I am aware the results are not generally available.) By this reasoning I feel that I have identified a degree of ignorance, which need not exist, as to whether or not the electrical potentials generated by amalgam fillings are able to dissipate electrical energy through the nerves in people's heads. Now, I am perfectly willing (though not necessarily entirely happy) to acknowledge that this ignorance is shared by myself. The question is, are you willing to do the same? Or are you too arrogant? Keith P Walsh (* other studies have demonstrated that these electrical potentials appear to re-establish themselves quite quickly whenever they are momentarily discharged, see: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2 103035&dopt=Abstract - which indicates that, rather than existing only fleetingly or temporarily, these potentials might generally be regarded as an almost permanent feature of metal amalgam fillings.) >What is this soccer you're referring to. A card game? > >carabelli Have heard it's a Euro term for spousal abuse. (sock-her) How many millivolts would that be -- Joel34 >How many millivolts would that be? I think you've missed something here. In the old days when ignorance and arrogance still held sway, dentists like Dr Philip Wander who both advocate and carry out the removal of amalgam fillings on health grounds were hounded out of practice by the authorities who regulate the dental profession. That doesn't happen any more. Nowadays all Dr Wander has to do is quote the kind of argument that I've been promoting in this newsgroup for several years now and those same "authorities" find themselves powerless to respond. Shall I tell you why this is? It's because when it comes to the thermoelectric and electromagnetic behavior of amalgam dental fillings they're just as ignorant as you are. That's why. Keith P Walsh PS, questions regarding the electrical properties of metal amalgam dental fillings can be found at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/intro.htm And the website for Dr Philip Wander's mercury-free dental practice in Manchester, England, is at: http://www.wanderdental.co.uk/mercuryfreedentistry.html >... I have seen momentary sparks of up to one volt.. You do realize, of courxe, that outdoors the electric field strengrh is ~100 volts/meter. ref:Feynman Physic s, volume 2 > You do realize, of courxe, that outdoors the electric field strengrh > is ~100 volts/meter. Perhaps the most fundamental physical property of any material in determining how it behaves in an electromagnetic field is its electrical conductivity. However, in spite of the fact that in most countries metal amalgam fillings continue to be placed in children's teeth, it appears that there isn't anyone anywhere in the world who can tell either you or I what the electrical conductivity of a typical dental amalgam is. Now, it may be that this property is difficult to measure for a typical dental amalgam. Indeed, since dental amalgam may be accurately described as an inhomogeneous mixture of dissimilar metals (See http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/setting.htm ), then one might reasonably expect that its electrical conductivity should vary significantly from point to point within the material. Nevertheless, it still appears that there isn't anyone anywhere in the world who can tell us what the outcome of any experiment to even try to measure the electrical conductivity of a typical dental amalgam was either. And the same applies to its properties of permeability and permittivity too. I think that's odd. It means that the whole world is completely ignorant of the electromagnetic properties of dental amalgams. Perhaps ignorance and arrogance still hold sway after all. Keith P Walsh That is only amalgams of course. If other things had electricity, on what would we blame the inability to line dance? Joe -- Joel34 > That is only amalgams of course. If other things had > electricity, on what would we blame the inability to line dance? I have read dentists explaining how they are taught in dental schools that as a result of "galvanic" action a new amalgam filling quickly gains a layer of metal oxide which adheres to its exposed surface and in doing so effectively prevents any further galvanic action (or "corrosion") from taking place. Well that's fine as far as it goes. However, it appears that dental students are then simply left to presume that this explanation accounts for all of the electrical behavior of amalgam fillings. And that's ridiculous. For a start, although the layer of metal oxide may prevent any further galvanic action from taking place, this does not mean that it provides an effective layer of electrical insulation on the surface of the filling. Indeed, materials scientists are well aware that metal oxides make relatively poor electrical insulators. More significantly however, it has been known for more than 150 years that metals, mixtures of metals and dissimilar metals in contact with each other are able to generate electrical potentials as a result of their thermoelectric and electromagnetic behaviors, and that they are able to do this without becoming involved in any electrolytic (i.e."galvanic") activity at all. But it appears that even after all this time all dentists remain completely ignorant of the extent to which these electrical behaviors occur in a typical dental amalgam throughout all of their careers. Do you think that the continued belief that amalgams formed by mixing liquid mercury with grains of solid metal alloy at room temperature are suitable materials for use in restorative dentistry might actually be dependent upon the perpetuation of this ignorance? Or is there some other explanation for it? Keith P Walsh PS, further questions regarding the electrical properties of dental amalgams can be found at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/intro.htm I heard Albania has retrofitted their nuclear power plants with hug piles of amalgam and they are generating lots of electricity ...... -- Joel34 I hear it was not the "key" but Ben Franklin's amalgams that caused th spark -- Joel34 I heard that it was not the metal posts in Frankenstien's neck but hi amalgams that brought him to life -- drdolittl > I hear it was not the "key" but Ben Franklin's amalgams that caused the > spark. How you revel in your ignorance. Where's your science? If you look at: http://www.elektrotechnik.hs-magdeburg.de/Mitarbeiter/hinken/news/N6.htm - you will see a graphical representation of the thermoelectric eddy current and associated electromagnetic field which are produced whenever an element of one electrical conductor is enclosed within a dissimilar conductive material and subjected to a temperature gradient across its length (figure d is most instructive). This phenomenon is utilised in the field of non-destructive materials testing to identify the presence of inclusions or impurities in metals by detecting the influence of the thermoelectrically generated electromagnetic field outside the surface of the material using very accurate sensors. An important aspect of this phenomenon is that it appears to be reversibe - i.e. an externally applied electromagnetic field of the appropriate characteristics would have the effect of inducing the eddy current and corresponding temperature gradient in the dissimilar materials. If you now look again at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/setting.htm - you will see that a typical dental amalgam is composed of a great many elements of electrically conductive material all enclosed within a matrix of another, dissimilar, electrically conductive material. One would expect that if this material were subjected to a temperature gradient then it too should develop thermoelectric eddy currents around each of its inclusions, along with the associated electromagnetic effects which might then be detected outside the surface of the material by suitably sensitive instruments. One would also expect that the eddy currents and resulting temperature gradients would be induced in the material by an externally applied electromagnetic field with the necessary characteristics. Do you know if anyone has ever attempted to find out what the characteristics of such an electromagnetic field might be? Who am I trying to kid? Of course you don't. You're just as ignorant as everyone else. Keith P Walsh PS, questions regarding the electrical properties of metal amalgam dental fillings can be found at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/intro.htm And the website for Dr Philip Wander's mercury-free dental practice in Manchester, England, is at: http://www.wanderdental.co.uk/mercuryfreedentistry.html > > I hear it was not the "key" but Ben Franklin's amalgams that caused the > > spark. > > How you revel in your ignorance. > > Where's your science? _____________________- You listed Dr. Wander's website as a resource. Such a website is hardly useful to bolster your question of "Where's your science?" Dr. Wander states: "American holistic dentist Hal Huggins used to show slides of teeth that had been cut open to show the scorch marks they contained where electrical currents had been running for many years." What nonsense! Nobody, not even a discredited FORMER dentist like Hal Huggins, has ever been able to show "scorch marks" in teeth from electrical currents due to fillings. The temperatures required to "scorch" dentin would have been MUCH higher than that required to fry and destroy the living pulps in the same teeth. The pain would have been immediate and excruciating. Huggins lost his license for perpetrating such nonsense on a gullible public, and using him in your posting undermines your credibility. - dentaldoc > > > I hear it was not the "key" but Ben Franklin's amalgams that caused the > > > spark. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > - dentaldoc False. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.dentistry/msg/12b9cdace440a488?hl=en& > > > > I hear it was not the "key" but Ben Franklin's amalgams that caused the > > > > spark. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > > > - dentaldoc > False. ______________________ You're false. The records of the Colorado state board of dental examiners speak for themselves. - dentaldoc > > > > > I hear it was not the "key" but Ben Franklin's amalgams that caused the > > > > > spark. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > > False. I also wrote: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.dentistry/msg/12b9cdace440a488... Which shows you lied then--and you are lying---AGAIN. > ______________________ > > You're false. You have the right to be wrong--and you are. The records of the Colorado state board of dental > examiners speak for themselves. > > - dentaldoc The truth about state boards. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.dentistry/msg/0543aeedfbba92a5?hl=en& > You listed Dr. Wander's website as a resource. I cited Dr Wander as an example of a mercury-free dentist who is able to both advocate and carry out the replacement of amalgam fillings on health grounds with total impunity. It doesn't make any difference if Dr Wander has been misled by the writings of Hal Huggins as to the reasons why he is able to do this. In fact, I strongly suspect that when it comes to the thermoelectric and electromagnetic properties of metal amalgam dental fillings Hal Huggins is just as ignorant as you and the rest of the dental profession are. Have you not wondered why Dr Wander doesn't suffer the same fate as Huggins? Well I think that it's because nowadays all he has to do is quote the kind of argument which I've been promoting in this newsgroup for several years now and the authorities who regulate the dental profession are powerless to impose any kind of censure against him. Here's a test for your "science". In my last message I "listed as a resource" the findings of Hinken and Tarvin regarding the thermoelectric and electromagnetic behavior of inhomogeneous mixtures of dissimilar metals. See: http://www.elektrotechnik.hs-magdeburg.de/Mitarbeiter/hinken/news/N6.htm Do you think that these phenomena might also constitute part of the electrical behavior of the inhomogeneous mixtures of dissimilar metals that are dental amalgams? Or do you believe that dental amalgams might be exempt from laws of nature? Keith P Walsh > Have you not wondered why Dr Wander doesn't suffer the same fate as > Huggins? Not at all. Dr. Wander operates in the U.K. under a different set of laws. If he tried to operate in Colorado and claim that he was treating multiple sclerosis (as a certain ex-dentist did) he would be subject to the same legal censure as that obtained by the people of Colorado against Hal Huggins. - dentaldoc > > Have you not wondered why Dr Wander doesn't suffer the same fate as > > Huggins? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > - dentaldoc Here's the part of Wander's argument that doesn't mention Hal Huggins at all: "Nevertheless, as potentially damaging as mercury in the mouth is the electricity itself. When testing teeth for electrical effects, I have seen momentary sparks of up to one volt - enough to light a small torch or flashlight. It's worth remembering that the currents generated by amalgams are formed very close to the brain, which ordinarily operated at far lower potentials (only a few millivolts). The brain lies only a few millietres from the jaw bone, where the roots of the teeth are inserted, just on the other side of the thin cranial bone and the meninges (the three membranes enveloping the brain and spinal cord). This kind of current can cause mental dysfunction, which I often find in clinical practice." If Huggins had used this argument to justify the replacement of amalgam fillings on health grounds do you think that he would have gotten away with it too? Or do you think that the authorities in the UK are just too lenient? (Or even perhaps just too mindful of their own ignorance?). Keith P Walsh > > Have you not wondered why Dr Wander doesn't suffer the same fate as > > Huggins? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > - dentaldoc Wrong. Repost from 2002. http://www.heall.com/healingnews/oct/dental_mercury.html [no longer available. Big surprise--NOT] Criminalze dental mercury amalgams COLORADO ACTION In 1997 Governor Roy Romer has signed into law a bill to increase access of the people of the state of Colorado to mercury-free dentistry. House Bill 97-1187 was introduced by Rep. Mark Paschall with the support of Sen. Muntzebaugh to support consumers' rights to choose safe, non toxic, effective alternatives to conventional dental procedures. This dental freedom law is the FIRST OF ITS KIND to be passed in the United States. It enables patients to choose mercury-free dentistry through dentists licensed in the state. It further assures that trained and licensed dentists can continue to practice mercury-free dentistry without fear of retribution from the Colorado Board of Dental Examiners. This is a total reversal of Colorado Administrative Law Judge Nancy Connick's decision last year which in essence forbade dentists from removing mercury based on the decision to remove toxic substances from the mouth. She also forbade patients from requesting removal of mercury based on its toxicity. This law, "House Bill 97-1187", Section 1., 12-35-118, Colorado Revised Statutes, 1991 Repl. Vol., is amended by the addition of a new subsection that says: 1.7) (a) NOTHING IN THIS SECTION SHALL BE CONSTRUED TO DEPRIVE ANY DENTAL PATIENT OF THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE OR REPLACE ANY PROFESSIONALLY RECOGNIZED RESTORATIVE MATERIAL, NOR TO PERMIT DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST A DENTIST SOLELY FOR REMOVING OR PLACING ANY PROFESSIONALLY RECOGNIZED RESTORATIVE MATERIAL. Citizens for Health applauds the passage of this bill and all of the individuals who worked to bring this important issue to the attention of the state legislature. "Passage of this law demonstrates that the public's increasing interest in expanded access to dental treatment options has been heard by our elected officials," stated Susan Haeger. "In the past, conventional and alternative options in dentistry have not been evaluated by the same standards of safety and efficacy prior to adopting them as accepted standard of care. I see this important law as opening up lines of communication to the consumer about risks and benefits of all treatments, and encouraging more dentists to consider adding safe alternatives to mercury amalgams into their practices." Haeger continues in her press release that, "The use of mercury amalgam in dental fillings is a controversial issue. Individuals and organizations concerned with the potential health hazard of mercury in dental amalgams have now brought the debate to the public. Although used for over 100 years in fillings, presumably safely, mercury is a highly toxic metal that is being investigated in numerous studies as a possible cause of ailments such as multiple sclerosis and Parkinson's disease. Recent research has shown a causal link between mercury amalgams and Alzheimer's disease. (Haley and Pendergrass, 1995)." Susan Haeger is Executive Director of Citizens For Health which is an international grassroots advocacy organization committed to protecting and expanding consumer natural health choices. She may be reached in Boulder Colorado at (303) 417-0772 or by Fax at (303) 417-9378 or E-Mail: c...@ares.csd.net Jan Sorry for the repost. I forgot to add. At the time I posted this, Joel accused me of: *scare more patients* I see Joel has FINALLY seen the light about mercury amalgams. Congrads, Joel. You have come a long way baby. However, you still have a long way to go-- baby. > > > Have you not wondered why Dr Wander doesn't suffer the same fate as > > > Huggins? [quoted text clipped - 108 lines] > > Jan Hal Huggins lost his license because he was making medical diagnosis. Mainstream dentists ignore the mouth-body connection. "Tooth carpenters!" Mindless, repetitive, stagnant... The bottom line is that Huggins and mainstream dentists have a lot more in common than they would ever like to admit. They do not understand basic physics and chemistry. However, at least Huggins reached out to the scientific community, which has snowballed into major changes in the laws regarding mercury in several states and more are to come. Huggins may have broken the state board laws, but at least he created a greater good than the thoughtlessness of so many drone dentists. > > Have you not wondered why Dr Wander doesn't suffer the same fate as > > Huggins? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > - dentaldoc > Hal Huggins lost his license because he was making medical diagnosis. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Huggins may have broken the state board laws, but at least he created a > greater good than the thoughtlessness of so many drone dentists. He was a snake oil salesman. I saw his "marketing package" that my aunt, who has been "deathly ill" for the past 40 years requested. Seemed like a con game to me. T I do not know Dr. Wander but I know his wife Ms. Wander-Lust. The good doctor himself suffers from wanderlust. DEF. Very strong or irresistible impulse to trave -- Joel34 > I do not know Dr. Wander but I know his wife Ms. Wander-Lust. The original Joel always used to sign his messages "Joel M. Eichen". He may have been just as ignorant as you are, but he was never quite so puerile. Keith P Walsh PS, enquiries concerning the electrical properties of metal amalgam dental fillings can be found at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/intro.htm >PS, enquiries concerning the electrical properties of metal amalgam >dental fillings can be found at: PS, enquiries concerning the intellectual properties of mental amalgam rental fillings can be found at: http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_rr20.htm Regards, Aribert Deckers SignatureTreu & Glauben, Hinter den Kulissen eines Wirtschaftsskandals http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_treu.htm > > I do not know Dr. Wander but I know his wife Ms. Wander-Lust. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/intro.htm REPLY Whether "original," or "new, crispy" Joel M. Eichen still appreciates your mention of him! Its still flattery! Joel -- Joel34 > Whether "original," or "new, crispy" > Joel M. Eichen still appreciates your mention > of him! Its still flattery! And I appreciate your co-operation in keeping this thread top o' the list. It has been demonstrated experimentally that metal amalgam dental fillings generate electrical potentials with magnitudes of up to 350 millivolts. See: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/dutch.htm And the resting potential of he human neurological synapse is only 70 millivolts. Does anyone out there know if any experimental study have ever been carried out in order to determine whether or not it is possible to detect any difference between neurological function in the vicinity of teeth with amalgam fillings and neurological function in the vicinity of teeth without amalgam fillings? Keith P Walsh "Keith P Walsh" <keith.p.walsh@btinternet.com> wrote ......................... > Does anyone out there know if any experimental study have ever been > carried out in order to determine whether or not it is possible to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Keith P Walsh You'll just have to be patient. I've been working on this for over a year and am about halfway done. So far 3 billion people don't know if this has been investigated. I'll get back to you in about a year - about another 3.5 billion to check. carabelli > You'll just have to be patient. I've been working on this for over a year > and am about halfway done. So far 3 billion people don't know if this has > been investigated. I'll get back to you in about a year - about another 3.5 > billion to check. > > carabelli You may be aware that technologists have developed extremely sensitive instruments which are able to measure neurological function in the human body. (I think that they work by using some form of electromagnetic energy which interacts with the electrical properties of the neurological signals.) I feel certain that it must be possible to devise an experimental procedure which would demonstrate whether or not these instruments are sensitive enough to detect any difference between neurological function in the vicinity of teeth with metal amalgam fillings and neurological function in the vicinity of teeth without amalgam fillings. (Remember that amalgam fillings generate electrical potentials with magnitudes of up to 350 millivolts, whilst the resting potential of the human neurological synapse is only 70 millivolts.) However, if such an experiment had already been carried out and had shown that there is no difference, then I feel equally certain that you would already know about it. The alternatives are either that no such experiment has ever been carried out; or that it has, and the results have not been made available. Whatever the case, it appears that the view which is still generally held by the majority of the mainstream dental profession that amalgam is a suitable material for use in restorative dentistry is not based on any comprehensive scientific understanding of the electrical behavior of this material at all, but rather on the ignorance of it. And I would even suggest that the continued use of amalgam in dentistry may in fact be dependent on this ignorance. The only way that this situation will ever be resolved is if people like yourself acknowledge your own ignorance and determine that you are no longer going to accept it. But you would need to be able to think scientifically in order to do this. Keith P Walsh PS, enquiries concerning the electrical properties of dental amalgams can be found at: http://book.boot.users.btopenworld.com/intro.htm In article <2YlAg.210063$mF2.103254@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, > "Keith P Walsh" <keith.p.walsh@btinternet.com> wrote > ......................... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > carabelli One less for you to check with now ... I don't know if this has been investigated. (It requires a bit of lurking to be aware of carabelli's work in progress. Hope this helps over the course of the next year.) Be well... TW > You'll just have to be patient. I've been working on this for over a year > and am about halfway done. So far 3 billion people don't know if this has > been investigated. I'll get back to you in about a year - about another 3.5 > billion to check. > > carabelli I know I said yes before, but I was just trying to seem smart, can you change my yes to a no? Or will you have to start counting all over? If so, just leave as a yes. Thanks T >> You'll just have to be patient. I've been working on this for over a >> year [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > T Already done. Gotta run, 96 million to check with today in order to stay on schedule. carabelli So many amalgams, so little time .... -- Joel34 > > I do not know Dr. Wander but I know his wife Ms. Wander-Lust. > The original Joel always used to sign his messages "Joel M. Eichen". > > He may have been just as ignorant as you are, but he was never quite so > puerile. __________________________ That's wrong. In defense of Joel, I can state categorically that he was FREQUENTLY that puerile! It takes a lot of effort for him to write a snappy comeback for all the ridiculous stuff that a reader has to wade through on this newsgroup. Of course that would be lost on anyone without a sense of humor. - dentaldoc [image http://www.philadelphiariders.com/albums/jtucker_misc/bunny.jpeg -- Joel34 |
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