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asdf - 09 May 2006 23:21 GMT
how much do the board scores weight into getting into a wanted
residency ?

the reason i ask is for a friend who is going to a school - but withen
the school
there is a lot of cheating on exams.  basically there are a lot of A's
that are
not true A's b/c of exam cheating.  will these marks weigh or will the
boards
be the biggest decision maker ?
Steven Bornfeld - 10 May 2006 03:01 GMT
> how much do the board scores weight into getting into a wanted
> residency ?
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> boards
> be the biggest decision maker ?

    A meaningful answer isn't easy.  This probably varies over time, and
from hospital program to hospital program.  You also dont say if this is
a GPR or a specialty program.
    In my day (30 years ago, so take with 5 lb. epsom salts), the grades
were largely clinical, so cheating on exams couldn't have been much of a
factor.  Also, back then there were many applicants for every residency
place--the competition was fierce.  In the case of some programs, it was
said that nepotism was the primary factor, and some of us got pretty
cynical.  But in most programs, they were looking for the entire
package.  If cheating is rampant (a pretty sad thought) it is likely
news of this has reached the residency programs and the affected grades
may be discounted.  The interview should not be underestimated either.
    Most of us applied to maybe 20-30 programs.  I went to maybe 10
interviews, and got my GPR.  I didn't feel I could afford to be fussy,
but I think my program was tough and rigorous.  At least for GPR, I
wouldn't get hung up on one--flexibility is important.

Steve
Bill - 10 May 2006 16:52 GMT
> how much do the board scores weight into getting into a wanted
> residency ?
________________________

"asdf" -- a cute handle, obviously obtained by running a finger along
the row of keys on the left of the keyboard.

It reminds me of the old signature, "etaoin shrdlu."

Perhaps that dates me, but does anyone else remember the origin of
"etaoin?" I can remember because when I took print shop in junior high,
we often signed off the daily projects with that byline. The teacher
didn't appreciate it.  :-)

- dentaldoc
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 10 May 2006 17:01 GMT
>>how much do the board scores weight into getting into a wanted
>>residency ?
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>
> - dentaldoc

    No.  Were any regulated substances involved?

Steve

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Bill - 12 May 2006 19:37 GMT
Bill wrote:
> asdf wrote:

>>how much do the board scores weight into getting into a wanted
>>residency ?

> ________________________

> "asdf" -- a cute handle, obviously obtained by running a finger along
> the row of keys on the left of the keyboard.

> It reminds me of the old signature, "etaoin shrdlu."

> Perhaps that dates me, but does anyone else remember the origin of
> "etaoin?" I can remember because when I took print shop in junior high,
> we often signed off the daily projects with that byline. The teacher
> didn't appreciate it.  :-)

> - dentaldoc
_______________________________

       No.  Were any regulated substances involved?

Steve
_______________________________

Nope, no regulated substances! (Unless you consider the lead and
antimony alloys in cast type as regulated substances.)

Before the advent of computers, newspapers and print shops used to use
a machine called a Linotype. It resembled a typewriter in that it had
old-fashioned manual keys to hit on a keyboard, but there the
resemblance ends.

Hitting a key on the Linotype caused a tiny mold of that letter to drop
into a slot which held it in place. The size of the mold was exactly
the size of the letter to be printed.

Hitting subsequent keys would cause those additional letters' molds to
drop into line after the first mold. The net result after a line of
typing was a line of molds of all the individual letters that had been
typed -- spelling out exactly what had been typed.

When the line was full, the operator would pull a lever which caused
the entire line of tiny molds to be filled with molten typesetting
metal. The metal cooled into one piece, forming a full line of type --
thus the name, Linotype.

Instead of a printer setting type one letter at a time, the way Ben
Franklin had to do it, an operator of this ingenious machine could
obtain a one-piece mold of an entire LINE of type just by typing on the
keyboard.

It was much faster for the printing industry to assemble entire lines
of type instead of handsetting one letter at a time. For most of the
twentieth century, newspapers were printed with type from Linotype
machines. It was the only way to set type quickly and efficiently.

Now for the origin of "etaoin shrdlu."

Unlike the usual layout of typewriters, often known as "qwerty"
keyboards, the Linotype keyboard was laid out according to the
frequency with which letters appear in the English language. In order,
that is e-t-a-o-i-n-s-h-r-d-l-u. If I can remember correctly after so
many years, the "etaoin" was in one column, and the "shrdlu" was in the
next.

So if you just ran your finger down the first two columns of keys, the
Linotype machine would set "etaoin" and then "shrdlu" in the blink of
an eye. In junior high, that was way cool -- just go zip, zip! and you
had a line of genuine, finished metal type in a jiffy. Put it in a
printing press and it read, "etaoin shrdlu."

Webby sent me a link that mentioned that when typesetters (Linotype
machine operators) made a typing mistake, it was faster to finish that
line of type and throw it away, then type the correct line.

But discarding a partial line required hitting the "pour-molten-metal"
lever, and if the line was short, the extra molten metal would splash
on the operator! So if a typing mistake was made, the operator learned
to fill out the line with nonsense before discarding it, so he wouldn't
be burned.

The easiest way to fill out the line was by running a finger along the
keys. That would produce the letters "etaoin shrdlu."

Sometimes these "discarded' lines of type were accidentally left in the
newspaper story and printed on the press, thus puzzling the readers of
the day with news articles interspersed with the message, "etaoin
shrdlu, etaoin shrdlu."

And to think that back in the fifties, I had thought it was just due to
fun and games for curious junior-high kids! Those big industrial
Linotype machines were irresistable toys, when the teacher wasn't
looking.  ;-)

- dentaldoc
 
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