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DAVIS - 17 Apr 2006 05:54 GMT
I am looking into getting dentures, can anyone tell me what the difference
is between D.D.S.  an  D.M.D  doctor?

Laura
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 17 Apr 2006 08:04 GMT
The University that issued the degree.
Most east coast schools tend to be DMD and most West Coast tend to be
DDS. Notice I said most there are exceptions.
Glad - 17 Apr 2006 21:04 GMT
> The University that issued the degree.
> Most east coast schools tend to be DMD and most West Coast tend to be
> DDS.

You know how optometrists are essentially the less-talented counterparts
to ophthalmologists?  I always figured it was the same way with DMD vs
DDS.
Bill - 19 Apr 2006 21:44 GMT
> > The University that issued the degree.
> > Most east coast schools tend to be DMD and most West Coast tend to be
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> to ophthalmologists?  I always figured it was the same way with DMD vs
> DDS.
____________________________

No, it's not the same as the eye doctor situation.

The DDS and the DMD degrees are equivalent, if they are from dental
schools in the USA. No difference.

- dentaldoc
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 22 Apr 2006 07:24 GMT
Not just USA
DDS=DMD
Glad - 23 Apr 2006 03:47 GMT
> Not just USA
> DDS=DMD

From Wikipedia: "In the past, the difference consisted of having a DMD
train for a brief period with general medical students, while a DDS
studied in a more surgery-focused program that continued during the
summers of the four year graduate degree. These extra surgical
clerkships equated to a six year clinic program. Thus DDS graduates
could confidently practice oral and maxillofacial surgery at a specialty
level until 1997 when the American Dental Association House of Delegates
revised the definitions of specialties; at this time the two degrees
were deemed equal."

So prior to 1997, DMD < DDS.  From 1997 onward, DMD == DDS.

(So if you go to a dentist with a DMD, ask what year he graduated.)
Alexander Vasserman DDS - 23 Apr 2006 06:59 GMT
Glad

I graduated in 1994 I have a DDS degree. We spent 2 years of the
program studying Anatomy Physiology Histology Pathology (full body and
head and neck) Biochemistry, Oral Radiology, etc... We studied in
trimesters just as the DMD's.
We had oral surgery rotations at a local county hospital, some of my
classmates specialized in Oral Maxillofacial surgery they either went
straight into the OMFS 4 year program or did the 6 year program 2 years
medical school and 4 years OMFS. How can you say that I can perform
"all" of the OMFS procedures with confidence? I can not nor will I
attempt to do a Le Fort or Orthognathic surgery or removal of large
cancerious lesions. Although DDS and a DMD and believe it or not an MD
can legally do anything an OMFS can they usually do not because of
comfort and willingness to perform such high risk procedures.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 23 Apr 2006 20:04 GMT
>>Not just USA
>>DDS=DMD
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> (So if you go to a dentist with a DMD, ask what year he graduated.)

    This Wilkipedia entry is not correct.  The two degrees are equivalent,
and prepare a student equally for national, regional, and state
licensing boards.  Neither degree has any implications for
specialization; a graduate of a school granting either degree will have
to go through a board-qualifying specialty program in order to
specialize.  IOW, undergraduate dental education does NOT qualify you to
be any kind of specialist.
    Incidentally, Wikipedia overall must be taken with a 2-ton grain of
salt, based on some of the stuff I've seen there.

Steve

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Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Glad - 24 Apr 2006 19:20 GMT
> >>Not just USA
> >>DDS=DMD
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>     Incidentally, Wikipedia overall must be taken with a 2-ton grain of
> salt, based on some of the stuff I've seen there.

LOL.  As if Usenet postings are any more credible than Wikipedia.

Personally, I'm usually more inclined to believe a Wikipedia entry than
a Usenet article.  Not always, but usually.  (It depends on what
references, if any, the Usenet article cites.  I notice that yours does
not cite any at all.)
carabelli - 24 Apr 2006 19:35 GMT
>> >>Not just USA
>> >>DDS=DMD
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> references, if any, the Usenet article cites.  I notice that yours does
> not cite any at all.)

Well, since he has been practicing dentistry for almost 30 years I would be
inclined to take his word for it.

And from the ADA site - another questionable source according to some...

http://www.ada.org/public/manage/you/faq.asp

carabelli
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 24 Apr 2006 19:51 GMT
>>>>Not just USA
>>>>DDS=DMD
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Personally, I'm usually more inclined to believe a Wikipedia entry than
> a Usenet article.  Not always, but usually.

    If this is an either/or, we're all in trouble.
The authoritative source would be the boards of the individual
specialties, or the state dental practice acts.  They are easy enough to
contact if you wish.

Steve

  (It depends on what
> references, if any, the Usenet article cites.  I notice that yours does
> not cite any at all.)

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Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Joel344 - 22 Apr 2006 13:13 GMT
Glad Wrote:
> > The University that issued the degree.
> > Most east coast schools tend to be DMD and most West Coast tend t
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> to ophthalmologists?  I always figured it was the same way with DMD vs
> DDS.

R E P L Y

Actually you are right Glad.

The DDSs are much better than the DMDs.

Sincerely,

Joel M. Eichen, D.D.S

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Joel34
Newbie - 24 Apr 2006 06:00 GMT
>> The University that issued the degree.
>> Most east coast schools tend to be DMD and most West Coast tend to be
>> DDS.

Untrue.
AV is from Kaanaadaa, and practices in Kaliforication.
There are a few  US dental  schools that issue a DMD.
Most US dentists are DDS [Doctor of Dental Surgery]

>You know how optometrists are essentially the less-talented counterparts
>to ophthalmologists?  I always figured it was the same way with DMD vs
>DDS.

Again, your assumptions are completely erroneous.
An "Opthomalogist" is an MD (medical doctor)...
... in other words, a physician.
Diagnosis, Surgery, and Prescription. [Rx]

An "Optometrist"  just makes glasses.
IOWs, fills the Rx.
It's like the difference between going to your family doctor for
whatever, and getting your prescription filled at the pharmacy.

It has NOTHING to do with 'talent', and everything to
do with *education*.
lousytshirt@yahoo.com - 24 Apr 2006 18:59 GMT
>>An "Optometrist"  just makes glasses.

You are thinking of opticians - they make and fit glasses. Optometrists
have a 4 year professional doctorate, Doctor of Optometry (OD). They
examine eyes for visual acuity-they refract and write prescriptions for
glasses and contacts- and signs of disease. In most, if not all states
they can prescribe topical medications( and maybe some oral) to treat
eye diseases. If it is beyond the scope of their training, they refer
to opthalmologists. Sometimes they work with MDs - mine does. You could
think of them as primary care eye physicians.

>From the American Optometric site :
http://www.aoa.org/x792.xml
Glad - 24 Apr 2006 19:13 GMT
> An "Opthomalogist" is an MD (medical doctor)...
> ... in other words, a physician.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> It's like the difference between going to your family doctor for
> whatever, and getting your prescription filled at the pharmacy.

An optometrist is a doctor (Doctor of Optometry) who measures
eyes/vision and writes prescriptions for corrective lenses and stuff.  
Technicians in a small laboratory create the lenses and fit them to a
frame.  (The lab is often right in back of a store that sells frames,
for obvious reasons.)

If you're going to post a "correction" then please make sure you know a
little bit about the subject first, m'kay sweetpea?  Remember, you can
always fake intelligence by Googling for the knowledge that you lack.
Tony Bad - 24 Apr 2006 20:08 GMT
> If you're going to post a "correction" then please make sure you know a
> little bit about the subject first, m'kay sweetpea?  Remember, you can
> always fake intelligence by Googling for the knowledge that you lack.

Funny...your lack of knowledge hasn't seemed to keep you from posting. Hell,
you aren't even good at faking it!

Please see your prior posts as a reference that proves my point.

T
Glad - 24 Apr 2006 21:34 GMT
Some idiot called "Tony Bad" decided to demonstrate his immature
trolling skills by posting this crap:

> > An optometrist is a doctor (Doctor of Optometry) who measures
> > eyes/vision and writes prescriptions for corrective lenses and stuff.  
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Funny...your lack of knowledge hasn't seemed to keep you from posting. Hell,
> you aren't even good at faking it!

Exactly which part of my description is incorrect, and why?

Please don't hesitate to cite credible references that prove your
assertions.

TIA
drdolittle - 17 Apr 2006 21:16 GMT
DAVIS Wrote:
> I am looking into getting dentures, can anyone tell me what the
> difference
> is between D.D.S. an D.M.D doctor?
>
> Laura

Nothing.  They have the same education.

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drdolittle

David H. Wilhite - 18 Apr 2006 23:41 GMT
Nothing.

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David H. Wilhite, DDS, MAGD
5936 W. Parker Rd.
Suite 1000
Plano, Tx 75093
972-964-3774
www.davidwilhitedds.com

>I am looking into getting dentures, can anyone tell me what the difference
>is between D.D.S.  an  D.M.D  doctor?
>
> Laura
Joel344 - 25 Apr 2006 04:11 GMT
DDSs rule

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Joel34
 
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