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Food for Thought

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Tony Bad - 19 Apr 2006 01:04 GMT
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5349333
Clinton - 19 Apr 2006 01:59 GMT
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5349333

Interesting that the Hg levels in the blood of the amalgam group
was higher, why wasn't that the headline?

Besides some obvious flaws in study, done by a pro-amalgam group,
others not published by the NiDCR, small sample size, using inaccurate
blood and urine testing rather than salivary etc, lets admit that
obviously
most children and adults aren't dropping dead from amalgam.

however funny you should say "food for thought". I guess if I did a
study
on Children who ate more fast food for seven years and found no
evidence
of heart disease, I could conclude that eating fast food for the rest
of
your life is healthy!
Tony Bad - 19 Apr 2006 13:27 GMT
> however funny you should say "food for thought". I guess if I did a
> study
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> of
> your life is healthy!

The studies made no such leap regarding "the rest of your life"...that is
YOUR spin.

What the researcher said was..."During the period when the children are
growing and developing, we didn't see any effect," DeRouen said. "This is
the only objective evidence we have at this point.. Everything else is
anecdotal."

That seems pretty clear to me.

T
Clinton - 19 Apr 2006 21:01 GMT
> The studies made no such leap regarding "the rest of your life"...that is
> YOUR spin.
>
> What the researcher said was..."During the period when the children are
> growing and developing, we didn't see any effect," DeRouen said.

REally, I"M the one spinning? What the abstract actually said was

"Assignment to the amalgam group was associated with a significantly
higher mean urinary mercury level "

"The difference in treatment group change scores was 1.0 (95%
confidence interval, -0.6 to 2.5) full-scale IQ score point. .

Conclusions  In this study, there were no statistically significant
differences in adverse neuropsychological or renal effects observed
over the 5-year period"

So the fact that the study was too small and too brief to measure long
term of
effects of Hg and the fact that there was a "statistcally insignifcant"
change
in IQ in the amalgam group gets converted by the media to "we didn't
see any effect".

Furthermore they stated:

"Although it is possible that very small IQ effects cannot be ruled
out",

Remember,  on average, in the 5 year interval the kids would have
fillings placed for what only 2.5  years?  with no significant decay
(to methylate
the Hg) and the fillings would probably be placed ideally and not
significantly corrode in 2 years? Lets see... a "statistically
insignificant" IQ loss of 1 point every 2 years..by the time they are
40 they'll have alzhiemers!!! This is the buffonery of small studies,
short time intervals and statistics spin, see my version of what the
media could have written in the subject line!
Tony Bad - 19 Apr 2006 21:18 GMT
> This is the buffonery of small studies,
> short time intervals and statistics spin, see my version of what the
> media could have written in the subject line!

Today's dose of irony brought to you by...

Thanks for the chuckle.

T
Jorge Bonilla - 19 Apr 2006 23:25 GMT
I'm 47, and don't have Alzheimers. I've had fillings for almost 40
years, so according to what you say I've lost 20 IQ points. Maybe even
more, since I have quite a few fillings. My Dad is 78 years old and has
had fillings since he was a kid. He doesn't have Alzheimers either.
He's pretty smart and I bet he has a better than average IQ. Maybe he
was a genious when he was a kid.

Jorge Bonilla DMD
 
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