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Is Aim Toothpaste Bad?

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noname - 06 May 2006 18:19 GMT
I bought some Aim toothpaste today because it was cheap. After I got
home, I noticed that it does not have the AMA logo on it. It does have
.24% fluoride. The first ingredient is Sorbitol.

Should I be using another toothpaste instead?

Thanks

Terry
noname - 07 May 2006 00:47 GMT
I should specify, this is Aim "Multi-Benefit" gel toothpaste. It claims
to be "Tartar Control, Plus Mouthwash and Whitening".

Terry

> I bought some Aim toothpaste today because it was cheap. After I got
> home, I noticed that it does not have the AMA logo on it. It does have
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>
> Terry
noname - 07 May 2006 01:19 GMT
Oh, and I meant to say ADA (not AMA).

> I should specify, this is Aim "Multi-Benefit" gel toothpaste. It claims
> to be "Tartar Control, Plus Mouthwash and Whitening".
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> >
> > Terry
ckouza@eudoramail.com - 07 May 2006 06:15 GMT
CoinciDentally, I bought the same toothpaste yesterday at WalMart ...
for like 88 cents or something. It's the cheapest "tartar control"
toothpaste I've seen.

I'm looking at the box now ... zinc citrate trihydrate is the tartar
control ingredient. There are different tartar control ingredients in
different toothpastes ... I don't know how they work and I don't know
of any comparative benefits/liabilities between them. (I get the sense,
though, that the tartar control action of Colgate Total is
fundamentally different than the others.)

According to the box, it's distributed by Church & Dwight Co., which
also distributes Arm & Hammer, Pepsodent, and maybe Ultrabright
(www.cas.astate.edu/draganjac/ UltrabrightToothpaste1.html).

I don't know where Aim falls on the spectrum of abrasiveness. (Silica
is the third ingredient, after water.)

I can't describe the taste ... I think it's all that sorbitol that hits
you after about 2 seconds with an extreme cloying sensation. It's OK.
This is one of about 5-6 toothpastes that I randomly use ... I like to
diversify.

I'm not sure what the public health message is on tartar control pastes
... I'm guessing they're preferred over regular pastes (i.e.
fluoride-only).

Disclaimer: I'm not a dentist.
ckouza@eudoramail.com - 07 May 2006 06:19 GMT
That link is:

http://www.cas.astate.edu/draganjac/UltrabrightToothpaste1.html
ckouza@eudoramail.com - 17 May 2006 03:57 GMT
I was in Walmart again the other day ... Ultrabright is distributed by
Colgate Palmolive. Companies like Colgate, P & G, and others are little
more than marketing firms. Everything is manufactured in independent
factories, here and abroad (i.e. Asia). It's often the case that an
independent factory/lab has contracts with various branding companies.

Here's a question for the docs: Do you think fluoride will ever be
replaced by new remineralization technologies?
Steven Bornfeld - 17 May 2006 13:53 GMT
> I was in Walmart again the other day ... Ultrabright is distributed by
> Colgate Palmolive. Companies like Colgate, P & G, and others are little
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> Here's a question for the docs: Do you think fluoride will ever be
> replaced by new remineralization technologies?

    Of course this was what the Enamelon people were trying to do.  I can't
say that it didn't work, but when something sounds too good to be true
if generally is.
    It is probably also a more efficient approach to try to minimize
demineralization in the first place rather than trying to
remineralize--esp. in an environment like the mouth where so many things
are going on at the same time.  Demonstrating remineralization in a test
tube is one thing, but...

Steve
Stormin Mormon - 08 May 2006 02:12 GMT
Baking soda.... and rinse twice before swollowing.

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Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
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I should specify, this is Aim "Multi-Benefit" gel toothpaste. It
claims
to be "Tartar Control, Plus Mouthwash and Whitening".

Terry

In article <noone-7AEA04.12195406052006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,

> I bought some Aim toothpaste today because it was cheap. After I got
> home, I noticed that it does not have the AMA logo on it. It does have
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Terry
Joel344 - 07 May 2006 15:08 GMT
It is not bad ... what are you AIMming for anyway

--
Joel34
Stormin Mormon - 08 May 2006 02:12 GMT
I switched to baking soda, about a year ago. Went in for my last
checkup. The hygenist raved about good color, nice and clean, good
bone density. When she and the dentist found out I'd switched to
baking soda (no fluoride!) they tried to get me to switch back to the
high fluoride Rx. Of course, I'd had a whole bunch of cavities while
brushing with high fluoride.

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Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

I bought some Aim toothpaste today because it was cheap. After I got
home, I noticed that it does not have the AMA logo on it. It does have
.24% fluoride. The first ingredient is Sorbitol.

Should I be using another toothpaste instead?

Thanks

Terry
noname - 08 May 2006 04:39 GMT
Interesting. Are there any studies that suggest switching to baking soda
is a good idea?

> I switched to baking soda, about a year ago. Went in for my last
> checkup. The hygenist raved about good color, nice and clean, good
> bone density. When she and the dentist found out I'd switched to
> baking soda (no fluoride!) they tried to get me to switch back to the
> high fluoride Rx. Of course, I'd had a whole bunch of cavities while
> brushing with high fluoride.
Stormin Mormon - 08 May 2006 21:14 GMT
  http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-deception.htm

I don't know about any studies. There may have, but I just don't know.
This was the web page that got me thinking. I know folks have used
baking soda for tooth brushing, and I decided to try it.

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Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

Interesting. Are there any studies that suggest switching to baking
soda
is a good idea?

In article <SVw7g.6158$Gg.3379@twister.nyroc.rr.com>,
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-#spamblock*-@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I switched to baking soda, about a year ago. Went in for my last
> checkup. The hygenist raved about good color, nice and clean, good
> bone density. When she and the dentist found out I'd switched to
> baking soda (no fluoride!) they tried to get me to switch back to the
> high fluoride Rx. Of course, I'd had a whole bunch of cavities while
> brushing with high fluoride.
ckouza@eudoramail.com - 09 May 2006 04:02 GMT
> http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-deception.htm

This looks like an interesting book. It should be balanced by a reading
of ADA's Fluoridation Facts, this article*, and some of the epic
arguments on boards or newsgroups like this one. (And maybe also a book
on the science, art, craft, etc... of public health.)

* http://www.junkscience.com/apr00/fluoride.htm

I, for one, have not read any of that stuff. I plan too, though ...
someday.

Do you have any problems with your teeth/gums that would warrant a
change in your oral hygiene routine? If not, maybe the best layman's
advice I can give is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Stormin Mormon - 13 May 2006 21:16 GMT
Yes, I have whitening (to the point of looking bleached). And I have
at least one cavity every time I go to the dentist.

After switching to baking soda, several improvements. Which I've
already written on this board.

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Christopher A. Young
 You can't shout down a troll.
 You have to starve them.
.

> http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-deception.htm

This looks like an interesting book. It should be balanced by a
reading
of ADA's Fluoridation Facts, this article*, and some of the epic
arguments on boards or newsgroups like this one. (And maybe also a
book
on the science, art, craft, etc... of public health.)

* http://www.junkscience.com/apr00/fluoride.htm

I, for one, have not read any of that stuff. I plan too, though ...
someday.

Do you have any problems with your teeth/gums that would warrant a
change in your oral hygiene routine? If not, maybe the best layman's
advice I can give is "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Bill - 15 May 2006 17:42 GMT
Interesting. Are there any studies that suggest switching to baking
soda
is a good idea?
___________________________

Baking soda doesn't have the fluoride necessary to build up fluoride
resistance to future decay.

Aim has the fluoride.
- dentaldoc
noname - 16 May 2006 18:24 GMT
> Interesting. Are there any studies that suggest switching to baking
> soda
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> Aim has the fluoride.
> - dentaldoc

So you think Aim is okay? The ADA doesn't think it's okay. Why doesn't
it carry the ADA seal?
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 16 May 2006 18:25 GMT
>>Interesting. Are there any studies that suggest switching to baking
>>soda
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> So you think Aim is okay? The ADA doesn't think it's okay. Why doesn't
> it carry the ADA seal?

    Don't push our cynical buttons.

Steve

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