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HIT Fanatic - 05 Jul 2006 01:00 GMT
I recently went to a dentist for the first time in 2 years. This was a
recently-opened clinic and it was just a few minutes from my house so I went
there to try them out for the sake of convenience.

Now, in my entire lifetime, I've been diagnosed with a grand total of 3
cavities, two of which occurred before I was 12 and only 1 cavity in the
past 20 years. I brush, floss and mouthwash everyday.

I've been told by my new dentist that I have 14 cavities that need to be
taken care of. He even showed me pictures of my teeth where there is
discoloration, however in previous visits to other dentists, nothing was
said of this. I can see an obvious brown spot in one of my teeth (about 3/4
of one sq. millimeter) if I look inside my mouth with a flash light.

All right, this smells like a scam. It cost my dental plan $500 to get a
cleaning, x-ray and consultation with this dentist. I remember a couple of
years ago where it cost only $400 for two visits. The lady at the front desk
has an obsession to find out how much my dental plan covers, etc.

I'm a fairly open minded person who likes to constantly question the
established order of things. Because of this I've discovered low-carb eating
("Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution"), low-volume high intensity training
("Heavy Duty Part 2" article in Ironman Magazine by John Little), etc. To
get my 14 cavities taken care of will cost $1500 of which my dental plan
will be maxed out and require me to pay the rest out of pocket.

When I search the internet for "natural" ways to dental health and to cure
cavities, I get the impression that the advice given is by a bunch of
quacks. This guy recommends brushing with BAR SOAP:

http://100777.com/health/teethcare

(subsequently, I did brush my teeth with soap, it doesn't feel as bad as I
thought it would, although I would imagine one should be careful not to
swallow during that time)

I think what I'll do is schedule a check up and cleaning appointment with my
old dentist after I get 2 of my bottom wisdom teeth extracted (by a
specialist--funny thing is that this major surgery only costs $600 with him)
and cancel all of my appointments to get my alleged 14 cavities fixed. How
do I go from having barely any cavities to being on the verge of being a
toothless senior citizen who needs dentures all because I hadn't seen a
dentist in 2 years?

So, does anyone here have any advice regarding natural ways to cure
cavities?
Jan Drew - 05 Jul 2006 06:57 GMT
>I recently went to a dentist for the first time in 2 years. This was a
>recently-opened clinic and it was just a few minutes from my house so I
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> So, does anyone here have any advice regarding natural ways to cure
> cavities?

The website you posted is excellent.  I have never heard of brushing with
soap.

It covered your question.

Also too much cleaning is not good.  It damages the enamel.
Bogmyrtle - 05 Jul 2006 09:31 GMT
>I recently went to a dentist for the first time in 2 years. This was a
>recently-opened clinic and it was just a few minutes from my house so I
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> So, does anyone here have any advice regarding natural ways to cure
> cavities?

My Swedish Grandfather had 2 filling and one tooth pulled by the time he was
70 years old ... His teeth were  very white  and extreamly even ..looked
just like false teeth but they were  not .. He drank Acvavit and ate mainly
raw herring most of his life  ...Not sure what kind of toothcleaning ritual
he had but failry certain there was no flossing involved ......
Bogmyrtle
Stormin Mormon - 06 Jul 2006 04:29 GMT
I can't comment on curing cavities. But I did switch from tooth paste
to baking soda about a year ago. After about three months, I went in
for routine cleaning. Amazing clean, good color, good bone density.

And then when I told em I was using zero fluoride the hygenist and
dentist both tried to convince me to go back to the high fluoride
tooth paste they had been writing prescriptions for.

Guess I know the link. High fluoride causes high cavities and high
dental profits.

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I recently went to a dentist for the first time in 2 years. This was a
recently-opened clinic and it was just a few minutes from my house so
I went
there to try them out for the sake of convenience.

Now, in my entire lifetime, I've been diagnosed with a grand total of
3
cavities, two of which occurred before I was 12 and only 1 cavity in
the
past 20 years. I brush, floss and mouthwash everyday.

I've been told by my new dentist that I have 14 cavities that need to
be
taken care of. He even showed me pictures of my teeth where there is
discoloration, however in previous visits to other dentists, nothing
was
said of this. I can see an obvious brown spot in one of my teeth
(about 3/4
of one sq. millimeter) if I look inside my mouth with a flash light.

All right, this smells like a scam. It cost my dental plan $500 to get
a
cleaning, x-ray and consultation with this dentist. I remember a
couple of
years ago where it cost only $400 for two visits. The lady at the
front desk
has an obsession to find out how much my dental plan covers, etc.

I'm a fairly open minded person who likes to constantly question the
established order of things. Because of this I've discovered low-carb
eating
("Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution"), low-volume high intensity training
("Heavy Duty Part 2" article in Ironman Magazine by John Little), etc.
To
get my 14 cavities taken care of will cost $1500 of which my dental
plan
will be maxed out and require me to pay the rest out of pocket.

When I search the internet for "natural" ways to dental health and to
cure
cavities, I get the impression that the advice given is by a bunch of
quacks. This guy recommends brushing with BAR SOAP:

http://100777.com/health/teethcare

(subsequently, I did brush my teeth with soap, it doesn't feel as bad
as I
thought it would, although I would imagine one should be careful not
to
swallow during that time)

I think what I'll do is schedule a check up and cleaning appointment
with my
old dentist after I get 2 of my bottom wisdom teeth extracted (by a
specialist--funny thing is that this major surgery only costs $600
with him)
and cancel all of my appointments to get my alleged 14 cavities fixed.
How
do I go from having barely any cavities to being on the verge of being
a
toothless senior citizen who needs dentures all because I hadn't seen
a
dentist in 2 years?

So, does anyone here have any advice regarding natural ways to cure
cavities?
Bill - 07 Jul 2006 06:34 GMT
> All right, this smells like a scam. It cost my dental plan $500 to get a
> cleaning, x-ray and consultation with this dentist.
_____________________

Are you sure it was $500? I can't imagine any dental plan actually
paying that much for just a cleaning, consultation, and dental xrays.

No dental plan could stay in business paying that much.

What were the CDT code numbers that added up to $500? In order to bill
a dental plan, the dentist has to break down the cost by individual CDT
code numbers. What were the codes used on your bill that added up to
$500?

- dentaldoc
Joel344 - 07 Jul 2006 13:06 GMT
Hey Bill!

I agree. We are charging way too little over here!

Joe

--
Joel34
Bill - 11 Jul 2006 05:36 GMT
> Hey Bill!
>
> I agree. We are charging way too little over here!
>
> Joel

________________________

I just can't imagine that any "plan" would pay anywhere near $500. I
would like to see the actual codes that were billed to get that sort of
total.

Maybe this guy was just a troll and was making it up.

- dentaldoc
 
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