I had a crown put in about a month ago, and it's hurt ever since. (In
addition to the nearly constant ache, it's incredibly sensitive to
cold.) My dentist and an endodontist I consulted both suggest root
canal. I'm convinced that something about the crown is causing the
pain, so I'm resisting the idea of root canal. I'd like to explain my
reasoning, and I'm hoping for some feedback from this group.
I had a temporary crown for about a month, and it caused me no problems
whatsoever -- not only was there no pain, I often forgot that it was
there. When I went to have the permanent crown put in, the color was a
little light, so the dentist used some kind of brown cement rather than
the usual white cement, he said this would make it appear to be a
little darker. (I'll explain later why I think this might be
significant.)
The tooth ached from the moment the crown was installed. A week later,
the dentist examined it and said it was "too tall" (I think) and ground
it down. That didn't help. I went back to him a week later, he said it
wouldn't hurt (so to speak) to wait a few more weeks to see if the
nerve calmed down, but that if it didn't I'd have to have root canal.
I went to an endodontist for a second opinion, and he agreed with my
dentist. I asked him if it were possible that there might be something
wrong with the way the crown was put in, something that neither he nor
my dentist could spot. He said it was unlikely, but possible -- there
could, for example, be a problem with the cement. Which is when, of
course, I flashed on the thought that my dentist had not used his usual
cement.
I'm leaning heavily toward asking the dentist to remove the crown. I
had zero problems with the temporary crown, my problem started the
instant the permanent crown was put in. In other words, I figure that
either there's a problem with the crown or that the nerve just happened
to be damaged at the very instant the crown was put in, something I
find hard to believe.
Of course, I understand that a crown might be hard to remove. My friend
the dental assistant tells me that even a permanent crown can be
removed, but I've read that the only safe way to do it is to drill it
(which would, of course, destroy it). I'd like to go back to the
temporary crown. If it still hurts, I'll go ahead and have the root
canal. If it doesn't, my dentist can put in a permanent crown again,
this time being more careful to do it right.
What do you folks think? Does my plan make sense at all, or should I
just go ahead and have the root canal?
Bill - 13 May 2006 21:05 GMT
Is this a front tooth, or a back tooth?
It can make a difference, so that's why I ask.
-dentaldoc
Hank@WebFeats.com - 13 May 2006 22:24 GMT
It's sort of a back tooth. It's on the top left, I count the fifth
tooth over from the center. According the map at
http://dentalimplants-usa.com/Generalinfo/toothnumbering.html I think
it would be #13 -- which, according to the illustration at
http://dentalimplants-usa.com/Generalinfo/toothnames.html, would make
it a bicuspid, I think.
Bill - 15 May 2006 17:28 GMT
> It's sort of a back tooth. It's on the top left, I count the fifth
> tooth over from the center.
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Porcelain crowns can be either the all-ceramic type, or the
porcelain-fused-to-metal type. The type that has the metal substructure
is easier to cement, as a resin-modified glass ionomer cement can be
used. This common RMGI cement has a track record of fewer cases of
sensitivity after cementation than some other cements.
The catch is that RMGI is generally not used with all-ceramic crowns,
as the setting expansion can crack the ceramic. Thus it is a great
cement for the usual PFM (porcelain fused to metal) type of crown, as
the strength of the metal negates any expansion problems.
So why aren't all crowns of the PFM type? Well, the all-ceramic crowns
might look better on front teeth in many cases. On back teeth you can't
see as much, so often the PFM is used to obtain strength and to make
cementation simple for back teeth.
Since the color of the cement can't show through the hidden metal on a
PFM, the color of the cement for a PFM makes no difference. Thus when
you said that the color of the cement on your crown DID make a
difference, that led me to think that your crown was on a front tooth,
as only an all-ceramic crown would show the effects of the cement
color.
In any case, I'm guessing the usual RMGI cement probably wasn't used
for your crown, as your crown seems to be all-ceramic.
To cement an all-ceramic crown, generally an all-resin cement with a
bonding technique is used. This can be tricky as it involves more steps
to create the bonding and make the cement adhere. Any problem with the
bonding chemistry can result in sensitivity or pain after cementation.
At a recent dental conference, the lecturer mentioned that in HIS
opinion, if a crown cementation with a bonded resin cement resulted in
immediate sensitivity that wasn't there before, that continues without
abatement for two weeks, he would replace the crown with a temp, and
see whether placing a soothing temporary cement made any difference. If
the tooth got better, he would remake the crown and cement with a
different cement or technique. If the tooth didn't improve, then it's
time to consider a root canal treatment.
That's his opinion. The opinions of other dentists may agree, or
differ.
Nobody can tell over the Internet what your particular situation is. As
George has already mentioned, sometimes a tooth needs endodontic
treatment, regardless of whether a tiny filling or a large crown is
made, and regardless of what cement is used. It can be frustrating to
us all, but sometimes a tooth pulp just goes painful no matter what.
And sometimes a sensitive tooth just gets better.
Your own dentist is the best resource for guidance through the problem.
He has much better knowledge of the shape and condition of this tooth
than anyone else can have. I would advise returning to him again to
evaluate the symptoms.
Best regards,
- dentaldoc
George - 13 May 2006 22:03 GMT
I'm of the "never say never" school of thought, but you may need root
canal treatment. Symptoms like constant bad toothache, especially
during the night that is set off by cold, will usually point to
irreversible inflammation of the tooth's nerve rather than high
occlusion or bad cementing (where symptoms are usually milder).
Unfortunately, the mere act of running a cutting instrument rotating at
200-300,000 times a minute near the nerve sometimes injures and kills
it.
If you can tolerate the pain, having the crown removed and a temporary
put on couldn't hurt, just to make sure. Even if it calms down, make
sure your dentist runs some vitality tests before putting on a new
crown.
Good luck,
George
Hank@WebFeats.com - 27 May 2006 22:47 GMT
You're exactly right, my crown is all-ceramic.
And thank you SO MUCH for your detailed and thoughtful analysis of my
situation, to say that you've been helpful is a MASSIVE understatement.
> In any case, I'm guessing the usual RMGI cement probably wasn't used
> for your crown, as your crown seems to be all-ceramic.
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> to create the bonding and make the cement adhere. Any problem with the
> bonding chemistry can result in sensitivity or pain after cementation.
vsprunt@earthlink.net - 02 Jun 2006 04:47 GMT
> I had a crown put in about a month ago, and it's hurt ever since. (In
> addition to the nearly constant ache, it's incredibly sensitive to
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> What do you folks think? Does my plan make sense at all, or should I
> just go ahead and have the root canal?