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Tooth still is very sensitive after root canal

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Jim - 24 May 2006 02:52 GMT
Hi, I posted on this back about 5 months ago but it is still bothering
me so I'm back again.

This is the history:
I had some sensitivity with #30, went in for an xray, was told I needed
a crown.

The dentist did xrays and said it was iffy as to whether I needed a
root canal or not, but it might be a good idea to get one before doing
the crown as opposed to doing it after wards, but it was my choice.

He sent me to an endo who did some tests and said he also could not be
100% sure but he was leaning towards it needing a root canal.

I went with the root canal. It was a very difficult one (on my end;
i.e; very painful, long session)(others I had before were a snap
compared to this one; this was one of those that give meaning to the
fear people feel when you utter the words "root canal"). After it was
over, I continued to feel sensitivity there. Called the endo and he
said he looked at the post-endo xray and he was sure it was fine, the
sensitivity will go away with time.

A month passes, I still feel sensitivity. Like when I tap it with my
toothbrush, it hurts, not a sharp horrible pain, but a small
uncomfortable pain. I insist on going back for him to look at it,
again. He takes another xray or two, looks at it, does some testing on
it and says it's perfect.

Meanwhile I also went to a new dentist and had this dentist look at
xrays of it. She said it looked to be a perfect root canal.

So here I am 5 months later, and this tooth STILL is very sensitive to
being hit with my toothbrush, tapped with my fingernail, spoon, fork,
etc... Granted, it's no big problem, but I keep thinking there MUST BE
SOMETHING WRONG or why would I feel something in a tooth that has no
nerve?

Am I just being a hypochondriac about this tooth? is it just normal for
a tooth to have post-root canal sensitivity for 6 months or more? (I
use sensitive toothpaste and have for a few months.)

Any advice or opinions is welcome. Thanks in advance.
Steven Bornfeld - 24 May 2006 03:15 GMT
> Hi, I posted on this back about 5 months ago but it is still bothering
> me so I'm back again.
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>
> Any advice or opinions is welcome. Thanks in advance.

    Root canals sometimes fail.  Sometimes you find out why when you
extract the tooth; sometimes you never find out.  With operating
microscopes, the incidence of missed canals is less than it was;
probably now the biggest reason for previously unexplained failure is
some occult fracture of the root system.
    My wife lost an upper first molar like this just last week--it had been
bothering her for about a year and a half since having a very pretty
root canal done by and endodontist.  Apicoectomy wasn't an option
because of proximity to the sinus.

Steve
Jim - 24 May 2006 03:23 GMT
So, when I explain my symptoms to the endo, and he says it's no
problem, there's nothing wrong, is he just b.s.'ing me, and he knows
there is some "occult fracture" or such and that the rct was a failure?
OR does he really think it is fine, that this is sometimes "normal"?

And are you  saying that the tooth may prove to be fine, even though it
hurts a little sometimes when tapped, that it MAY not have to be
extracted or gone back into? that it may just be this way the rest of
my life, or might calm down?

Or, is it just a matter of time til it has to be extracted?

Thanks for your time!
Steven Bornfeld - 24 May 2006 04:07 GMT
> So, when I explain my symptoms to the endo, and he says it's no
> problem, there's nothing wrong, is he just b.s.'ing me, and he knows
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>
> Thanks for your time!

    I honestly don't know.  Even in my wife's case, x-ray evidence showed
that a distinct dark area at the tip of the root (presumptive infected
area) progressively faded.  So there was a disconnect between x-ray
evidence and symptoms.
    Some of these teeth remain symptomatic forever without showing any
other sign of problems.  If the discomfort is slight, I sometimes retain
the tooth indefinitely.
    If there is a crack, sooner or later things deteriorate--clinically, on
the x-ray--or both.
    I would not presume B.S.--you can only see what you can see.  But while
I myself would urge you to give this more time esp. if the discomfort is
mild, your discomfort should not be discounted.  It should be monitored,
and any decisions should be based on both the clinical picture and your
own perception of just how much this is bothering you, and your
tolerance for waiting.

Steve
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 24 May 2006 06:59 GMT
On occasion this sort of thing happens. I encounter a patient like this
on average maybe once every 3 years.
Sometimes there is an unfilled canal sometimes a fracture. Sometimes
its an adjacent tooth that is giving the pain, Sometimes its the bite
either the new crown is too high or the tooth is in a traumatic bite.
Like Dr Bornfeld says time will reveal the cause. Having a root canal
look pretty on the x-ray does not mean that the problem was solved.
I believe you should wait before considering drastic unscientific and
desperate measures such as extraction because if the problem was not
the tooth you can not put it back.
Did you have a new crown placed over the root canal? If so what type
was it? you may also want to make sure you have good contacts on either
side of the crown. You can check this with floss, the crown should
floss like your other teeth. If the contact is not as tight food
impaction can irritate your gums and give you the symptoms you describe.
Steven Bornfeld - 24 May 2006 13:44 GMT
> On occasion this sort of thing happens. I encounter a patient like this
> on average maybe once every 3 years.
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> floss like your other teeth. If the contact is not as tight food
> impaction can irritate your gums and give you the symptoms you describe.

    All good points, Alex.

Steve
JimSocal - 25 May 2006 09:16 GMT
>On occasion this sort of thing happens. I encounter a patient like this
>on average maybe once every 3 years.
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>floss like your other teeth. If the contact is not as tight food
>impaction can irritate your gums and give you the symptoms you describe.
Thanks much for the info.

Figures, I'd be one of these "once in 3 years" patients. Luck with
dental work is something I seem not to have at all.

It's not the bite: there is no opposing tooth on this crown! I am in
the process of beginning to get implants but as yet there is no bite
there.

I am not considering anything drastic. I intend to live with it. I
just wondered if there was any recommended treatment or tests I should
get. I see that the recommendation is to just wait, so that is what I
will do.

I did have a new crown placed over the root canal. what type?
Porcelain, I believe. Is that what you mean? By "food impaction" you
mean, is food getting stuck in between the new crown and the old tooth
next to it? I'm not sure but that does not seem to be the case.

Before I got the new crown I had a temporary crown on there for
awhile. The temp crown bothered me more, and then after a while, it
calmed down to almost nothing. For some reason the permanent crown
bothers me more than the temp. did and is not calming down as quickly.
I wonder if it might be because there was more trauma involved in
installing the perm. crown? I mean, they screwed around with it a lot
getting it to fit right, put in on and off several times, etc...

Anyway, apparently there is really nothing I can do but wait ... and
HOPE that the sensitivity goes away and that I do not lose this tooth!
pubbievoter@yahoo.com - 27 May 2006 22:31 GMT
I have the same situation on tooth #19 where I had a root canal done on
a tooth with an existing gold crown. about 8 months ago.  It's slightly
sensitive to percussion, like tapping on it with my finger, both on the
top of the tooth and on the side.  But surprisingly, it doesn't bother
me when I eat, even something like almonds.

I know that it is not a problem with any remaining pulp because any
sensitivity to cold (which is what I had before) is completely gone.

The endo told me that what I was most likely sensing was the ligament
adjacent to the tooth

This must be a common problem because II also had the exact same thing
on #30 after an RC was done, i.e. no more cold sensitivity but
sensitive to percussion.  This tooth, though, was utlimately replaced
by an implant/crown so no more problem.

> >On occasion this sort of thing happens. I encounter a patient like this
> >on average maybe once every 3 years.
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> Anyway, apparently there is really nothing I can do but wait ... and
> HOPE that the sensitivity goes away and that I do not lose this tooth!
JimSocal - 28 May 2006 00:43 GMT
>I have the same situation on tooth #19 where I had a root canal done on
>a tooth with an existing gold crown. about 8 months ago.  It's slightly
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>sensitive to percussion.  This tooth, though, was utlimately replaced
>by an implant/crown so no more problem.

Thanks for the info. what does that mean, that I am sensing "the
ligament adjactent to the tooth"? Can anyone explain that to me, and
is this correct - or could be correct - in the opinion of the dentists
here?
DarthPollo - 31 May 2006 22:18 GMT
check the bite, it might have a premature contact or interferance? in
that case syntoms are pain, sensitivity to cold drinks and hot
drinks....the Dr needs to check the lateral movements and see if
there's no interferance

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